So ZOS makes us pay a minimum of 35$ for a Broken class and a very small zone?

Tasear · May 2019

Haashhtaag wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

* I can hunt dragons
* I can rid big fat cat
* the zone is beatiful
* tanking with necromancer is beyond fun
* technically we are still in early release

Stop, just stop. Because someone gives you a black eye but helps you put make up on to cover the bruise doesn’t make them good. Same with ZOS. They built up this class and released it broke.

The game isn't just about one thing. I played in pts beta from day 1. I knew exactly what I was getting. The tanking experience is beyond enjoyable. The healing is disjointed. The Magicka dps isn't for me. The stamina dps is just plain cool.

Dragon hunting is rewarding in experience, and rewards for accomplishment.

Story telling is always top notch so when I want it then it's there.

The exploration feel is very cool. It has 3 levels so traveling is not a flat experience.

I am a huge fan of the art style and colors in zone. My main character has been hanging around.

I wanted more skill points. I always do so there's that.

I can make a ton of gold being poineer in the zone.

Eventually I will join up into trials.

jircris11 · May 2019

Amazing how entitled ppl are, they then attack others who ACTUALLY enjoy what they bought. As for the poster above me. I have had NO issue with any if the bugs you mentioned.

Osteos · May 2019

VinayExile wrote: »

Casterial wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

* I can hunt dragons
* I can rid big fat cat
* the zone is beatiful
* tanking with necromancer is beyond fun
* technically we are still in early release

Stop, just stop. Because someone gives you a black eye but helps you put make up on to cover the bruise doesn’t make them good. Same with ZOS. They built up this class and released it broke.

Whats broken on it? Also early access means early access. Judge it June 4th

All of the pet despawns are bugged.
The pet AI dont attack or move.
The despawns creates no dead bodies
Dead bodies are bugged so you cant use them.

If the damage skills actually do go off, the damage is off wich means they have a 17k tooltip but will hit for only 4k.

I haven't encountered any of these issues. The only time the blastbones doesn't detonate is if all enemies die before it reaches them then it just stands there perplexed about the meaning of its existence for a second.

cascarrabias · May 2019

If they didnt fix that before is because probably they were focussing their efforts in other tasks with more priority. It will eventually get fixed, just relax.

max_only · May 2019

Anyone else noticing the character running slower after casting skills? I have to relog to get it back to regular speed and no, I’m not accidentally touching a keybind for run/walk.

sionIV · May 2019

cascarrabias wrote: »

If they didnt fix that before is because probably they were focussing their efforts in other tasks with more priority. It will eventually get fixed, just relax.

This is a problem with the gaming industry in general, and you're part of it IF you accept and defend this kind of behavior from the game publishers. It's not just a problem with ZOS, it's a problem with most game publishers nowadays. Games that obviously aren't fully completed yet, get sold at premium price. Instead of giving the game (developers) another couple of months to fix most of the issues, they get released in a broken state. Another prime example of this is Fallout 76.

We should not accept nor defend this practice.

Chadak · May 2019

I don't remember what I paid. I pre-ordered it a bit ago.

Necromancer's got some kinks. They'll get worked out.

I'm thoroughly enjoying the new zone and the storyline. It's well told story goodness and I think they're getting better at these Chapter releases as they get more experience with releasing them.

All in all, pretty happy. And necro looks like it'll be a lot of fun when I get around to wanting to roll a new character.

wishlist14 · May 2019

I am very happy with what I got thank you. I am having fun with this chapter so to me it's worth it. I expect to be enjoying this chapter over many months and I imagine there may be more balancing to be done. If not then I'll just adapt, it's how I roll.

I'd be prepared to pay another $35 just to stop all this negativity about this chapter. A lot of us are happy with Elsweyr and we are going about our adventures and enjoying it greatly. I think some of us know that things do eventually get tweaked and such. I still wish that pvp and pve were separate honestly it would make the devs jobs much easier when balancing but I'm not sure if it's doable.

$35 well spent imo.

