Necro not really a good class

mikeabboudb14_ESO · May 2019

After leveling mine I can't think of anything the Necro can do that my sorcerer cant do better.

My favorite abilities for the class are the ultimate's. Nice visual and they do what there supposed to do. The skull thing is your spam ability and honestly you don't need to slot anything else just spam that one ability and your golden. I think some of the thought process was to have the neco do some major damage over time type of class.( I think it achieves this with boneyard and siphon (if there is a body in the area)). The problem is everything is dead in a few seconds, not 25 or 10 so most of the resources are wasted.

Blast bones should not even be slotted except to level up and then you remove it and replaces it with anything else, and this is the problem with the class. to make it work you will be using mostly skills from lines already available to every other class. The "pet" lasts a about 16 seconds and again you really don't need it, its essentially a moving DOT. i am just not liking the class hopefully they can redo some of the skills make it more of a pet class or maybe change the skull thing to something that does oblivion damage instead. .

It does seem to be able to tank well. I have soloed pretty much any WB i have come across and soloed my first party dungeon with a mix of abilities.

Maybe instead of focusing on all 3 areas they return to classes that do one thing good and not worry about having 3 lines that do every thing. It kind of has all the same issues as the warden its a hybrid no one really needs.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · May 2019

The skull thing is your spam ability and honestly you don't need to slot anything else just spam that one ability and your golden.

overland pve 100% but you could also just spam light attacks there as well and get the same affect, maybe get into some vet content before you make a judgement?

. I have soloed pretty much any WB

lol i can solo any world boss on all my toons, whether they are full healers or tanks. all my dps kill them without the need for any help, just like my healers and tanks, just faster. not really a point to brag about or even bring up.

i am just not liking the class

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this is fine. you dont have to like everything about the game, i hate pvp myself, you can still enjoy the rest of the game you do like. just play a class you like.

FearlessOne_2014 · May 2019

I brought the Chapter for the Necromancer class. Worst decision in my time playing ESO. The class is complete trash. Abilities don't even fire. The class has a huge movement reduction bug that only a relog can fix. The class is trash at doing damage. Which makes the class unplayable!

Honestly this chapter made me so sour. That I decided to uninstall ESO and cancel my subscription, until ZOS either offers a refund for the chapter, or fix the class. (The only reason I had for buying said chapter.) Until then I'll be on a break from ESO.

dcam86b14_ESO · May 2019

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

I brought the Chapter for the Necromancer class. Worst decision in my time playing ESO. The class is complete trash. Abilities don't even fire. The class has a huge movement reduction bug that only a relog can fix. The class is trash at doing damage. Which makes the class unplayable!

Honestly this chapter made me so sour. That I decided to uninstall ESO and cancel my subscription, until ZOS either offers a refund for the chapter, or fix the class. (The only reason I had for buying said chapter.) Until then I'll be on a break from ESO.

yet here you are on the forums complaining ...hmmm

tinythinker · May 2019

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

I brought the Chapter for the Necromancer class. Worst decision in my time playing ESO. The class is complete trash. Abilities don't even fire. The class has a huge movement reduction bug that only a relog can fix. The class is trash at doing damage. Which makes the class unplayable!

Honestly this chapter made me so sour. That I decided to uninstall ESO and cancel my subscription, until ZOS either offers a refund for the chapter, or fix the class. (The only reason I had for buying said chapter.) Until then I'll be on a break from ESO.

Haven't encountered those issues. Sorry you've been having them and not enjoying the class

Mesoz · May 2019

dcam86b14_ESO wrote: »

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

I brought the Chapter for the Necromancer class. Worst decision in my time playing ESO. The class is complete trash. Abilities don't even fire. The class has a huge movement reduction bug that only a relog can fix. The class is trash at doing damage. Which makes the class unplayable!

