Necro Blastbones Bug

HealsBadMan · May 2019

I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but when using blastbones and its morph I'm getting maybe 6k max damage from it even though the tooltip for it starts at 8.3k damage. I'm using the morph of blastbones and stand as far back as I can to cast and it's hitting 6k tops. Anyone with this issue or am I just confused about this ?

DisgracefulMind · May 2019

in PvE or PvP?

HealsBadMan · May 2019

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

in PvE or PvP?

PvE

DisgracefulMind · May 2019

HealsBadMan wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

in PvE or PvP?

PvE

I'm not able to get on to find out what's wrong with it atm, but it was bugged for 3 out of 4 cycles on the PTS, so it wouldn't surprise me if it made it to live bugged.

Gnozo · May 2019

It will always hit lower. Your target has some resistences that will reduce your damage.

Nazzraeda · May 2019

It clearly is hitting lower than intended. Every ability is hitting higher than it, even light attacks. Something is bugged with blastbones.

highkingnm · May 2019

I noticed this too. On PTS it was a solid damage source, live it hits like a wet noodle. Thought they’d just nerfed it hard until I checked the tooltip.

BlackMadara · May 2019

Have you factored in resistances? What is your pen?

Derra · May 2019

Gnozo wrote: »

It will always hit lower. Your target has some resistences that will reduce your damage.

It hits for half the dmg of flame skull currently while having almost double the tooltip. It´s definetly bugged.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Azramel · May 2019

Im seeing the same bug. The damage on my blast bones is inconsistent. First it hits for around 1k, then 2k, then 3k, then 5-6k, then it resets back to 1k. Meanwhile, my flame skull is hitting for over 10k. These are all non-crit btw.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

J18696 · May 2019

Nearly all the class skills had a bug attached to them during all pts weeks so not surprised

wheem_ESO · May 2019

Yea, it's definitely bugged. The tooltip is obviously a fair bit higher than the one for Flame Skull, but it actually hits for substantially less damage.

LordTareq · May 2019

Well obviously they didn't have time to fix the bugs discovered on the test server, after all they must have spend most of their man-hours on the many iterations of Incapacitating Strike and other NB abilities...

Skullstachio · May 2019

It is clear that there wasn’t enough penetration.

Outside Group Dungeons & Trials: enemies have at least 9100 resistances. (9125 counting selective resistances)

Within Group Dungeons and trials: enemies (bosses too) have about 18200 resistances. (18500 when taking selective resistances into the equation.)

Relatively, while actual damage may be stated in tooltips, unless you have some form of penetration (through certain passive skills, Armor sets, Cp’s and Debuffs) you may not be able to deal the full damage in that abilities tooltip. This is especially important when doing Group Dungeons and trials.

DocFrost72 · May 2019

Alpha-Lupi wrote: »

It is clear that there wasn’t enough penetration.

Outside Group Dungeons & Trials: enemies have at least 9100 resistances. (9125 counting selective resistances)

Within Group Dungeons and trials: enemies (bosses too) have about 18200 resistances. (18500 when taking selective resistances into the equation.)

Relatively, while actual damage may be stated in tooltips, unless you have some form of penetration (through certain passive skills, Armor sets, Cp’s and Debuffs) you may not be able to deal the full damage in that abilities tooltip. This is especially important when doing Group Dungeons and trials.

Can you explain how then that my venom skull (tooltip 9543) reaches noncrit dmg figure of 10,757 damage (on skeever) and blastbones hits for 6.3k damage (non crit) with a 9239 tooltip?

They are hitting the same mobs, meaning same resistances. Both my blastbones and the skull are stamina morphed. Why is one more than 100% of its tooltip in damage while the other deals 2/3 its damage, if it is not bugged?

@Alpha-Lupi

Better yet, can anyone confirm if ZOS has seen this?

wheem_ESO · May 2019

Alpha-Lupi wrote: »

It is clear that there wasn’t enough penetration.

Outside Group Dungeons & Trials: enemies have at least 9100 resistances. (9125 counting selective resistances)

Within Group Dungeons and trials: enemies (bosses too) have about 18200 resistances. (18500 when taking selective resistances into the equation.)

Relatively, while actual damage may be stated in tooltips, unless you have some form of penetration (through certain passive skills, Armor sets, Cp’s and Debuffs) you may not be able to deal the full damage in that abilities tooltip. This is especially important when doing Group Dungeons and trials.

None of that explains why the Blastbones is dealing less damage than Ricochet Skull vs the exact same enemies, despite having higher tooltip damage.

Mr_Nobody · May 2019

Its live, you think they are going to care? lul

Most templars rerolled and are eating the same ****

John_Falstaff · May 2019

Might it happen, then, that it's the skill that is bugged instead? Because, provided that the testing is accurate (no special buffs only applied in combat but not while reading the tooltip), and all other bonuses (CP and all) are already factored into the tooltip, then skull shouldn't non-critically hit a target with resistances for higher damage than its tooltip value.

Maulkin · May 2019

Reporting the same. Extremely inconsistent dmg with Blastbones but consistently lower than Flame Skull while having higher tooltip. Something is definitely bugged with the skill.

Maulkin · May 2019

John_Falstaff wrote: »

Might it happen, then, that it's the skill that is bugged instead? Because, provided that the testing is accurate (no special buffs only applied in combat but not while reading the tooltip), and all other bonuses (CP and all) are already factored into the tooltip, then skull shouldn't non-critically hit a target with resistances for higher damage than its tooltip value.

Whether Flame Skull itself is bugged or not, Blastbones is regularly criting skeevers (minimal armor) for less than half it’s tooltip.

There’s no logical explanation for that.