Imza · May 2019

VinayExile wrote: »

Chicharron wrote: »

VinayExile wrote: »

https://clips.twitch.tv/ElegantPlumpHamburgerFunRun
@ZOS_GinaBruno
the issue on this clip is NOT the only bug, there is at least 4 other breaking bugs for the class.
NOT TO MENTION THE REST OF THE 100 GAMEBREAKING BUGS THAT DENY GAMEPLAY.
how the actual hell, are you able to get away with something like this?
You tell us you know about it, but wont fix it untill next patch?

are you joking? this company should be raided by angry bosmer and get incapped silenced to be sued by nords and be stripped of asking people money for the crap you release.

and yes i am ranting, because these issues were listed on pts forums, and you pushed it live anyway.

Prepurchase Morrowind and i have never played with a Warden and i will never do it.
Prepurchase Elsweyr and i have never played with a Necromancer and i will never do it.

I'm happy with the two chapters.

Your opinion is not the same as everyone's, do not generalize.

Generalize? i dont generalize wth do you even mean, im talking about ZOS releasing broken content, that they KNEW was broken because it was adressed in the testing weeks of PTS.
Yet they just dont give a crap, just push out the DLC without fixing anything.

did you perchance buy Windows Operating System?

Chicharron · May 2019

sionIV wrote: »

cascarrabias wrote: »

If they didnt fix that before is because probably they were focussing their efforts in other tasks with more priority. It will eventually get fixed, just relax.

This is a problem with the gaming industry in general, and you're part of it IF you accept and defend this kind of behavior from the game publishers. It's not just a problem with ZOS, it's a problem with most game publishers nowadays. Games that obviously aren't fully completed yet, get sold at premium price. Instead of giving the game (developers) another couple of months to fix most of the issues, they get released in a broken state. Another prime example of this is Fallout 76.

We should not accept nor defend this practice.

They put a stone on sale and people bought it, they can do whatever they want with their fans and they will not complain.

pieratsos · May 2019

cascarrabias wrote: »

If they didnt fix that before is because probably they were focussing their efforts in other tasks with more priority. It will eventually get fixed, just relax.

A new class working properly isn't a top priority? Wow just wow.

Androconium · May 2019

Casterial wrote: »

Haashhtaag wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

* I can hunt dragons
* I can rid big fat cat
* the zone is beatiful
* tanking with necromancer is beyond fun
* technically we are still in early release

Stop, just stop. Because someone gives you a black eye but helps you put make up on to cover the bruise doesn’t make them good. Same with ZOS. They built up this class and released it broke.

Whats broken on it? Also early access means early access. Judge it June 4th

Early access means "user testing phase". Otherwise, they'd have to generate test scripts and pay people.
We can't have that now..

I said I wouldn't pay for Morrowind chapter. I did and I regretted it.
I said I wouldn't pay for Summerset chapter. I did and I regretted it.
I have no regrets about my Elsweyr decision.

As for what I see, the release has been a success! More cash harvested from nodes of players.
Additionally some nodes will drop ESO+ subscription or Crown Store purchases.

They didn't have to kill any World Bugs to get to them, either.

sevomd69 · May 2019

sionIV wrote: »

cascarrabias wrote: »

If they didnt fix that before is because probably they were focussing their efforts in other tasks with more priority. It will eventually get fixed, just relax.

This is a problem with the gaming industry in general, and you're part of it IF you accept and defend this kind of behavior from the game publishers. It's not just a problem with ZOS, it's a problem with most game publishers nowadays. Games that obviously aren't fully completed yet, get sold at premium price. Instead of giving the game (developers) another couple of months to fix most of the issues, they get released in a broken state. Another prime example of this is Fallout 76.

We should not accept nor defend this practice.

Once again...someone I don't know telling me how to spend my money...never will understand this...

