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Goodbye PvP Event
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kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭I don't understand what faction locking is and too lazy to figure it out. Can someone please tell me if I will be affected? I play my main AD in 30 day Vivec and one other in DC 7 day no CP. Thanks1 -
DisgracefulMind✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭MojaveHeld wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »MojaveHeld wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Hallothiel wrote: »Can the op not just go and do guild event in the non-faction locked campaign?
There is no No-CP unlocked campaign.
For what the OP described, their CP isn't gonna make much of a difference anyway, so their unwillingness to go into the 7-day campaign is a self-inflicted wound, and renders their entire argument worthless.
The OP stated they prefer No-CP PvP. Who cares what you think is going to make a difference to them? You're not them. There's no option for an unlocked campaign for what they prefer.
Their preferences don't matter at all in this discussion, they made a false claim as the premise of their argument. They have an option available to them that allows them to continue their event as it's been, they don't want to take it, they want to force a change that harms gameplay and other players. They torpedoed their own argument with that.
Their preferences do matter in this discussion because they are also players and customers to this game.
Them not wanting faction lock is harmful? That's an opinion. Simple as that. Just like me being anti-lock is an opinion. Your opinion is not more important than anyone else's.
The issue with the 7-day campaigns is that they are almost always empty. And, for this group, there is not a No-CP option for the 7-day anyways. This is an actual issue.Unfortunate magicka warden main.
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Hallothiel✭✭✭✭✭
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Think you will be fine. Faction lock means that once you have taken your AD into Vivec, you can then only play other AD characters in the same campaign - you would not be able to take your DC into Vivec.
But seeing as you say you play your DC in another campaign, should not affect you.4 -
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✭PvP servers are now half full even at prime time. Faction lock is a big fail keeping people out of PvP that want to play5 -
Hyperion616✭✭✭cyberjanet wrote: »Monday nights was casual PvP night in our guild. Come on at 8pm UK time, collect 25k AP, change characters if you have more than one in this week's faction, have a bit of fun. PvP isn't as terrible as you think it is, guys. Every week a different faction.
Well, I just cancelled that. PvP just became terrible. It's called faction lock, and we have to exclude Covenant from our cycle because there are not enough 30 day camapigns. You only get 10 transmute stones from a 7 day campaign, so you have to do some serious pvp to get 40 stones on that. 100k AP for 40 stones vs 25k for 50.
Event cancelled as of now.
The real question, did you post this story on your Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit accounts foreshadowing the death of P.V.P in ESO, because the game was designed around a faction war and the Developers wish for players to adhere to said design philosophy?I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it.
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That's great! Last night the PC NA server was capped. If the other servers were half full, then that's great!PvP servers are now half full even at prime time. Faction lock is a big fail keeping people out of PvP that want to play
Certainly a lot better than "empty", "dead", or any other term the faction-floppers have been using to describe the other campaigns.Lethal zergling6 -
Hyperion616✭✭✭Love hearing "adapt"
Pvp in eso needs to be overhauled... Curently stale husk of a mode that zos pays zero attention too.
There is zero competition, zero reward, zero group initiative... Really zero reason to keep getting dc'd from it
Sad really, if they also stole the server/wvw set up from gw2, maybe it wont be a dead game style in eso..... But to late now i guess
Here is the funny thing, P.V.P is nothing more than a poor mans attempt to woo the P.V.P player crowed. Regardless weather it be the smaller fraction of the player base you still have companies designing MMO's with P.V.P included.
It's almost as if these companies are scared if they made the game an All P.V.E the game may lose out on the F.P.S crowed. Which seem to make up a pretty small bracket of players in the grand scheme of things.
Kind of a "here you go, it's are version of P.V.P just to make people happy" even though we know it sucks.I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it.
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✭Icy_Waffles wrote: »Whining about transmutation stones makes me cringe.. they are so easy to get without this. I mean how many do you really need? Usually I am searching for things to transmute.
