good question. would like to know too.
so if ur wep damage is 100, will it be
1. 133
2. 166
3. 199
or
1. 133
2. 177
3. 235
Savos_Saren wrote: »So, remember, this is naked, no jewelry, no weapons, no CP (I had to put 64 points into magicka, though. I can't cast too many abilities while naked):
Whip damage with no stacks of "seething": 1529 on tooltip. Actual base damage on 3m target dummy: 972
1 stack of seething: 2210. Actual base damage on dummy: 1406
2 stacks of seething: 2979 Actual base damage on dummy: 1875
3 stacks of seething (maxed out): 3836 Actual base damage on dummy: 2440
Savos_Saren wrote: »Since I'm on liberty- I can take a moment to "beef up" this Dunmer with a bunch of flat-based value sets that will maximize the flame damage from the whip (like I said I would) and give him an unrealistic setup.
How about Innate (400 spell damage), Silks (400 spell damage), and Slimecraw (flat 8% damage increase) with all gold jewelry all spell damage enchantments and the Apprentice (spell damage) mundus? Do you want Divines or Impen on the armor? 5 light, 1 medium, 1 heavy? Nirnhoned legendary Inferno Staff? This, of course, would have no regen- but I'm willing to accommodate you.
Or do you want me to model him after something more realistic that a NB or Sorc would be running? Spinners? Bright Throat (can't run Necromancer... no pets)?
Savos_Saren wrote: »So, remember, this is naked, no jewelry, no weapons, no CP (I had to put 64 points into magicka, though. I can't cast too many abilities while naked):
Whip damage with no stacks of "seething": 1529 on tooltip. Actual base damage on 3m target dummy: 972
1 stack of seething: 2210. Actual base damage on dummy: 1406
2 stacks of seething: 2979 Actual base damage on dummy: 1875
3 stacks of seething (maxed out): 3836 Actual base damage on dummy: 2440
@Savos_Saren Can you post your base stats please? Meaning max mag & spell damage.
I'm guessing 15062 & zero respectively?
I need those stats to control for the effect of the +375 WD/SD, since it is currently confounding the effect of the +99% (since they both influence the final damage numbers).
Savos_Saren wrote: »Hopefully this helps.
Out of curiosity- do you want to know what Crystal Frags and Spectral Bow hit for on a target dummy? I can give you the same setup: Naked Dunmer, 64 points into Magicka, 100 CP into Master at Arms and Elemental Expert.
I'm curious to see for myself.
Perfect @Savos_Saren . Results are pretty conclusive in favour of additive stacking.
375 SD makes your base tooltip increase by a factor of 1.217x, so controlling for the unstacked actual damage value:
1633/1.4 * 1.217 = 1420
To simulate additive stacking:
1420 * 2.39 = 3393.8
Almost exactly the actual damage value you obtained for 3 stacks.
Very good info to have—it also means that Molten Whip won't be as overpowered as I initially feared (since additive stacking is much more tame compared to multiplicative. Thanks for the rigourous testing on my behalf.
so for stamDK who wants to slot it just for Seething Fury, what happens? 3x Nox breath will max the stack, but it resets only when u actually use the whip, right?
WrathOfInnos wrote: »So additive with itself, and multiplicative with other % bonuses like CPs?