DocFrost72 · May 2019

John_Falstaff wrote: »

Might it happen, then, that it's the skill that is bugged instead? Because, provided that the testing is accurate (no special buffs only applied in combat but not while reading the tooltip), and all other bonuses (CP and all) are already factored into the tooltip, then skull shouldn't non-critically hit a target with resistances for higher damage than its tooltip value.

Perhaps you can go target overland skeever mobs like I did? There's some on kenarthi's roost. Use any skill, take its tooltip, and see what it does to them with non critical strikes.

I'd do it myself but I am at work, and I'm already 99% sure it is blastbones that is bugged.

katorga · May 2019

I haven't started tracking actual damage yet, but I cannot even tell when it does damage. The skull takes a visible chunk of health off targets. Many times Blastbones doesn't even hit the target and when it does it does about half the damage of the Skull. Base, unmorphed skill on both.

Apoxsee · May 2019

It is bugged! Hitting the same mobs with light attacks, flame skull and blast bones. All attacks minus the blast bones are doing dmg correctly given crit, pent and resistance of the targeted mob. Blast bones seems to be doing 50% ish less dmg than tooltip. Something is broken with it.

Astraous · May 2019

John_Falstaff wrote: »

Might it happen, then, that it's the skill that is bugged instead? Because, provided that the testing is accurate (no special buffs only applied in combat but not while reading the tooltip), and all other bonuses (CP and all) are already factored into the tooltip, then skull shouldn't non-critically hit a target with resistances for higher damage than its tooltip value.

While an argument can be made that the skull and scythe shouldn’t be hitting as much as they are (though I’m 99% sure they aren’t bugged and it’s just passive boosts), blastbones is 100% undeniably broken. This skill takes 2.5 seconds to wind up and does less than a single light attacks worth of damage. This is clearly unintended, regardless of other skills and their damage.

cpuScientist · May 2019

@ZOS_GinaBruno Any news on a possible hotfix for this issue. The skill is bugged on live for a lot of people.

LiquidPony · May 2019

Besides the obviously bugged damage, I'm also seeing that my Blighted Blastbones (and the unmorphed version) are not reporting damage numbers via the in-game UI.

Blighted Blastbones has lower damage than Venom Skull despite a higher tooltip:

Blight Blastbones is not reporting damage done via the in-game damage reporting UI:

https://youtu.be/uHs4x3P24Xk

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Gilliam

cpuScientist · May 2019

LiquidPony wrote: »

Besides the obviously bugged damage, I'm also seeing that my Blighted Blastbones (and the unmorphed version) are not reporting damage numbers via the in-game UI.

Blighted Blastbones has lower damage than Venom Skull despite a higher tooltip:

Blight Blastbones is not reporting damage done via the in-game damage reporting UI:
https://youtu.be/uHs4x3P24Xk

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Gilliam

Do you have pet damage enabled. It does show in the base game UI if you have pet damage enabled. As in the numbers that float over right?

But yes blastbones damage is broken bad please fix! @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Ahlteffour · May 2019

LiquidPony wrote: »

Besides the obviously bugged damage, I'm also seeing that my Blighted Blastbones (and the unmorphed version) are not reporting damage numbers via the in-game UI.

Blighted Blastbones has lower damage than Venom Skull despite a higher tooltip:

Blight Blastbones is not reporting damage done via the in-game damage reporting UI:
https://youtu.be/uHs4x3P24Xk

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Gilliam

The damage for blastbones seems to report just fine for me. Might need to enable pet damage. However, the damage I can also confirm is much less than it should be.

Also to add a side note. If you summon a blastbones and your enemy dies before it explodes, the thing just stands there. If you attack something else, it should also figure out "hey, i should run over there".

jypcy · May 2019

Ahlteffour wrote: »

LiquidPony wrote: »

Besides the obviously bugged damage, I'm also seeing that my Blighted Blastbones (and the unmorphed version) are not reporting damage numbers via the in-game UI.

Blighted Blastbones has lower damage than Venom Skull despite a higher tooltip:

Blight Blastbones is not reporting damage done via the in-game damage reporting UI:
https://youtu.be/uHs4x3P24Xk

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Gilliam

The damage for blastbones seems to report just fine for me. Might need to enable pet damage. However, the damage I can also confirm is much less than it should be.

Also to add a side note. If you summon a blastbones and your enemy dies before it explodes, the thing just stands there. If you attack something else, it should also figure out "hey, i should run over there".

This is just anecdotal because I haven’t bothered to set up UI for my Necro yet, but in my experience too for both pve and PvP blastbones does underwhelming damage compared to the skull. Stam morphs for both.

Re: targeting, though, mine seem to be tracking new targets if the original one dies. I’ll try to pay more attention when I play tonight, but I certainly thought I saw the little guy run elsewhere/Elsweyr if I finished off its target before it could (but was still in combat with something else). Could just be something with the buggy pet AI where it’s inconsistent, though.

Ahlteffour · May 2019

This is just anecdotal because I haven’t bothered to set up UI for my Necro yet, but I’m my experience too for both pve and PvP blastbones does underwhelming damage compared to the skull. Stam morphs for both.

Re: targeting, though, mine seem to be tracking new targets if the original one dies. I’ll try to pay more attention when I play tonight, but I certainly thought I saw the little guy run elsewhere/Elsweyr if I finished off its target before it could (but was still in combat with something else). Could just be something with the buggy pet AI where it’s inconsistent, though.[/quote]

Its good to hear blastbones re-targets for someone else. I couldn't get any consistency out of it but I only got a few hours in. Hoping that changes.

When I played PTS, the mag morph for blastbones hit like a truck. The damage I am seeing significantly less. As it stands right now this skill is hardly worth casting unless you are using it for the quick corpse generation.

technohic · May 2019

I was wondering how I heard about how hard this hit to see it hit for practically nothing for a delayed ability