Honestly this chapter made me so sour. That I decided to uninstall ESO and cancel my subscription, until ZOS either offers a refund for the chapter, or fix the class. (The only reason I had for buying said chapter.) Until then I'll be on a break from ESO.

yet here you are on the forums complaining ...hmmm

Ah so if someone is unhappy with something they should just say nothing? Even if they aren't playing, they have every right to express their feelings about something. And they are right, the Necromancer has a ton of things wrong with it, it's a buggy and broken mess right now.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · May 2019

Mesoz wrote: »

dcam86b14_ESO wrote: »

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

I brought the Chapter for the Necromancer class. Worst decision in my time playing ESO. The class is complete trash. Abilities don't even fire. The class has a huge movement reduction bug that only a relog can fix. The class is trash at doing damage. Which makes the class unplayable!

Honestly this chapter made me so sour. That I decided to uninstall ESO and cancel my subscription, until ZOS either offers a refund for the chapter, or fix the class. (The only reason I had for buying said chapter.) Until then I'll be on a break from ESO.

yet here you are on the forums complaining ...hmmm

Ah so if someone is unhappy with something they should just say nothing? Even if they aren't playing, they have every right to express their feelings about something. And they are right, the Necromancer has a ton of things wrong with it, it's a buggy and broken mess right now.

there is saying they are unhappy with one part of the game, then there is tossing out the whole game becuae of that one thing. there is so much to the game, it is a bit myopic to "uninstall ESO and cancel my subscription" like that guy did.

ChunkyCat · May 2019

When they first announced Necros earlier this year, I was like “wowowow so cool!”

Then they released it on PTS and I read through the skill lines and I was like “uhhh, weird flex, guess I’ll wait to see what one them famous streamers does with it.”

Now I’m like “glad I didn’t waste any time leveling one up.”

tinythinker · May 2019

Mesoz wrote: »

Ah so if someone is unhappy with something they should just say nothing? Even if they aren't playing, they have every right to express their feelings about something.

true

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Mesoz wrote: »

Ah so if someone is unhappy with something they should just say nothing? Even if they aren't playing, they have every right to express their feelings about something. And they are right, the Necromancer has a ton of things wrong with it, it's a buggy and broken mess right now.

there is saying they are unhappy with one part of the game, then there is tossing out the whole game becuae of that one thing. there is so much to the game, it is a bit myopic to "uninstall ESO and cancel my subscription" like that guy did.

true as well, but, it's also their choice how to react

Avran_Sylt · May 2019

Yeah, I like the idea of the class, but the execution needs a little more polish. Though I'm only a lvl 29 Necro right now,

Things I'd suggest:

Add 1m to Ravenous Goliath AoE
Need to allow Recasting of Goliath to exit the Transformation early (mainly an issue only in Skyreach with missing Bitter Harvest Ultigen)
Blastbones needs to either allow for more than one up at a time, or really make it dangerous.

Matthew_Galvanus · May 2019

i dont know why people are hating on Necromancer so much. im having a lot of fun with the class and i personaly find it easier to spellweave with Necro than i do sorcerer. Once i have it at level 50, i plan on gearing it up and parsing to see if it damages higher than my sorc

ArchMikem · May 2019

mikeabboudb14_ESO wrote: »

It does seem to be able to tank well. I have soloed pretty much any WB i have come across and soloed my first party dungeon with a mix of abilities.

Solos every World Boss, proceeds to complain the Class isn't good enough.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · May 2019

tinythinker wrote: »

Mesoz wrote: »

Ah so if someone is unhappy with something they should just say nothing? Even if they aren't playing, they have every right to express their feelings about something.

true

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Mesoz wrote: »

Ah so if someone is unhappy with something they should just say nothing? Even if they aren't playing, they have every right to express their feelings about something. And they are right, the Necromancer has a ton of things wrong with it, it's a buggy and broken mess right now.

there is saying they are unhappy with one part of the game, then there is tossing out the whole game becuae of that one thing. there is so much to the game, it is a bit myopic to "uninstall ESO and cancel my subscription" like that guy did.

true as well, but, it's also their choice how to react

100% their choice to react irrationally, does not mean that is the correct way.

