What a sh*t article.
Delete console servers and force them onto PC servers? Delete console guilds? Delete their leaderboards? Force gamepad players to compete against kb/mouse players in PvP? Force players without addons to now have to compete in endgame raids without these?
Imagine thinking before writing an article. But then again it’s Forbes in 2019, a shadow of what it used to be.
THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Grianasteri wrote: »Cross platform is resisted by numerous companies because they believe it will or could damage their brand and sales.
It has been available tech for a long time, no issues. I played most recently Paragon on PS4, along side PC players. No problem.
With ESO, there would be a problem unless all the metric analytics, add ons and game enhancements were made available to console players.
If that happened, I would be hugely in favour. But as it stands, PC players have a massive massive advantage in relation to their on screen information and the stats/analysis available regarding DPS, builds etc.
That’s the thing ... a lot of console players are only on console because there are no add-ons.
Why not? What huge advantage do you think these PC add-on players have over you?THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Why would I play with no-add ons against a server full of people with them? It’s not about what I can do, it’s what add-ons allow everyone else to do.
Kingslayer513 wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Grianasteri wrote: »Cross platform is resisted by numerous companies because they believe it will or could damage their brand and sales.
It has been available tech for a long time, no issues. I played most recently Paragon on PS4, along side PC players. No problem.
With ESO, there would be a problem unless all the metric analytics, add ons and game enhancements were made available to console players.
If that happened, I would be hugely in favour. But as it stands, PC players have a massive massive advantage in relation to their on screen information and the stats/analysis available regarding DPS, builds etc.
That’s the thing ... a lot of console players are only on console because there are no add-ons.
Matey, you are deluded if you think any significant portion of people picked console because they contemplated the pros and cons of having addons. The vast majority of people pick a platform because that's the system they play most of their games on and/or that's where their friends play. Don't forget that your average eso player is a casual player.
Kalik_Gold wrote: »Keep the consoles separate from the addon PC community. Or disable all addons for crossplay (if PC is allowed).
VaranisArano wrote: »My thoughts?
Forbes seems to think that ZOS needs to embrace cross-platform play to bring more players into the whole game world.
I look at the issues ZOS seems to have when lots of players are involved, and I wonder if that's wise.
Dungeon groupfinder consistently breaks under high demand.
Cyrodiil lags and crashes whenever large numbers of players fight in the same battle.
ZOS didnt prepare adequately for the EU server to experience an influx on players at peak times.
I mean, it would be cool if ZOS could do it...but they've got to get their code in order if they do.
GarnetFire17 wrote: »Kalik_Gold wrote: »Keep the consoles separate from the addon PC community. Or disable all addons for crossplay (if PC is allowed).
Disable addons? No thank you! The addons are a big reason why people play on PC. Why should the players who have decided to spend a little more so they can have a better game experience have to pander to the ones who won't leave their sorry consoles? If don't like not having access to addons then play on PC.
bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »Why not? What huge advantage do you think these PC add-on players have over you?THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »Why would I play with no-add ons against a server full of people with them? It’s not about what I can do, it’s what add-ons allow everyone else to do.
THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »GarnetFire17 wrote: »Kalik_Gold wrote: »Keep the consoles separate from the addon PC community. Or disable all addons for crossplay (if PC is allowed).
Disable addons? No thank you! The addons are a big reason why people play on PC. Why should the players who have decided to spend a little more so they can have a better game experience have to pander to the ones who won't leave their sorry consoles? If don't like not having access to addons then play on PC.
It’s not always about the money. I could go buy a top line PC today that would sit in between my two laptops, my XBox, my PS4 and my various other ridiculously expensive toys.
As much as you enjoy your add-ons there are people who enjoy a level playing field. THAT is why I play on console. THAT is why some other people play on console
Not every person who chooses to play on console does it because of money.
Goregrinder wrote: »THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »GarnetFire17 wrote: »Kalik_Gold wrote: »Keep the consoles separate from the addon PC community. Or disable all addons for crossplay (if PC is allowed).
Disable addons? No thank you! The addons are a big reason why people play on PC. Why should the players who have decided to spend a little more so they can have a better game experience have to pander to the ones who won't leave their sorry consoles? If don't like not having access to addons then play on PC.
It’s not always about the money. I could go buy a top line PC today that would sit in between my two laptops, my XBox, my PS4 and my various other ridiculously expensive toys.
As much as you enjoy your add-ons there are people who enjoy a level playing field. THAT is why I play on console. THAT is why some other people play on console
Not every person who chooses to play on console does it because of money.
That's a nice excuse.
Hyperion616 wrote: »I'm still wondering what held World of Warcraft back for what, at least 12 out of the 15 years it's been around. Sub based only game, not on any of the consoles only PC and it didn't start it's decline until around Mist of Pandaria.
I guess some games are just not capable of standing on their own as a Pc game but need the backing of consoles to help prop them up.
RodneyRegis wrote: »
Other than Final Fantasy name more. I do not recall many triple a titles x platform
And you beat people with the grids on.THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »You’re talking to a guy who used to be top 25 in the world in Tiger Woods Golf in the mode that used no green grids or indicators at all.
GarnetFire17 wrote: »Kalik_Gold wrote: »Keep the consoles separate from the addon PC community. Or disable all addons for crossplay (if PC is allowed).
Disable addons? No thank you! The addons are a big reason why people play on PC. Why should the players who have decided to spend a little more so they can have a better game experience have to pander to the ones who won't leave their sorry consoles? If don't like not having access to addons then play on PC.
bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »And you beat people with the grids on.THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »You’re talking to a guy who used to be top 25 in the world in Tiger Woods Golf in the mode that used no green grids or indicators at all.
Siohwenoeht wrote: »It just wasn't originally designed with cross play in mind.
1. There are limitations to console and gamepad design that can put it at a severe disadvantage compared to mouse and keyboard in head to head play.
2. Megaservers have been independent for 5 years, if they go cross play, what do you do with duplicate character or account names.
3. It would need to be a complete server merge, it couldn't be optional.
4. It may not be possible with the current game architecture as there are differences between the three platforms, mostly in the UI and associated options.
5. What do you do with add-ons? Sony typically rejects the idea, or severely limits mods, Microsoft seems ambivalent, but the PC crowd wouldn't want to give them up for cross play.
Elwendryll wrote: »There are already too many people. People everywhere, do you really feel like this game lacks population?
I don't really see the benefits of cross-platform for this game, considering we have technical differences between them, Add-ons and release dates.
Imagine the reeing when console players are forced to PvP against players who have a customised mouse to aim with.
Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Y’all are forgetting the issue of character names as well