Alchemical wrote: »

I have ADHD that is considered 'severe' and 'life impacting' by medical professionals. I've always just spammed spacebar/jump in every game ever. I must. Jump. Constantly. Or else it really deepfries the few working nerve ending in my brain with anxiety. Suggestion; Just rebind your keys or something so that whatever ones you're compelled to press aren't illegal ability ones. Gotta press 3 all the time? Just put, like, a buff on that slot. Unless you mean you just sit there and roll your hand across your entire keyboard all the time, in which case it seems like you'd be accidentally doing a lot of stuff you didn't want to no matter what class you were playing.

Maybe try playing with a controller? It gives better tactile feedback for fidgeting, and it's pretty comfortable to just mash X/A and bounce around. Facerolling across an entire gamepad also isn't really so easy, so the chances of accidently doing something seem minimal. I do end up occasionally stealing stuff because I mispressed selected steal instead, but that's hardly just a gamepad problem.

I like the necromancer being a part of the justice system, personally. It compromises the neat concept with my original gripes about how immersion breaking it would be. I'm kind of hoping they might extend it to daedra pets too, because they take up so much screen real estate anywhere there's more than a couple of players. I hate wading around up to my armpits in clanfears, struggling to target the merchant so I can repair my pants.

Feeling compelled to do a certain task over and over sounds more like OCD than ADD/ADHD, though there could be overlap that I'm not aware of since I don't have either of those issues. Also, the pets for Sorc likely won't get added to the Justice System because summoning Daedra isn't inherently illegal in most of Tamriel. Summoning and Conjuration are both valid Schools of magick, even though in ESO's time the Schools aren't exactly solidified or anything yet. Summoning a Daedra, while it might get you shunned and disdained, isn't in and of itself illegal (at least, not in most places, though in certain regions like Summerset and Hammerfell you'll probably get mobbed). It's only when you start attacking innocent people with those Daedra that you actively become a criminal.

Also I tested the Esc key thing. It will register most key presses, such as keys that open different parts of menu and number pad keys, but it won't register the number keys on the main keyboard (aka the ones your skills are bound to by default). If it's just those you're hitting, OP, then bring up the Esc menu and you'll be good to go. Otherwise, your best bet is going to be tinkering with your bars so you can do as others have suggested; have one bar set to harmless skills that won't incur a bounty, and swap to it while in towns/cities/around NPCs who can witness 'criminal act' skills.

I'm not even ADHD and I spam abilities around town xD

I don't have ADHD but I still make mistakes like that all the time(for other reasons). There are so many other individual factors affecting your ability to focus, not pressing wrong keys or not having a brainfart. Also, far from everyone with ADHD have the need to constantly mash keys.

I wouldn't mind an option to turn of all possible criminal actions in towns though. But sadly can't expect gaming developers to consider and accommodate every single function variation, disability, disorder or handicap, when designing games.

You have to make a working system/setup yourself that prevents it with the tools that exists. Can for example change to a special action bar without pets, for towns. But I can imagine someone with key-mashing issues, would unconsciously change back to the normal action bar lol.

Use Dressing Room or similar (add-on) and swap to a safe set of skills on both bars in towns etc

Now those with issues on consoles I feel for ( no add-on)!

Vietfox wrote: »

A "prevent stealing anything" choice would be nice too.

There is an add-on which prevent accidentally steal item, hopefully there will be add-on which prevent you accidentally cast necromancy skill.

ArchMikem wrote: »

I dont want to agree with you cause ZOS doing this was only a good thing for lore immersion, and i hope they expand it to include werewolves, vampires, daedric magic etc. And when it comes to duels, how about this. Leave town. Duel outside. ZOS gave us an entire arena to the west of Wayrest just tor dueling that everyone ignores.

I dont know what else to say other than to just deal with it. Thats not me being mean, thats just your only option. Like other people said, ZOS isnt going to cater to you for your personal struggles.

I agree with this. Also, while I'm naturally sympathetic to those who suffer from a clinical condition, I'm not convinced that most of the players who persist in jumping around all over the place and can't stay still fall into that category.

Clearly a few players are struggling with the criminal skills for one reason or another, and the only answers for them are either to avoid the necromancer class or else adapt to the new dynamics for example by setting up a second bar with non-criminal skills only. Changing the class design or introducing an option that would place you at a considerable advantage over others who don't want that option, for example when dueling another necromancer, would be a wholly unsatisfactory way of addressing the concerns of those players - who ought, in any event, to give the new dynamic more than a few days of practice and experience before railing against it.

Imperial_Voice wrote: »

ecru wrote: »

Imperial_Voice wrote: »

I have ADHD and no the *** it isnt.

Your lived experience with ADHD isn't going to be the same as everyone else's, thank you for the anecdote though.

Neither ia yours, therefore it isnt unfair to anyone. Now *** off

Lol this thread has devolved into a complete mess.

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

No. OP is just playing the victim card to try and get his own way, everyone else be damned.

lol holy *** I'm not claiming to be a victim, it's just extremely annoying.