tinythinker · May 2019

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

tinythinker wrote: »

Mesoz wrote: »

Ah so if someone is unhappy with something they should just say nothing? Even if they aren't playing, they have every right to express their feelings about something.

true

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Mesoz wrote: »

Ah so if someone is unhappy with something they should just say nothing? Even if they aren't playing, they have every right to express their feelings about something. And they are right, the Necromancer has a ton of things wrong with it, it's a buggy and broken mess right now.

there is saying they are unhappy with one part of the game, then there is tossing out the whole game becuae of that one thing. there is so much to the game, it is a bit myopic to "uninstall ESO and cancel my subscription" like that guy did.

true as well, but, it's also their choice how to react

100% their choice to react irrationally, does not mean that is the correct way.

well, i figure it's their time, their money, their computer, so that makes their choice the "right way" whatever others may think, myself included

*shrug*

Kikke · May 2019

Random numbers generated; 80% of those that say that they ended their ESO+ will re up it before it expires. 90% of those that say they uninstalled the game did not and will open the game again with the first chance given too them.

Kadoin · May 2019

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

I brought the Chapter for the Necromancer class. Worst decision in my time playing ESO. The class is complete trash. Abilities don't even fire. The class has a huge movement reduction bug that only a relog can fix. The class is trash at doing damage. Which makes the class unplayable!

Honestly this chapter made me so sour. That I decided to uninstall ESO and cancel my subscription, until ZOS either offers a refund for the chapter, or fix the class. (The only reason I had for buying said chapter.) Until then I'll be on a break from ESO.

I thought this patch was the worst too...

Sirona_Starr · May 2019

mikeabboudb14_ESO wrote: »

After leveling mine I can't think of anything the Necro can do that my sorcerer cant do better.

My favorite abilities for the class are the ultimate's. Nice visual and they do what there supposed to do. The skull thing is your spam ability and honestly you don't need to slot anything else just spam that one ability and your golden. I think some of the thought process was to have the neco do some major damage over time type of class.( I think it achieves this with boneyard and siphon (if there is a body in the area)). The problem is everything is dead in a few seconds, not 25 or 10 so most of the resources are wasted.

Blast bones should not even be slotted except to level up and then you remove it and replaces it with anything else, and this is the problem with the class. to make it work you will be using mostly skills from lines already available to every other class. The "pet" lasts a about 16 seconds and again you really don't need it, its essentially a moving DOT. i am just not liking the class hopefully they can redo some of the skills make it more of a pet class or maybe change the skull thing to something that does oblivion damage instead. .

It does seem to be able to tank well. I have soloed pretty much any WB i have come across and soloed my first party dungeon with a mix of abilities.

Maybe instead of focusing on all 3 areas they return to classes that do one thing good and not worry about having 3 lines that do every thing. It kind of has all the same issues as the warden its a hybrid no one really needs.

I was just going to post pretty much the same thing. I was really excited for a bunch of new skills to use and try, but because they are split between 3 classes, you don't really get much new. I very quickly switched back to weapon skills, and the same old same old to try to fill slots........

I especially agree with it being a reskinned kind of warden, with magic dps absolutely horrid......... and yes, no one needs a hybrid.

Sibenice · May 2019

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

I brought the Chapter for the Necromancer class. Worst decision in my time playing ESO. The class is complete trash. Abilities don't even fire. The class has a huge movement reduction bug that only a relog can fix. The class is trash at doing damage. Which makes the class unplayable!

Honestly this chapter made me so sour. That I decided to uninstall ESO and cancel my subscription, until ZOS either offers a refund for the chapter, or fix the class. (The only reason I had for buying said chapter.) Until then I'll be on a break from ESO.

You don't have to relog. Just heavy attack with both of your weapons. You don't even need to target anything for that. It's fixed it every time for me. It's definitely a *** bug, though.

mikeabboudb14_ESO · May 2019

ArchMikem wrote: »

mikeabboudb14_ESO wrote: »

It does seem to be able to tank well. I have soloed pretty much any WB i have come across and soloed my first party dungeon with a mix of abilities.

