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Xynode Builds
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Peekachu99✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Not a huge fan of his ideas around healing, he tells people not to use lightning staves or Infallible Aether, even though healers have shown both things are good. Most healers will have succes running IA even in normal trials. As for his dps builds, they're alright. Often they take a lot less effort to perfect and delivers enough damage to clear the sort of content they are made for. I would'nt really take him as a source for something even remotely meta or best in slot, but that does not seem to be what he is going for.. I consider it a positive that you can do builds like Xynode is and still have succes relative to the content you're doing, I would say most people would find more succes with his builds if they just want to have fun and do their daily pledges, than to straight up copy an Alcast trial build. I would'nt ever run one of his builds, but then again I would'nt run anything that is'nt best in slot.
What a patronizing response.
It’s always easier to be a patronizing critic than it is to do it yourself. Props to Xynode and all the other content creators.10 -
In addition to his build videos, I must say his "All About Mechanics" playlist is hands down the best dungeon guides out there. I used to be terrified to run DLC or VET content but his guides gave me confidence to try. The level of detail he gives is just astounding.
@xynode Keep up the good work man! Hopefully you can release Trial guides whenever u have some spare time!6 -
TheInfernalRage✭✭✭✭✭Not a huge fan of his ideas around healing, he tells people not to use lightning staves or Infallible Aether, even though healers have shown both things are good. Most healers will have succes running IA even in normal trials. As for his dps builds, they're alright. Often they take a lot less effort to perfect and delivers enough damage to clear the sort of content they are made for. I would'nt really take him as a source for something even remotely meta or best in slot, but that does not seem to be what he is going for.. I consider it a positive that you can do builds like Xynode is and still have succes relative to the content you're doing, I would say most people would find more succes with his builds if they just want to have fun and do their daily pledges, than to straight up copy an Alcast trial build. I would'nt ever run one of his builds, but then again I would'nt run anything that is'nt best in slot.
What a patronizing response.
Some people are frightened by the notion that there isn't a single 'best in slot' build in ESO as there are in other games. Suggesting that other builds provide within 1% of the performance of the build they believe is best is a direct threat to the time they invested in collecting the items they believe to be best.
Reminds me of when a religious meets an atheist.Edited by TheInfernalRage on May 16, 2019 3:25PM6 -
Wildberryjack✭✭✭✭✭
✭I can't get his site to work, nothing is clickable.The purpose of art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls. ~Pablo Picasso1 -
Asardes✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭They are really useful for newer players since he explains everything in detail. It gives you to skip that part of the video where he explains the skills and passives if you want. Also few people don't actually realize how small the differences between various setups are , especially when you don't have the practice to get everything out of the META gear. Sometimes it's actually better to gear yourself reasonably in a much shorter time, and instead of grinding certain content on normal to get the said META gear, you can go and start progressing directly Veteran and gear yourself on the way. Personally I'm not very experienced at DD roles, having played mainly tank, and secondly healer, so I don't strive to gear my DDs with the newest stuff. In fact rotation and knowledge of mechanics are 10x more important than gear.Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
vMA (The Flawless Conqueror) | vVH (Spirit Slayer & of the Undying Song) | vDSA | vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL | vAS+1 | Emperor
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41,000+ Achievement Points before High IsleMember of:
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Characters:
Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |
Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |
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Characters:
Asardes the Exile | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 30 |5 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Peekachu99 wrote: »Not a huge fan of his ideas around healing, he tells people not to use lightning staves or Infallible Aether, even though healers have shown both things are good. Most healers will have succes running IA even in normal trials. As for his dps builds, they're alright. Often they take a lot less effort to perfect and delivers enough damage to clear the sort of content they are made for. I would'nt really take him as a source for something even remotely meta or best in slot, but that does not seem to be what he is going for.. I consider it a positive that you can do builds like Xynode is and still have succes relative to the content you're doing, I would say most people would find more succes with his builds if they just want to have fun and do their daily pledges, than to straight up copy an Alcast trial build. I would'nt ever run one of his builds, but then again I would'nt run anything that is'nt best in slot.
What a patronizing response.
It’s always easier to be a patronizing critic than it is to do it yourself. Props to Xynode and all the other content creators.