Lestorn · May 2019

@OP. First of all dude. Calm the literal F*** down. Secondly, instead of coming in here complaining like some self entitled, pompous fool, find a better way to express your concerns. Do you think for one moment, the devs, read past the insults? Nah bruh. They close the page and move on. Make a bullet list of errors or issues you find. Tell them why you feel it is an issue in a positive way, and then move on with playing the game. Otherwise, uninstall the game and move on with your life. Because we don't need sour people like you mucking up the community.

rpa · May 2019

I'll pay (or not) whatever it will be when its on sale. At that time whatever chapter bugs ZO$ will ever fix are fixed and hopefully at least some of the inevitable nerfs done. There is no hurry except for death of a poor. (Savonian proverb.)

Ixilith · May 2019

Facefister wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

* I can hunt dragons
* I can rid big fat cat
* the zone is beatiful
* tanking with necromancer is beyond fun
* technically we are still in early release

Now compare that amount of content with other MMO "chapters" for the same price.

While true, expansions in this game do seem abit smaller in scale, from games I’ve played I’m used to expansions releasing almost a entire new world.

You have to also remember though, in the expansions your only getting what they took out the base game, in early development the team would have basically pulled the world into set packages,

ESO took a different route releasing 90% of its entirety onto base game then releasing smaller parts in expansions, thus likely to remove the requirement to pay for expansions to play the game.

I was a little disappointed to see nothing new for classes though, a new weapon type would of been awesome to see.

So while it is smaller there is a understanding to kind of why I believe it comes from how many demand “p2w” the moment a expansion becomes necessary to core gameplay to be why Zos is taking this approach.

ArchMikem · May 2019

I paid money for the zone. I couldnt care less about the new class.

Ixilith · May 2019

VinayExile wrote: »

Chicharron wrote: »

VinayExile wrote: »

Chicharron wrote: »

VinayExile wrote: »

https://clips.twitch.tv/ElegantPlumpHamburgerFunRun
@ZOS_GinaBruno
the issue on this clip is NOT the only bug, there is at least 4 other breaking bugs for the class.
NOT TO MENTION THE REST OF THE 100 GAMEBREAKING BUGS THAT DENY GAMEPLAY.
how the actual hell, are you able to get away with something like this?
You tell us you know about it, but wont fix it untill next patch?

are you joking? this company should be raided by angry bosmer and get incapped silenced to be sued by nords and be stripped of asking people money for the crap you release.

and yes i am ranting, because these issues were listed on pts forums, and you pushed it live anyway.

Prepurchase Morrowind and i have never played with a Warden and i will never do it.
Prepurchase Elsweyr and i have never played with a Necromancer and i will never do it.

I'm happy with the two chapters.

Your opinion is not the same as everyone's, do not generalize.

Generalize? i dont generalize wth do you even mean, im talking about ZOS releasing broken content, that they KNEW was broken because it was adressed in the testing weeks of PTS.
Yet they just dont give a crap, just push out the DLC without fixing anything.

So everyone payed a minimum of 35$ for a not working class?

I give a F about Necromancer and im happy with the chapter.

you cant sell something that works 50%

Oh boi, you must be new to this genre. Nothing comes out in MMORPGs without problems lol

In WoW, with the demon hunter, your dash ability could instantly boot you out the game lmfao.

The reason this game gets patching and maintaince and more, is because they know bugs will arise just like every other damn MMORPG. Necromancer was never gonna be perfect on release

P.S Pts servers don’t have the layers of coding and more live does, which means a bug could be fixed on Pts and immediately punch the class in the gut on hitting live servers. There’s no real way to get a class onto a live server with 0 issues, because simply they’d have to replicate the live server onto Pts which would become too demanding.

This has been a problem in mmorpg industry for as long as it’s been around, and no company has managed to perfect the transitions from Pts to live.

It’s a mmorpg as a genre the games are flawed in some way, if they were flawless patching wouldn’t exist, if you can’t sit back and laugh at it when it goes wrong I really don’t know what to say to you, it’s a game

It’s annoying yes, but it is also quite funny, just report the bug and move on, it will be fixed.

Kalgert · May 2019

No idea what these "Hundreds and hundreds of bugs" are, Necros seem to work fine on my end, outside of Blastbones showing no combat text and feels like it deals less damage than supposed to.

So... No idea what you're going on about.