Solos every World Boss, proceeds to complain the Class isn't good enough.

I was simply sharing my thoughts about the class. I think its derivative and unoriginal. It has a little bit of the other classes so it doesn't stand on its own. Much like the warden. I think the problem is they want those classes to have something for everyone and in so doing they have nothing anyone one doesn't already have with their current classes.

homura · May 2019

I agree what most of the people have been saying about this chapter. For one I didn't know there could be a chapter that was worse then summerset,but at least I got jewelry crafting and psijic order with that. Useful skills that I could use on whatever class or build I wanted so my buy was justified. This chapter I only pre ordered cause the necromancer sounded really cool but was executed as bad or worse then the warden was. I didn't care much for the rest of this chapter since it doesn't offer much but more gear. I wanted another cool class that failed horribly. Its full of bugs and has broken skills. I've been reading the forums and the majority of people are not satisfied with this class. Why should we when we already went through this with the warden and now necromancer too? I still love the game and will continue to play it. I like the devs and all,but I will think hard before ordering another chapter from them again after this.

HorrorShow · May 2019

All they had to do was make a class with a variety of minions to summon and spells centered on buffing those minions.

But nope. Had to flex their creative muscles to try and reinvent the wheel.

I am hopeful it will get a redesign eventually.

Peekachu99 · May 2019

HorrorShow wrote: »

All they had to do was make a class with a variety of minions to summon and spells centered on buffing those minions.

But nope. Had to flex their creative muscles to try and reinvent the wheel.

I am hopeful it will get a redesign eventually.

It won’t get a redesign—too late in the game for that. It will just get patched and cobbled together until it’s something like the magden, sadly.

Wildberryjack · May 2019

I'm having a lot of fun with it. Sure my MagSorc is stronger (it actually is yeah) but my NB makes a far superior thief so what's your point really? Unless you're playing high end veteran content where every speck of DPS counts does it matter?

stewhead2ub17_ESO · May 2019

loving my necro! Loving my sorc and the other bunches of different char's I've created and play over the last five years.

tuxon · May 2019

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Abilities don't even fire. The class has a huge movement reduction bug that only a relog can fix.

Aahhhh so that what it was! Okay, I was totally confused in the dungeon when I had it. And I also could not use abilities 0_o

Anhedonie · May 2019

It's a reskinned warden in terms of pve with the same "features". Stam is very powerful in pve, mag is kinda meh. Both are clunky. But at least visuals are nice.

david_m_18b16_ESO · May 2019

Well PvE stam seems good
Tanking is hella fun now and seems good.
mag is just trash for anything. BB beeing the core emcanics is forcing to be in melee range for optimal parse and PvP BB is just crap if you try to cast it from afar.

Since I'm a magicka player I'll probably stick with my magsorc but if I ever go back to stamdps or tanking. I'll roll a necro.

Nogawd · May 2019

It's not a class for meta chasers.

Screw them anyway.

Mesoz · May 2019

david_m_18b16_ESO wrote: »

Well PvE stam seems good
Tanking is hella fun now and seems good.
mag is just trash for anything. BB beeing the core emcanics is forcing to be in melee range for optimal parse and PvP BB is just crap if you try to cast it from afar.

Since I'm a magicka player I'll probably stick with my magsorc but if I ever go back to stamdps or tanking. I'll roll a necro.

Yeah necro tanking is really fun, and stam plays really well even with BB being bugged which i find hilarious. While mag just cries in a corner hoping to have a use.

oddbasket · May 2019

I would say Necro is very versatile, has great utility in healing and survivability even as dps, and thus is decent in all roles.

The mechanics unique to the class however, can be interesting or fun, but in reality hinders the class. The potential for dps increase through corpse consumption is rarely realized in pve especially group content when everything dies too fast making the class as a dps always late to the party by design. Of course, skipping said mechanics and just using the skills that are more upfront with damage and the class loses its flavor.