Agreed. Keep doing what you’re doing, Xynode. Thanks also for helping the majority, and not catering to the minority who do nothing but vet trial HM leaderboard runs.8 -
phileunderx2✭✭✭✭✭
✭Major props to Xynode. Tons of great builds and lots of information on how sets and skills work together. I really appreciate how he teaches players that there isn't just one way to accomplish your in game goals and that BIS is best in sandwiches 😛4 -
ArchangelIsraphel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I just checked out Xynode's site thanks to seeing this thread pop up. How have I missed this until now? I really enjoy the positive attitude behind the way things are explained in detail on their pages and am looking forwards to watching some of the videos later. The builds look more fun than the Alcast ones I've been trying to run where so many of the skills used on every class are the same.
I cant wait to see what Xynode does for necromancer builds!Legends never die
They're written down in eternity
But you'll never see the price it costs
The scars collected all their lives
When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
Legends never die6 -
mairwen85✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭@ArchangelIsraphel xynode does tend to focus on class skills that provide identity to his builds, rather than weapon/guild skills - - one of the things you'll hear him say or read in his notes quite often is that he chooses skills that give reason to play a specific class, or, indeed, play vampire for example. He picks sets that compliment that philosophy to achieve the best results. In many ways that is the very essence of what makes a xynode build, and how they can work within 1 or 2 % of the meta.
Agree or disagree, but in my experience console and pc play differently (player experience, responsiveness, qol). Certain classes (sorc, dk) I will pick a xynode build over an alcast build for that reason on xbox.Edited by mairwen85 on May 16, 2019 4:46PM3 -
dogman✭✭✭✭OMG everyone how have i only just seen this?
I was just shown this link by a friend. Completely humbled, thank you all so much!
You know what will humble you even more? Don't forget to hit @iamdogman for PCEU carries.i'm just tryna have a good time0 -
Mrslizardface✭✭✭OMG everyone how have i only just seen this?
I was just shown this link by a friend. Completely humbled, thank you all so much!
You know what will humble you even more? Don't forget to hit @iamdogman for PCEU carries.
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ArchangelIsraphel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@ArchangelIsraphel xynode does tend to focus on class skills that provide identity to his builds, rather than weapon skills - - one of the things you'll hear him say or read in his notes quite often is that he chooses skills that give reason to play a specific class, or, indeed, play vampire for example. He picks sets that compliment that philosophy to achieve the best results. In many ways that is the very essence of what makes a xynode build, and how they can work within 1 or 2 % of the meta.
Agree or disagree, but in my experience console and pc play differently (player experience, responsiveness, qol). Certain classes (sorc, dk) I will pick a xynode build over an alcast build for that reason on xbox.
That's what I'm liking about everything I'm seeing. The classes actually feel unique. I'm thinking of respeccing my NB completely after seeing this because I'm just not having fun with his alcast build, and I feel like I could enjoy him more trying out Xynode's builds.
I've never played on Xbox, only on PC, but I think I'll enjoy it on PC just as much
Side note to fans of alcast builds that I'm not trying to insult alcast or anything- those guides have been useful to me as well. I just don't enjoy the style of gameplay I'm getting out of them at all and my mele characters feel really stagnant in terms of skills and animations. These look so much more dynamic. I might even pick up the DK I abandoned ages ago again.
Legends never die
They're written down in eternity
But you'll never see the price it costs
The scars collected all their lives
When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
Legends never die3 -
Mrslizardface✭✭✭Not a huge fan of his ideas around healing, he tells people not to use lightning staves or Infallible Aether, even though healers have shown both things are good. Most healers will have succes running IA even in normal trials. As for his dps builds, they're alright. Often they take a lot less effort to perfect and delivers enough damage to clear the sort of content they are made for. I would'nt really take him as a source for something even remotely meta or best in slot, but that does not seem to be what he is going for.. I consider it a positive that you can do builds like Xynode is and still have succes relative to the content you're doing, I would say most people would find more succes with his builds if they just want to have fun and do their daily pledges, than to straight up copy an Alcast trial build. I would'nt ever run one of his builds, but then again I would'nt run anything that is'nt best in slot.
What a patronizing response.
It's really not.. Even though he is one of the best Healers in the game, what he's saying is completely true. Xynode tells not to use IA and other good builds and when asked why not has no evidence to back it up. He just seems to have a hatred for anything considered meta6 -
kathandira✭✭✭✭✭
✭ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »@ArchangelIsraphel xynode does tend to focus on class skills that provide identity to his builds, rather than weapon skills - - one of the things you'll hear him say or read in his notes quite often is that he chooses skills that give reason to play a specific class, or, indeed, play vampire for example. He picks sets that compliment that philosophy to achieve the best results. In many ways that is the very essence of what makes a xynode build, and how they can work within 1 or 2 % of the meta.