At this point I could use over 1k transmute crystals just to finish existing builds of my new pvp chars. I'd love to try some new builds though since the update made some changes. Usually it is at least 250 transmute crystals per build and that is assuming that I am lucky to farm/buy body equipment with the right traits.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭DisgracefulMind wrote: »This is a genuine issue with faction lock, actually. When One Tamriel was implemented we were all encouraged to create characters in different alliances and to make friends who mained other alliances and to broaden our horizons and enjoy the game looking past just factions. This was highly encouraged.
Now, after people have spent actual money on characters of all factions, have developed communities that depend on multi-faction, and have been able to play with their communities and do things like this event, they're being forced away from these things.
I don't care about so-and-so getting 1vX'd, I don't care about so-and-so getting trolled (trolling happened pre-faction locks, it happens by trolls in the same exact faction as well), I care about communities being split by this sudden, and ridiculously strict rule placed on a game that has encouraged the opposite for years now. If factions had been encouraged from the start, and if there was some sort of valid reward for being faction loyal, this would be a different story. But the reality is that that isn't the case, and now there's an even bigger divide in not only the PvP community, but also in the interest of PvE players coming into PvP.
ZoS encouraged communities to be created, and they were, and now ZoS is ripping them apart. It's extremely unfair. It really is.
This post made the OP’s point better. This is the underlying issue.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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ManwithBeard9✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DisgracefulMind wrote: »MojaveHeld wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »MojaveHeld wrote: »DisgracefulMind wrote: »Hallothiel wrote: »Can the op not just go and do guild event in the non-faction locked campaign?
There is no No-CP unlocked campaign.
For what the OP described, their CP isn't gonna make much of a difference anyway, so their unwillingness to go into the 7-day campaign is a self-inflicted wound, and renders their entire argument worthless.
The OP stated they prefer No-CP PvP. Who cares what you think is going to make a difference to them? You're not them. There's no option for an unlocked campaign for what they prefer.
Their preferences don't matter at all in this discussion, they made a false claim as the premise of their argument. They have an option available to them that allows them to continue their event as it's been, they don't want to take it, they want to force a change that harms gameplay and other players. They torpedoed their own argument with that.
Their preferences do matter in this discussion because they are also players and customers to this game.
Them not wanting faction lock is harmful? That's an opinion. Simple as that. Just like me being anti-lock is an opinion. Your opinion is not more important than anyone else's.
The issue with the 7-day campaigns is that they are almost always empty. And, for this group, there is not a No-CP option for the 7-day anyways. This is an actual issue.
IF they 7 day unlocked campaign is dead, why would it matter if is CP or no-CP, there's no one to fight! Which is what the OP wants, a farm campaign.3 -
BuddyAces✭✭✭✭✭
✭DisgracefulMind wrote: »This is a genuine issue with faction lock, actually. When One Tamriel was implemented we were all encouraged to create characters in different alliances and to make friends who mained other alliances and to broaden our horizons and enjoy the game looking past just factions. This was highly encouraged.
Now, after people have spent actual money on characters of all factions, have developed communities that depend on multi-faction, and have been able to play with their communities and do things like this event, they're being forced away from these things.
I don't care about so-and-so getting 1vX'd, I don't care about so-and-so getting trolled (trolling happened pre-faction locks, it happens by trolls in the same exact faction as well), I care about communities being split by this sudden, and ridiculously strict rule placed on a game that has encouraged the opposite for years now. If factions had been encouraged from the start, and if there was some sort of valid reward for being faction loyal, this would be a different story. But the reality is that that isn't the case, and now there's an even bigger divide in not only the PvP community, but also in the interest of PvE players coming into PvP.
ZoS encouraged communities to be created, and they were, and now ZoS is ripping them apart. It's extremely unfair. It really is.
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✭Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
Working as intended, no more faction hopping, no more ap farming, no more transmute farming.
And no, I dont go to cyrodiil.