There are some pretty unfortunate people in this thread who seem really eager to assign a label to me that I'm not even assigning to myself so that they can insult me. I'm glad the eso community in game is absolutely nothing like it is on the forums and I hope whatever has caused you to act like this works itself out soon. I hope anyone reading this who might be new to the game understands that people in this thread don't reflect people's attitudes in game at all.

Thanks to everyone else who was nice enough to offer some potential solutions. I'll give some of them a shot.

Androconium wrote: »

Neoealth wrote: »

How about you try having some self control, op.

Do you have zero will power or something? Can't you train yourself to stop senselessly bashing buttons?

That would be the "deficit of attention" part.

Couldn't YOU just train yourself not to respond to this post, with all your self control and lack of knowledge?

No. I like responding and giving my opinions. So deal with it. People with these sort of conditions can do self help courses for adults to help them overcome repetitive behaviours. So don't give me that.

What's more reasonable, changing ones own behaviours to adapt to the situation, or expecting a computer game company to change the game to adapt to people who suffer from issues like the op's?

CompM4s wrote: »

Life is going to be really difficult for you if you expect everyone to accommodate you.

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

You know that you played the 'model the game around me' card?

People do not insult you, they just point out that the devs made clear from the beginning that their concept of necromancy is a rogue class with criminal skills. You knew that when you created one.

Just gonna quote myself from earlier in this thread because people still feel the need to act like this:

ecru wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

ecru wrote: »

Starlock wrote: »

ecru wrote: »

Ihat player who is jumping around and casting abilities here and there in town--they probably can't really help it. That's just what they do, that's how they are, and to be punished for it is frankly pretty terrible.

I... I'm sorry, but let's put things in context for a second. Let's assume that you do more with your life than stay holed in in your home and play video games. Presumably, you have found ways to deal with your need to fidget in ways that are socially acceptable and don't net you hostility or nasty looks when you are out in public. I'm pretty sure if you went jumping around and flailing your limbs about in the real world folks would give you leery glances at best and call the police at worst. Find a different outlet for your fidgets in the game just like you have to in the real world. Like it or not, you can't always be "who you are" in this world or in a game world. It'll do you a service in the long run to channel this better in game as well as out of game.

lol what even is this post, i'm pretty sure ESO is a video game and not real life.

If that's what you got out of my post, I'm afraid my point was lost on you. Let me put this more simply, then, without the metaphor.

All of us with disabilities can expect a certain degree of accommodation, but it is also our responsibility to learn to manage it on our own to a certain degree as well. It doesn't matter if we're talking about "real life" or a game world in this regard. We cannot always do what we want to do. Frankly, this applies regardless of disability as well. If something is beyond our power to change, it is up to us to learn to adapt to it. That doesn't mean we can't air our grievances, but we need to accept when something is not in our control and instead change ourselves. Such flexibility serves us well in the long run especially when we have to deal with the additional adversity created by having a disability.

If you want it put even more simply, life is not and never was fair and we all need to take responsibility for ourselves by adapting to that fact. In any case, may the fates treat you kindly.

Yeah, I manage my disabilities just fine. I'm visually impaired to the point where I can't even drive safely at certain times of the day and I have almost every vet trial achievement in the game. I don't ask ZOS to change parts of the game where I can't see well (which is most of the game) specifically for me. What I'm asking is something a lot of other people have been asking for since this "feature" was announced, but adding one more reason why some kind of toggle might be a good idea. That's it.

I don't need to be accommodated. Concepts change if enough people want them to. Things in this game that people don't like change all the time--refer to the patch notes if you don't believe me. You're free to not even try to effect change and just accept things how they are, and I'm free to give it a shot. I'm not losing anything here by doing so.

I'm trying to wrap my brain around this complaint.

So I read it as while in town, idle, someone or a group of people with a attention condition fiddle with a mouse and trigger a skill that garnishes a bounty, be it necro or otherwise.
If this is correct then what are you doing in town being idle? Just sitting there? If you're in town to craft you're busy crafting. If you're in town talking to NPCs for questing you're busy doing that and unable to trigger a skill as you're in dialog.

If you're just standing in town doing nothing at all, except playing with buttons that's problematic and you're ultimately going to make a mistake and trigger a skill.

I have ADD and I do NONE of this. I've accidently triggered a skill after talking to my banker but whatever. And I use a controller so I'm significantly more apt to mistakenly trigger a skill that may hit a npc and be a assault. Pay my fine and it's an ooops issue.

I don't understand the OP as the argument you make doesn't line up. This isn't a ZOS issue. This isn't a mechanic issue. This is a you need to have something else to keep you occupied issue. No disrespect intended.

Before the OP replies, I have a twitch in my left hand that is erratic being a disabled vet along with my ADD due to a closed head injury so please, for all of us who have these issues, don't expect empathy from me or use them as a crutch. You chose to fiddle with the mouse versus having something else readily available as I have a stress ball in case have a small spasm in my hand. Don't trivialize real world issues people have, like me, by blaming a game mechanic on your inability to manage your situation.