Agree or disagree, but in my experience console and pc play differently (player experience, responsiveness, qol). Certain classes (sorc, dk) I will pick a xynode build over an alcast build for that reason on xbox.
That's what I'm liking about everything I'm seeing. The classes actually feel unique. I'm thinking of respeccing my NB completely after seeing this because I'm just not having fun with his alcast build, and I feel like I could enjoy him more trying out Xynode's builds.
I've never played on Xbox, only on PC, but I think I'll enjoy it on PC just as much
Side note to fans of alcast builds that I'm not trying to insult alcast or anything- those guides have been useful to me as well. I just don't enjoy the style of gameplay I'm getting out of them at all and my mele characters feel really stagnant in terms of skills and animations. These look so much more dynamic. I might even pick up the DK I abandoned ages ago again.
Alcasts build seem to be built with the intention that the entire Trial group is creating their builds with complete synergy. They work best when everyone has the other team mates in mind when coordinating their builds. It is the Pro technique.
If I were in a scoreboard chasing guild, I would absolutely be using builds like his. But since my guild doesn't coordinate like that, I make builds with the assumption that I may not get all the buffs that I need to perform to my best ability. So in his build where he doesn't slot a certain buff, I do so I can at least be 100% sure I will be getting it.
To me, it seems that is the difference between the two build creators. They are built for different audiences.PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc9 -
Secilina✭✭Mrslizardface wrote: »Not a huge fan of his ideas around healing, he tells people not to use lightning staves or Infallible Aether, even though healers have shown both things are good. Most healers will have succes running IA even in normal trials. As for his dps builds, they're alright. Often they take a lot less effort to perfect and delivers enough damage to clear the sort of content they are made for. I would'nt really take him as a source for something even remotely meta or best in slot, but that does not seem to be what he is going for.. I consider it a positive that you can do builds like Xynode is and still have succes relative to the content you're doing, I would say most people would find more succes with his builds if they just want to have fun and do their daily pledges, than to straight up copy an Alcast trial build. I would'nt ever run one of his builds, but then again I would'nt run anything that is'nt best in slot.
What a patronizing response.
It's really not.. Even though he is one of the best Healers in the game, what he's saying is completely true. Xynode tells not to use IA and other good builds and when asked why not has no evidence to back it up. He just seems to have a hatred for anything considered meta
vma daggers is becoming meta quick hide
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mairwen85✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭kathandira wrote: »ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »@ArchangelIsraphel xynode does tend to focus on class skills that provide identity to his builds, rather than weapon skills - - one of the things you'll hear him say or read in his notes quite often is that he chooses skills that give reason to play a specific class, or, indeed, play vampire for example. He picks sets that compliment that philosophy to achieve the best results. In many ways that is the very essence of what makes a xynode build, and how they can work within 1 or 2 % of the meta.
Agree or disagree, but in my experience console and pc play differently (player experience, responsiveness, qol). Certain classes (sorc, dk) I will pick a xynode build over an alcast build for that reason on xbox.
That's what I'm liking about everything I'm seeing. The classes actually feel unique. I'm thinking of respeccing my NB completely after seeing this because I'm just not having fun with his alcast build, and I feel like I could enjoy him more trying out Xynode's builds.
I've never played on Xbox, only on PC, but I think I'll enjoy it on PC just as much
Side note to fans of alcast builds that I'm not trying to insult alcast or anything- those guides have been useful to me as well. I just don't enjoy the style of gameplay I'm getting out of them at all and my mele characters feel really stagnant in terms of skills and animations. These look so much more dynamic. I might even pick up the DK I abandoned ages ago again.
Alcasts build seem to be built with the intention that the entire Trial group is creating their builds with complete synergy. They work best when everyone has the other team mates in mind when coordinating their builds. It is the Pro technique.
If I were in a scoreboard chasing guild, I would absolutely be using builds like his. But since my guild doesn't coordinate like that, I make builds with the assumption that I may not get all the buffs that I need to perform to my best ability. So in his build where he doesn't slot a certain buff, I do so I can at least be 100% sure I will be getting it.
To me, it seems that is the difference between the two build creators. They are built for different audiences.
Very good point. Xynode tends to build on self sufficiency, Alcast and others (Dottz, etc) on group synergy and coordination. There is a place for both philisophies, and neither outweighs the other except for niche requirement.
