Sheogorath Is Number One?

Kotusha · June 2019

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

Hes also a good comic relief which makes it easy to include him in side stories

It's all fun and games until (minor elsweyr spoilers)

a cute fluffy cat claws his own eyes out
I enjoyed how heavy the atmosphere got in the temple after the quest

Cloudless · June 2019

maboleth wrote: »

Someone disliking Sheo? What's that madness?!

I actually quite like the voiceactor in ESO, sounds deranged, loud, twisted and funny, as he should.

Except he really, really shouldn't.

http://www.telmoraindependent.net/2018/12/10/scratch-that-cheese-for-no-one/

JobooAGS · June 2019

I like Sheogorath, but he would be much better with Wes Johnson voice acting.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · June 2019

#TeamWesJohnson.

Interesting fact. I read a small interview with Mr Johnson some years ago, where he mentioned that he wasn't even asked to voice Sheogorath in ESO. Not a single word about it. So it wasn't a case of him being preoccupied, disagreement over a contract, not wanting to or somesuch, because he did want to voice him. He just wasn't asked.

AhPook_Is_Here · June 2019

It's his world, he has MTGA.

Thevampirenight · June 2019

Sheogorath sure knows how to get around. Read that he is in the latest Mobile Blades game. Functioning as a race change gender change person. Goes by a different name but its kinda obvious its him. Maybe this could be used to give a lore friendly way of explaining the race change tokens In Eso. Sheogorath grants you a Token where you can change your history.

Ildun · June 2019

He arguably the strongest Daedric Prince
His backstory is the best
Ironically, he has the most consistent personalities. You knew he is mad in every TES game.
Sometime you feels like he is actually helping mortal, despite his madness bring destruction and...madness.

Thevampirenight · June 2019

Yeah and in some ways he is caring, for his subjects his realm. He might be mad but yeah. He was really well put together in the Shivering Isles Expansion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ZliGwj4lE

Ye_Olde_Crowe · June 2019

I like Sheogorath, but he is not my favorite Daedric Prince. This position is held by Barbas... erm, Clavicus Vile. For reasons. Like, I love dogs...

The first DP I ever met in an ES game was Boethiah, and they scared the crap out of me (reminded me of Xiombarg, somehow). I'd really love to see them in ESO...

tohopka_eso · June 2019

I to like uncle Sheo, I mean we did kill his puppy even though it just wanted to play. And we had to take care of his uncle and all. But its the Cheese we have to be thankful right???

jainiadral · June 2019

I love him to bits. I think it's that he's the only Daedric prince who's enjoying himself; perhaps he's the only individual in all of the Elder Scrolls universe who's genuinely having fun. It's a twisted and warped kind of fun, just like madness can be at its best and most insightful moments. He's also helping out in his own warped way, and like madness, you can see it in his moments of pure truth-telling. The Mages' Guild storyline was full of his unique truth about the guilds, about the leadership in Tamriel, about

Valaste's and Shalidor's weaknesses

.

Then again, my favorite character in the Star Wars prequels was Palpatine-- the only character who felt pure joy in anything.

To quote Nassir from Secret Word Legends, "But if we can no longer have fun, if we cannot take joy in life, they have won."

Ye_Olde_Crowe wrote: »

I like Sheogorath, but he is not my favorite Daedric Prince. This position is held by Barbas... erm, Clavicus Vile. For reasons. Like, I love dogs...

The first DP I ever met in an ES game was Boethiah, and they scared the crap out of me (reminded me of Xiombarg, somehow). I'd really love to see them in ESO...

I really enjoy the ESO version of Barbas

Sylvermynx · June 2019

I still prefer Meridia and Azura. Perhaps that's because they played major roles in my fanfic for the Morthal family in Skyrim. I've never like Sheo, never going to.

Mivryna · June 2019

It's easy to overlook the depth in Sheogorath and the Shivering Isles, especially given his presentation in ESO. Especially if ESO was someone's first impression of him. In ESO he's not mad, he's just silly.