Bg is my only pvp, quick and heart attack inducing fight, because I never win, yes I am a tryhard die-a-lot scrub master.1 -
Merlight✭✭✭✭✭SeaGtGruff wrote: »Like @IcyWaffles, I eventually have to look for stuff to transmute because I've got several containers that "might" contain as many as 25 transmute crystals and I've already got 85 or whatever-- so I go transmute something I hadn't really needed to, then open the containers that were hogging up my inventory slots to find... 4 crystals in each one.
Oh, well.
You can open a container just to check how many crystals it holds, without looting them if there are too many.
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✭People saying ‘meh getting enough transmute is ez meh meh’ need to just stop.
Just because you don’t have a lot to transmute doesn’t mean we don’t! I have 7 staves off the top of my head (I’m sure I’ve forgotten some!) that I have to change from charged to infused because ZOS changed things and healer need to run stuff tanks used to.
Not to mention the new sets, older sets for new chars etc.
You don’t get to determine what’s ‘enough’ for someone else so please stop using that as your argument.4 -
ManwithBeard9✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭IzzyStardust wrote: »People saying ‘meh getting enough transmute is ez meh meh’ need to just stop.
Just because you don’t have a lot to transmute doesn’t mean we don’t! I have 7 staves off the top of my head (I’m sure I’ve forgotten some!) that I have to change from charged to infused because ZOS changed things and healer need to run stuff tanks used to.
Not to mention the new sets, older sets for new chars etc.
You don’t get to determine what’s ‘enough’ for someone else so please stop using that as your argument.
That's your own problem for relying on transmute stones for your gear.1 -
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✭I try really to keep it civil and I really hate when people fight on the forums but this post makes it real hard.....had probably 5 paragraphs on how ridiculous this is and I just had to delete because I don’t feel like getting banned from the forums. Y’all need to figure your stuff out and not think the world caters to you and yours.Hey everyone! Look! It's a signature!1 -
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✭✭cyberjanet wrote: »Monday nights was casual PvP night in our guild. Come on at 8pm UK time, collect 25k AP, change characters if you have more than one in this week's faction, have a bit of fun. PvP isn't as terrible as you think it is, guys. Every week a different faction.
Well, I just cancelled that. PvP just became terrible. It's called faction lock, and we have to exclude Covenant from our cycle because there are not enough 30 day camapigns. You only get 10 transmute stones from a 7 day campaign, so you have to do some serious pvp to get 40 stones on that. 100k AP for 40 stones vs 25k for 50.
Event cancelled as of now.
25k AP IS easy if you’re not zerging. Just have your guild run around and pvdoor in the newly weirdly named Vivec. Problem solved.
I usually have to transmute crap just to transmute it because I’m buried in crystals lol.0 -
Bryath✭✭✭Honest question, not trying to be a *** - Do players in your guild not have toons from all three alliances? Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like most people do and thus I don't see what the big deal is.0
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✭✭✭✭Tonnopesce wrote: »So the issue is farming?
There are many many threads like this, transmute crystals are not something you are supposed to obtain this easy.
Adapt.
Looks like he adapted right out of PvP. Obviously that's good for the game....0 -
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✭✭✭✭Helgi_Skotina wrote: »I think the account should be PvP - faction locked. Ppl who fight for the alliances are tired looking at a group running near a player of the opposing alliance not attacking him cuz he is "friendly". I had to stop resing all players who are not in my group - cuz they could be opposing alliance spies or just some players, doing PvP for farm. So pls ZoS make the rule - 1 account = 1 alliance, to make sure there is no cooperation with the enemy.
I'm guessing you're actually a pveers who wants to kill cyrodiil.0 -
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when they say end of campaigns rewards are crap they’re talking about the max 30-40k gold, jewelry, and wall repair kits. Everyone values transmutes and that’s what it boils down to.bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »So... you say you play in Cyrodiil to "have a bit of fun", but then your biggest complaint is that you are missing out on some rewards? That's funny, most of the faction-floppers claim the rewards are trivial and irrelevant.