Part of enjoying this game is exploring that, and the more voices the better.4 -
kathandira✭✭✭✭✭
✭kathandira wrote: »ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »@ArchangelIsraphel xynode does tend to focus on class skills that provide identity to his builds, rather than weapon skills - - one of the things you'll hear him say or read in his notes quite often is that he chooses skills that give reason to play a specific class, or, indeed, play vampire for example. He picks sets that compliment that philosophy to achieve the best results. In many ways that is the very essence of what makes a xynode build, and how they can work within 1 or 2 % of the meta.
Agree or disagree, but in my experience console and pc play differently (player experience, responsiveness, qol). Certain classes (sorc, dk) I will pick a xynode build over an alcast build for that reason on xbox.
That's what I'm liking about everything I'm seeing. The classes actually feel unique. I'm thinking of respeccing my NB completely after seeing this because I'm just not having fun with his alcast build, and I feel like I could enjoy him more trying out Xynode's builds.
I've never played on Xbox, only on PC, but I think I'll enjoy it on PC just as much
Side note to fans of alcast builds that I'm not trying to insult alcast or anything- those guides have been useful to me as well. I just don't enjoy the style of gameplay I'm getting out of them at all and my mele characters feel really stagnant in terms of skills and animations. These look so much more dynamic. I might even pick up the DK I abandoned ages ago again.
Alcasts build seem to be built with the intention that the entire Trial group is creating their builds with complete synergy. They work best when everyone has the other team mates in mind when coordinating their builds. It is the Pro technique.
If I were in a scoreboard chasing guild, I would absolutely be using builds like his. But since my guild doesn't coordinate like that, I make builds with the assumption that I may not get all the buffs that I need to perform to my best ability. So in his build where he doesn't slot a certain buff, I do so I can at least be 100% sure I will be getting it.
To me, it seems that is the difference between the two build creators. They are built for different audiences.
Very good point. Xynode tends to build on self sufficiency, Alcast and others (Dottz, etc) on group synergy and coordination. There is a place for both philisophies, and neither outweighs the other except for niche requirement.
Part of enjoying this game is exploring that, and the more voices the better.
100% Agreed.
Reading this has made me consider creating videos for fun builds for the bottom half of the player base. The Non-Vet Trials players. Fun stuff that is actually effective. Sort of a Deltia Revival. There are so many fun ways to build characters that can capitalize on their identity that i'd like to see more of it.PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc3 -
mairwen85✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭kathandira wrote: »kathandira wrote: »ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »@ArchangelIsraphel xynode does tend to focus on class skills that provide identity to his builds, rather than weapon skills - - one of the things you'll hear him say or read in his notes quite often is that he chooses skills that give reason to play a specific class, or, indeed, play vampire for example. He picks sets that compliment that philosophy to achieve the best results. In many ways that is the very essence of what makes a xynode build, and how they can work within 1 or 2 % of the meta.
Agree or disagree, but in my experience console and pc play differently (player experience, responsiveness, qol). Certain classes (sorc, dk) I will pick a xynode build over an alcast build for that reason on xbox.
That's what I'm liking about everything I'm seeing. The classes actually feel unique. I'm thinking of respeccing my NB completely after seeing this because I'm just not having fun with his alcast build, and I feel like I could enjoy him more trying out Xynode's builds.
I've never played on Xbox, only on PC, but I think I'll enjoy it on PC just as much
Side note to fans of alcast builds that I'm not trying to insult alcast or anything- those guides have been useful to me as well. I just don't enjoy the style of gameplay I'm getting out of them at all and my mele characters feel really stagnant in terms of skills and animations. These look so much more dynamic. I might even pick up the DK I abandoned ages ago again.
Alcasts build seem to be built with the intention that the entire Trial group is creating their builds with complete synergy. They work best when everyone has the other team mates in mind when coordinating their builds. It is the Pro technique.
If I were in a scoreboard chasing guild, I would absolutely be using builds like his. But since my guild doesn't coordinate like that, I make builds with the assumption that I may not get all the buffs that I need to perform to my best ability. So in his build where he doesn't slot a certain buff, I do so I can at least be 100% sure I will be getting it.
To me, it seems that is the difference between the two build creators. They are built for different audiences.
Very good point. Xynode tends to build on self sufficiency, Alcast and others (Dottz, etc) on group synergy and coordination. There is a place for both philisophies, and neither outweighs the other except for niche requirement.
Part of enjoying this game is exploring that, and the more voices the better.
100% Agreed.