Imza · May 2019

Nothing in this world is perfect...

Vapirko · May 2019

Dawn Of The Dead Class

LiraTaurwen · May 2019

At this point what to you guys expect? Game has serious issues that ZoS doesn't care to solve for a long time lol it's only normal new expansion comes with issues too!
It's how gaming industry works sadly. It's ok though because most people will still defend them and, most important, still spend money on their cash shop.

darthgummibear_ESO · May 2019

Tasear wrote: »

* I can hunt dragons
* I can rid big fat cat
* the zone is beatiful
* tanking with necromancer is beyond fun
* technically we are still in early release

This is one train of logic that always baffles me. What are you going to do when most if not all of the bugs people have been complaining about the last few days are still around 6-months from now?

WoW had people going through this cycle of thinking every expansion.

Oh it's just alpha.
Oh it's just beta.
It just came out, give them time to patch it.
The X.1 update will fix it, you'll see.
The X.2 update will make everything better, everyone just loves to complain.
The next expansion should resolve everyone's issues!
Rinse and repeat.

Myself and a lot of others left that game and came here because we got entirely sick of waiting for things to get fixed with broken promises all while things continued to get worse.

oddbasket · May 2019

I bought the CE so my fat cat main can ride a fat cat mount.

Money well spent.

I take a long time to level alts, so likewise I'm enjoying the process with the necromancer by questing a bit here and there. Currently in her 20s, she does all right solo and in dungeons. She's slow but once you get the corpse consuming synergies going, she mows stuff down pretty well. Drawback is her mechanics means the playstyle is being set in static rotations which takes some of the fun out of the class.

Zone wise, I really love Murkmire and its story, barely started on Elsweyr but am ignoring the dragons zerging and just go about exploring slowly and questing. The scenery is like a less barren desert, I'm not wowed by it, by having cats everywhere is a plus.

So far not once have I regretted pre-ordering Elsweyr.

FluffyKitten · May 2019

darthgummibear_ESO wrote: »

What are you going to do when most if not all of the bugs people have been complaining about the last few days are still around 6-months from now?

Then I would understand the breakdown OP had, not on the release week.
Just chill and enjoy the new content while ZOS irons out the bugs and when/if some bugs are still around after months this is something we have to complain about then. They clearly know the issue so why stir up bad vibes when it wont help.

darthgummibear_ESO · May 2019

FluffyKitten wrote: »

darthgummibear_ESO wrote: »

What are you going to do when most if not all of the bugs people have been complaining about the last few days are still around 6-months from now?

Then I would understand the breakdown OP had, not on the release week.
Just chill and enjoy the new content while ZOS irons out the bugs and when/if some bugs are still around after months this is something we have to complain about then. They clearly know the issue so why stir up bad vibes when it wont help.

Because sticking your head in the sand is so useful.

Turelus · May 2019

I don't think we have the same meaning of "game breaking"

TragedyOA · May 2019

ApostateHobo wrote: »

Hopefully all these issues with the necro skills can be fixed somewhat easily. Just seems like things came out a bit janky and need some tweaking. I'm still waiting to actually get to play the class though since I'm on console, so this is based on what I've seen people reporting here on the forums.

one skill is not working properly,i'm having loads of fun playing my stamcro.

darthgummibear_ESO · May 2019

TragedyOA wrote: »

ApostateHobo wrote: »

Hopefully all these issues with the necro skills can be fixed somewhat easily. Just seems like things came out a bit janky and need some tweaking. I'm still waiting to actually get to play the class though since I'm on console, so this is based on what I've seen people reporting here on the forums.

one skill is not working properly,i'm having loads of fun playing my stamcro.

It's not just one skill. The entire corpse mechanic is buggy as hell.

FluffyKitten · May 2019

darthgummibear_ESO wrote: »

Because sticking your head in the sand is so useful.

If you have footage or other proof of bugs then send it directly to ZOS in a ticket and explain how it happen and if and how it is recreated.
Writing insults on the forum is as useful as *** on a fish while also bringing bad vibes.