Question about the disease - does it only last for 6 days like the timer implies? Is the quest still available afterwards?

I have a vampire based guild. Want to be a vampire - don't want to pay for it? Try looking up one of the several guilds based around being a WW or a Vamp...

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agreed. I find a lot of things that they didn't put very much thought into. Guild bank (well, most guild features tbh), a sever lack of information (I get wanting immersion, but this is ridiculous....), and this. The further I get into the game, the more I see that wasn't thought out.

There is no exploit.

The game actually reflects a "realism" fantasy environment. If ESO was "real" some people would want to be vamps/wolves and some would want to kill them.

The dynamic IMO makes the game that much more fun.

It would be far less fun if all you had to do to be a vamp/WW would be to talk to an NPC and POOF.

Anyone can find NPCs on their own. They spawn randomly all over and no "hunter group" could camp every single random spot they spawn (especially considering that even the 3 rare spawn zones can be instanced so you can switch between them anyway).

Stop asking for the everything you want to be handed to you on a freaking platter with no effort or work or skill put in.

I have been a Werewolf and a Vamp now and its entirely possible to get.

If people spent less time talking in Zone chat and whining about things and more time just immersed in the game to play it they would have no problem getting Vamp or Wolf. Ooooh maybe you might have to wait a few more hours. Big deal.

There are some people experiencing serious technical issues with the game at the moment and the developers should 100% be focused on fixing the few technical issues instead of listening this incredibly tired and predictable debate.

if you want Vamp or WW, go get it. Its not that hard. Stop reporting people. Every single night single there have been spawns I have found at least one spawn before anyone else got there and I wasn't even trying for more than 10 minutes. Plus there are already plenty of Vamp/WW guilds that give out bites to members. Just focus instead of complaining and let the Devs fix the serious issues.

The game is amazing with a few serious bugs for some people. those bugs getting fixed are far more important than someone upset because they cant be a Vamp or WW *right this very instant*.
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Stop being entitled.

Start being immersed and playing.


EDIT:

As a side note both Vampire and Werewolf skill lines have a few technical bugs to their skills. Those can be found on other threads but its important that developers actually fix the bugs first and people need to stop whining because the game is somewhat challenging.

Anyone that lived through the launch of the MMO Vanguard should know this...

ThreeEyedCrow wrote: »

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I don't think anyone is asking for it to be easy (I actually want it to be hard). They just want it to not be designed for such easy griefing. I've had guildies that wanted to become a WW and a Vamp, just like you, but every time they try, there are several players there who openly admit to being there just to stop others from getting it.

jpsgamingb14_ESO wrote: »

Varivox9 wrote: »

ThreeEyedCrow wrote: »

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I don't think anyone is asking for it to be easy (I actually want it to be hard). They just want it to not be designed for such easy griefing. I've had guildies that wanted to become a WW and a Vamp, just like you, but every time they try, there are several players there who openly admit to being there just to stop others from getting it.

Just start reporting them. Thats what most people I know are doing...and I will to once I get there to that level as I want to try out the werewolf.

They do, but every time they go to get bitten, there's more people there to do it. It's obviously not simple enough to just report people and call it fixed. I've said it before multiple times, Zenimax didn't think a lot of their designs through, and this is a clear example of a feature that seems almost purposefully designed to promote greifing. It's sad too, because I really love this game, but they made it very hard to do so.

my simple fix, let all zones that spawn warewolves+vampires allow for the sickness to be contracted... in all previous ES games it was pretty easy to get vamperism at least, and its pretty easy to find warewolves starting in the lvl 15-25 zones... this would greatly increase the number of places you can go, making it that much harder for a group of players to exploit others simply by going after and trying to monoloplize something that should be optional to all.

personally, too many of my characters are of a type that they would Reject both vamp,WW.

as for the "Roleplaying" arguements... atm its little more than an excuse to scam in my eyes.... any anyone legitly doing this playstyle.... realize that this is a MMO, there are other people besides you... A lot more people besides you... so you *** enough people off, you will be the one to suffer as a result. consider the fact that those players cant murder you on the spot your one and only saving grace... because there would undoubtly be people who would RP that all day just to *** other players off..

either way, there does need to be some way to give those who want the option a way to do so without worry of troll/scamming. you simply cannot expect a MMO community to not attempt to make things harder on other players... there simply are too many jackasses in the world.

honestly, tehres already a quest attached after contracting the disease that needs a decent level to complete, let the disease be contracted from any instance of the beasts, or make them spawn literally "server wide" on a full moon. / whenever the vampires appear.

Paske wrote: »

Its an MMO.

People found a way to monetize a nieche.

Its not a problem, its brilliant !
You want to be better then them ? Camp the NPCs your self, get biten, do the same for profit.