TES4 illustrates that he is highly intelligent. The quests in the Shivering Isles aren't just busy-work to pad out game time. Nearly every single task has meaning, and contributes to your ultimate success. What's more, it had to be done in such a way in order for the player to succeed.

I don't want to just give away the answers though. I'm hoping to present this through a more creative format someday.

Dracheimflug · June 2019

Hallothiel wrote: »

Annoys the hell out of me. Too over-the-top, trying too hard. Would be far better / slightly scarier if wasnt so obvious.

I suspect that is why he is so popular. I don't think he is supposed to be scary crazy, but rather literally just crazy. And his madness being annoying is also likely intentional. He does not want to kill people or scare them, but rather to drive them mad.

And considering each and every one of us as characters does all sorts of crazy dangerous things for NPC's who quite frankly should be able to handle most of this much safer without us, plus many, if not most of us engage in whacking each other in PvP in the name of fun and glory, I would quote Lewis Carroll by way of the Cheshire Cat and say:

"Oh, you can’t help that," said the Cat: "we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad."
"How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here.”

Tessitura · June 2019

Yes he is, and it's because of the " Lawl random XD " humorists. I personally have come to hate him. They could do madness so much better, I mean lets be honest, how often is crazy actually humorous? Have you seen the people in those wards? I'll tell you now, there isn't much to laugh about. Now he is just a badly written meme that never changes and does the same joke over, and over. Where is the darkness? Where is the misery? Where is the actual madness? He is actual easy to predict not at all hard to fathom or alien to our thought process in anyway.

Elusiin · June 2019

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Because storytelling is easy with him. You don't have to follow any real pattern - just random craziness.

Hell, you could even make him pose as a cat and mess with people - oh wait.....

Yeah, I didn't want to give it away to the console plebs.

SPOILER!???!? NOOOOOO YOU SHOULD'VE SAID IT IN TEXT THAT IT WAS A SPOILER!!! :'(

mague · June 2019

In the category insane madness this expansion Peryite's adepts easily win over Sheo

Cat: If this guy had only half a brain he would worship you !!

themaddaedra · June 2019

Only LOLZ to those who say Sheo is lazy writing. It's really not anyone else's fault if you guys are boring af just saying :shrug:

Xarc · June 2019

Maybe it depends the langage too.
I mean, in french his voice is really great and I like it, and when i'm listening him in english, he looks bland.
This voice is the same since skyrim.

vlakipn · June 2019

Boethiah and Azura !

RedTalon · June 2019

"I feel a grooming coming on..."

RaddlemanNumber7 · June 2019

Sheogorath Is Number One?

Hah! Trick question.

Sheogorath is all the numbers except for number one. Or zero. But mostly he's pie.

Dracheimflug · June 2019

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

Sheogorath Is Number One?

Hah! Trick question.

Sheogorath is all the numbers except for number one. Or zero. But mostly he's pie.

He is not a number! He is a Daedric being! But no prisoner....

NotaDaedraWorshipper · June 2019

Dracheimflug wrote: »

I suspect that is why he is so popular. I don't think he is supposed to be scary crazy, but rather literally just crazy. And his madness being annoying is also likely intentional. He does not want to kill people or scare them, but rather to drive them mad.

But he is. It's how he has been portrayed all the way up to ESO. He's silly and optimistic, talking cheerfully to you, then boom, with a blink of the eye he goes dead serious and comments how your tongue wriggles a lot and he wants it to be still or he'll rip it out.
He's the Deadric Prince of Madness. He's mania and dementia. He's funny, scary, charming, horrifying, nice and cruel.
Not some wishy washy random crazy mortal.

Xarcus wrote: »

This voice is the same since skyrim.

@Xarcus In the English versions Skyrim Sheo is voiced by Wes Johnson. He did him in Shivering Isles aswell. ESO's Sheo is voiced by JB Blanc.

jainiadral wrote: »

I love him to bits. I think it's that he's the only Daedric prince who's enjoying himself; perhaps he's the only individual in all of the Elder Scrolls universe who's genuinely having fun. It's a twisted and warped kind of fun, just like madness can be at its best and most insightful moments. He's also helping out in his own warped way, and like madness, you can see it in his moments of pure truth-telling. The Mages' Guild storyline was full of his unique truth about the guilds, about the leadership in Tamriel, about
Valaste's and Shalidor's weaknesses
.