Reading this has made me consider creating videos for fun builds for the bottom half of the player base. The Non-Vet Trials players. Fun stuff that is actually effective. Sort of a Deltia Revival. There are so many fun ways to build characters that can capitalize on their identity that i'd like to see more of it.
I weep for Deltia... Helped me so much in the early days.2 -
kathandira✭✭✭✭✭
✭kathandira wrote: »kathandira wrote: »ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »@ArchangelIsraphel xynode does tend to focus on class skills that provide identity to his builds, rather than weapon skills - - one of the things you'll hear him say or read in his notes quite often is that he chooses skills that give reason to play a specific class, or, indeed, play vampire for example. He picks sets that compliment that philosophy to achieve the best results. In many ways that is the very essence of what makes a xynode build, and how they can work within 1 or 2 % of the meta.
Agree or disagree, but in my experience console and pc play differently (player experience, responsiveness, qol). Certain classes (sorc, dk) I will pick a xynode build over an alcast build for that reason on xbox.
That's what I'm liking about everything I'm seeing. The classes actually feel unique. I'm thinking of respeccing my NB completely after seeing this because I'm just not having fun with his alcast build, and I feel like I could enjoy him more trying out Xynode's builds.
I've never played on Xbox, only on PC, but I think I'll enjoy it on PC just as much
Side note to fans of alcast builds that I'm not trying to insult alcast or anything- those guides have been useful to me as well. I just don't enjoy the style of gameplay I'm getting out of them at all and my mele characters feel really stagnant in terms of skills and animations. These look so much more dynamic. I might even pick up the DK I abandoned ages ago again.
Alcasts build seem to be built with the intention that the entire Trial group is creating their builds with complete synergy. They work best when everyone has the other team mates in mind when coordinating their builds. It is the Pro technique.
If I were in a scoreboard chasing guild, I would absolutely be using builds like his. But since my guild doesn't coordinate like that, I make builds with the assumption that I may not get all the buffs that I need to perform to my best ability. So in his build where he doesn't slot a certain buff, I do so I can at least be 100% sure I will be getting it.
To me, it seems that is the difference between the two build creators. They are built for different audiences.
Very good point. Xynode tends to build on self sufficiency, Alcast and others (Dottz, etc) on group synergy and coordination. There is a place for both philisophies, and neither outweighs the other except for niche requirement.
Part of enjoying this game is exploring that, and the more voices the better.
100% Agreed.
Reading this has made me consider creating videos for fun builds for the bottom half of the player base. The Non-Vet Trials players. Fun stuff that is actually effective. Sort of a Deltia Revival. There are so many fun ways to build characters that can capitalize on their identity that i'd like to see more of it.
I weep for Deltia... Helped me so much in the early days.
For real! Me too! I loved his builds, they were a ton of fun and super interesting. Not all of them were great performers, but for simple content they were a blast to play.
If I do this, and I really am considering it, it would be simply about hitting the 20k mark on a 3m dummy. Just something that can get players through Vet Dungeons and Normal Trials while being contributes. It would be for those who have a hard time getting above that 10k mark. Since we have many immigrants from WoW coming over, I think it could be nice for people looking for a starting point.PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc2 -
Kalgert✭✭✭✭✭
I guess it's even easier to be a patronizing *** towards people who made a pretty valid comment.Peekachu99 wrote: »Not a huge fan of his ideas around healing, he tells people not to use lightning staves or Infallible Aether, even though healers have shown both things are good. Most healers will have succes running IA even in normal trials. As for his dps builds, they're alright. Often they take a lot less effort to perfect and delivers enough damage to clear the sort of content they are made for. I would'nt really take him as a source for something even remotely meta or best in slot, but that does not seem to be what he is going for.. I consider it a positive that you can do builds like Xynode is and still have succes relative to the content you're doing, I would say most people would find more succes with his builds if they just want to have fun and do their daily pledges, than to straight up copy an Alcast trial build. I would'nt ever run one of his builds, but then again I would'nt run anything that is'nt best in slot.
What a patronizing response.
It’s always easier to be a patronizing critic than it is to do it yourself. Props to Xynode and all the other content creators.
I read through that comment quite a few times. It's not a terrible comment at all. You and that Aurielle are the ones being patronizing here.1 -
Kalgert✭✭✭✭✭
Oh, while you're here:OMG everyone how have i only just seen this?
I was just shown this link by a friend. Completely humbled, thank you all so much!
Make your website not look so terrible. I tried looking through it, but I couldn't get over the fact that the damn Elsweyr logo is making some text harder to read through, so I had to copy-paste it to even get a better read at it (Which didn't work out so well).