Putting some effort into a goal makes that goal worth while.

No one is "stealing from you". They are simply better at this game then you

Fact that we have all payed for the game doesn't mean you can simply log in, get stuff, because you paid and are entitled to get whatever you want.

Harassment is harassment.

Being an a$$hole is not being 'better at this game', it's simply being an a$$hole.

Lord knows how long it will take Zenimax to get to it, but when they finally do those players will be reprimanded - possibly suspended - and rightly so.

stop crying plz, no one will ever kill all the vamps/ww ingame, if you want the infection, search the npcs, they are all the way from the rift trough coldharbour, even in cyrodill. And if you want it so badly, pay for it.

What a lame QQ post.

ThreeEyedCrow wrote: »

Varivox9 wrote: »

ThreeEyedCrow wrote: »

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I don't think anyone is asking for it to be easy (I actually want it to be hard). They just want it to not be designed for such easy griefing. I've had guildies that wanted to become a WW and a Vamp, just like you, but every time they try, there are several players there who openly admit to being there just to stop others from getting it.

What level are they?

No offense but if they aren't even around 36 or above they shouldn't even be worrying about it. A lot of people that complain in chat are level 25 or below which is 10 levels or so below when they are even the level intended to complete the quest. Yes, I know the Vamp quest is easier and can be completed at lower levels but still its in the 35-40 zones and not even intended for players of the level that a lot *want* to get it at.

They started at level 30ish (when they got to the zone in their questing) and now 2 of them are vet rank 3(?) now. They can't contract anything because everything spawns and dies immediately.

I want as many people to become vampires and werewolves as possible. They're SO easy to kill in PvP.

snowmaan1234 wrote: »

there is nothing wrong with selling a bite in game. for in game money. its like buying an item. giving away a bite for free is like giving away items..

second killing the spawn of WW or vamp isn't wrong and technically not camping. I mean I could say you are camping the spawn as well . but for a bite. since most accounts seem to stand there for hours waiting. my self I have just been ridding by and will aoe the spawn for the fact that people are waiting.
the first time I did it I thought players where waiting for a boss, like all the accounts I report in the dungeons, using auto attack. if you soo want a bite, go to the vr zone spawn of it.. I doubt the vr guys are camping that spawn.

I think there is a difference between camping a spawn and camping a spawn to grief other players. It's not wrong to camp the area, until you do it just to ruin everyone's time. I don't have an issue with selling a bite either, but there is no way to protect either the biter or the bite-e since you can't open a trade link.

Johnny_NO_skillz wrote: »

Hello guys - wanted to drop a line at ya real quick about some despicable shiz I just heard.

Apparently there are guilds forming now, that will camp Werewolf/Vampire spawn sites, killing off the beasts ONLY to prevent other players from getting bit.

They keep the mobs for themselves so when a player wants to become one, they can EXPLOIT the player for inordinate amounts of money. I've seen bites sell for 20k all the way up to 40k... there is even talk of these guilds using paypal accounts for people to pay them.

DON'T DO THIS - THEY WILL SCAM YOU
I REPEAT IT IS A SCAM

Selling bites is NOT ILLEGAL in the game, but there is no system to ensure you will be bitten.

ZENIMAX - Stop these low-life griefers - I am NOT paying $15 a month to pay a scammer in game to exploit a skill tree that should be open FOR ALL PLAYERS.

Any thoughts?

WOW, this is not good! But then this leads to another question! Does becoming a werewolf or vampire make your character overpowered? IS it really that good?

GreatPlayer wrote: »

Johnny_NO_skillz wrote: »

Hello guys - wanted to drop a line at ya real quick about some despicable shiz I just heard.

Apparently there are guilds forming now, that will camp Werewolf/Vampire spawn sites, killing off the beasts ONLY to prevent other players from getting bit.

They keep the mobs for themselves so when a player wants to become one, they can EXPLOIT the player for inordinate amounts of money. I've seen bites sell for 20k all the way up to 40k... there is even talk of these guilds using paypal accounts for people to pay them.

DON'T DO THIS - THEY WILL SCAM YOU
I REPEAT IT IS A SCAM

Selling bites is NOT ILLEGAL in the game, but there is no system to ensure you will be bitten.

ZENIMAX - Stop these low-life griefers - I am NOT paying $15 a month to pay a scammer in game to exploit a skill tree that should be open FOR ALL PLAYERS.

Any thoughts?

WOW, this is not good! But then this leads to another question! Does becoming a werewolf or vampire make your character overpowered? IS it really that good?

In my experience (of PvPing a lot of vampires), it's not really worth it. They have powerful skills, but they have powerful cons to it (vampires are weak to fire). It's a tough choice (no for me) but I think they need to design a system that doesn't promote greifing.