Then again, my favorite character in the Star Wars prequels was Palpatine-- the only character who felt pure joy in anything.

To quote Nassir from Secret Word Legends, "But if we can no longer have fun, if we cannot take joy in life, they have won."

@jainiadral Think Mephala and Sanguine are one the having fun side aswell. They both seem to do things just for kicks and giggles.

Chadak · June 2019

Some people really don't know how to enjoy fantasy.

You betcha Sheogorath isn't a real, true to life homage to genuine mental illness. He's a slapstick literary device intended to amuse and is no more intended to be an accurate representation for mental illness than My Little Pony is for real horses.

All of these 'but mental illness am sryus biznis!' posts and links? Yes. Yes it is. So is murder, and I bet you couldn't care less about killing each other in Cyrodil, could you. Or killing characterized, personified people in PvE.

Oh but is that different? No. It isn't.

They didn't make mental illness scary enough for you? Of course they didn't, just like they don't make murder and being murdered scary on here.

Welcome to fantasy. It isn't often realistic, primarily because it's fantasy, and that's usually both the point and the reason why it's enjoyable rather than horrifying.

xxthir13enxx · June 2019

Aliyavana wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Because storytelling is easy with him. You don't have to follow any real pattern - just random craziness.

Hell, you could even make him pose as a cat and mess with people - oh wait.....

WTB

ffyre · June 2019

I think it's because of Shivering Isles.

At least that's a big reason why he's my favorite. That DLC was awesome.

Cortimi · June 2019

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Because storytelling is easy with him. You don't have to follow any real pattern - just random craziness.

Hell, you could even make him pose as a cat and mess with people - oh wait.....

Yeah, I didn't want to give it away to the console plebs.

And here I was thinking it was a reference to M'Aiq the Liar. That's a theory I can get behind. How else would M'aiq know so much?

EvilAutoTech · June 2019

I'm Uncle Sheo, I'm no stranger to the cheese
Don't try to label, you'll have butterflies for feet
You know baby, I'll draw stars upon your cheek
I'm just crazy, come on, it's Sheo, baby.

Tessitura · June 2019

Chadak wrote: »

Some people really don't know how to enjoy fantasy.

You betcha Sheogorath isn't a real, true to life homage to genuine mental illness. He's a slapstick literary device intended to amuse and is no more intended to be an accurate representation for mental illness than My Little Pony is for real horses.

All of these 'but mental illness am sryus biznis!' posts and links? Yes. Yes it is. So is murder, and I bet you couldn't care less about killing each other in Cyrodil, could you. Or killing characterized, personified people in PvE.

Oh but is that different? No. It isn't.

They didn't make mental illness scary enough for you? Of course they didn't, just like they don't make murder and being murdered scary on here.

Welcome to fantasy. It isn't often realistic, primarily because it's fantasy, and that's usually both the point and the reason why it's enjoyable rather than horrifying.

Except some of us just don't think he is funny, or amusing, or any of that. What do you think we don't understand it's fantasy because we don't like the " OMG RANDOM! " comic relief he represents? Thats ridiculous, we get what they were going for and some of us just don't like it. He never has any new material and he rarely has a punchline, in short he sucks at funny in my opinion. Cadwell is better at delivering the kind of humor they are going for with Sheogorath. And they keep talking about how scary he is suppose to be without ever really showing us that, because he is nothing but a gag run into the ground. Doesn't mean i haven't been amused by a few of his bits, but I would like to see him be something other then a "Fantasy" meme.

By the way, he is not slapstick, slapstick requires a amount of physical comedy that usually is over the top in some way. He is pretty much all verbal randomness with the occasional clever word, or sometimes a random bit of weird transmutation jokes.