They’re a pve group that comes to pve for the 50 transmutes from the 30 days. They’d be doing themselves a disservice to go into shor where over 28 days you only get 40
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ShadowProc✭✭✭✭✭cyberjanet wrote: »Monday nights was casual PvP night in our guild. Come on at 8pm UK time, collect 25k AP, change characters if you have more than one in this week's faction, have a bit of fun. PvP isn't as terrible as you think it is, guys. Every week a different faction.
Well, I just cancelled that. PvP just became terrible. It's called faction lock, and we have to exclude Covenant from our cycle because there are not enough 30 day camapigns. You only get 10 transmute stones from a 7 day campaign, so you have to do some serious pvp to get 40 stones on that. 100k AP for 40 stones vs 25k for 50.
Event cancelled as of now.
Awe. Show me on the doll where the pvper touched you.Edited by ShadowProc on May 28, 2019 3:38AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭DisgracefulMind wrote: »This is a genuine issue with faction lock, actually. When One Tamriel was implemented we were all encouraged to create characters in different alliances and to make friends who mained other alliances and to broaden our horizons and enjoy the game looking past just factions. This was highly encouraged.
Now, after people have spent actual money on characters of all factions, have developed communities that depend on multi-faction, and have been able to play with their communities and do things like this event, they're being forced away from these things.
I don't care about so-and-so getting 1vX'd, I don't care about so-and-so getting trolled (trolling happened pre-faction locks, it happens by trolls in the same exact faction as well), I care about communities being split by this sudden, and ridiculously strict rule placed on a game that has encouraged the opposite for years now. If factions had been encouraged from the start, and if there was some sort of valid reward for being faction loyal, this would be a different story. But the reality is that that isn't the case, and now there's an even bigger divide in not only the PvP community, but also in the interest of PvE players coming into PvP.
ZoS encouraged communities to be created, and they were, and now ZoS is ripping them apart. It's extremely unfair. It really is.
How so?
You could never PvP together with characters of a different alliance.
Before One Tamriel, you had to create characters in a different faction if you wanted to run dungeons or trials with them. That's how many people ended up with different faction characters. We had people join our guild whose main characters were not in EP, so we made charcters in other alliances so we could play with them before OT.
But for PvP, that was always the case. If you want to PvP, you have to go with people from the same faction. Faction locking a campaign does not change that. And there is still a non-faction locked campaign (although I agree a non-CP 7-day is needed).
ZOS is not "ripping communities apart" any more than they did before this update.The Moot Councillor2 -
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✭✭✭✭cyberjanet wrote: »Tonnopesce wrote: »So the issue is farming?
There are many many threads like this, transmute crystals are not something you are supposed to obtain this easy.
Adapt.
Maybe you think getting 25 AP is easy. You are the problem. You just ruined a fun guild evening. And everyone like you.
I tried going in on the CP campaign and hated every minute of it. I don't like playing solo. I HATE PLAYING WITH ARROGANT SODS and this game is too full of them.
You may wear the hat, as it seems to fit. Why can't we have some casual PvP, eh????
Hold the floppy phone just one second
YOU were the one who canceled the event. I don't see where the "Fun" event needed to be canceled IF you did it for Fun. If you are doing it for Fun, the reward should be secondary.
YOU canceled it because YOU decided "it wasn't worth the reward". Had nothing to do with the Fun of PvP
This is all on YOU.
Fact is you Can still have your PvP night if you want to.
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✭✭✭✭✭Something changes in ESO...
Forums: *** this game, delete it, cancelled, my whole life is ruined, PvPers suck, elite players ruin everything etc etc.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Tonnopesce wrote: »So the issue is farming?
There are many many threads like this, transmute crystals are not something you are supposed to obtain this easy.
Adapt.
Wut? So Zos made these changes to make Transmutation crystals harder to farm? LOL People come up with all sorts of fabricated justifications now.1 -
Yasha✭✭✭✭✭The OP's "complaint" only confirms just how import faction lock is to a RvR game, and how the previous system was undermining it.
Thank you again for the faction lock; it would have been better to lock all campaigns but at least this is a good start.2