And I don't think that is something that should be done EVER.Edited by Kalgert on May 16, 2019 5:22PM0 -
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✭✭The reason why most ‘end-game’ builds fail in practice is because rarely are the people using them involved in top-tier, organized end game content. That’s not how the vast majority of us spend our playtime. You can complete 99% of this game’s low to high end with builds that are completely off the wall and unique and still push massive dps/ sustain/ mitigation/ whatever.
In the end, a game should be fun and you should feel attached to your character. I think that’s why non-meta builds resonate with the playerbase (which is the 99%, not the 1%).Edited by Peekachu99 on May 16, 2019 5:48PM5 -
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I guess it's even easier to be a patronizing *** towards people who made a pretty valid comment.Peekachu99 wrote: »Not a huge fan of his ideas around healing, he tells people not to use lightning staves or Infallible Aether, even though healers have shown both things are good. Most healers will have succes running IA even in normal trials. As for his dps builds, they're alright. Often they take a lot less effort to perfect and delivers enough damage to clear the sort of content they are made for. I would'nt really take him as a source for something even remotely meta or best in slot, but that does not seem to be what he is going for.. I consider it a positive that you can do builds like Xynode is and still have succes relative to the content you're doing, I would say most people would find more succes with his builds if they just want to have fun and do their daily pledges, than to straight up copy an Alcast trial build. I would'nt ever run one of his builds, but then again I would'nt run anything that is'nt best in slot.
What a patronizing response.
It’s always easier to be a patronizing critic than it is to do it yourself. Props to Xynode and all the other content creators.
I read through that comment quite a few times. It's not a terrible comment at all. You and that Aurielle are the ones being patronizing here.
It’s a completely snide and side-of-the-mouth commentary and I’m surprised you can’t see that. “He tells people to not use such and such, which you can do... (if your’e an idiot)...I wouldn’t ever run one of this builds, but then again I only run BEST IN SLOT. RAWR MUH DEEPS IS GODTIER!
It’s not even a matter of reading between the lines when he(?) didn’t criticize with any subtlety. Point still stands that there are critics and there are creators, and one of those things takes more bravery and deserves more accolades than the other.
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
― Theodore Roosevelt
If you think you’re wiser than him then this conversation is over.12 -
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✭✭Whether you like his builds or not, you have to admit that Xynode does a fantastic job explaining why something works the way that it does. This is very important for newer players to understand game mechanics and how to properly theory crafting.7 -
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✭✭I don't know why anyone would be critical of others who contribute such effort in offering their ideas and opinions toward ESO builds, guides, and game play. I'm an Alcast follower too, but I think Xynode has done a fantastic job in offering some well thought-out and explained alternatives. His explanation and demonstration of the StamBlade rotation was enormously helpful to me. Props to him and all others who offer to help us out.3 -
iLLcrime✭✭✭✭Not a huge fan of his ideas around healing, he tells people not to use lightning staves or Infallible Aether, even though healers have shown both things are good. Most healers will have succes running IA even in normal trials.
Where is he telling people not to use IA or Lightning staves? Asking for a friend..I put on my robe and wizard hat3 -
Heelie✭✭✭✭✭Not a huge fan of his ideas around healing, he tells people not to use lightning staves or Infallible Aether, even though healers have shown both things are good. Most healers will have succes running IA even in normal trials.
Where is he telling people not to use IA or Lightning staves? Asking for a friend..
He has mentioned it several times, most recent on his warden healer build but there are several occasions.Most OwOrated healer of all time1 -
Dottzgaming✭✭✭✭✭kathandira wrote: »ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »@ArchangelIsraphel xynode does tend to focus on class skills that provide identity to his builds, rather than weapon skills - - one of the things you'll hear him say or read in his notes quite often is that he chooses skills that give reason to play a specific class, or, indeed, play vampire for example. He picks sets that compliment that philosophy to achieve the best results. In many ways that is the very essence of what makes a xynode build, and how they can work within 1 or 2 % of the meta.
Agree or disagree, but in my experience console and pc play differently (player experience, responsiveness, qol). Certain classes (sorc, dk) I will pick a xynode build over an alcast build for that reason on xbox.
That's what I'm liking about everything I'm seeing. The classes actually feel unique. I'm thinking of respeccing my NB completely after seeing this because I'm just not having fun with his alcast build, and I feel like I could enjoy him more trying out Xynode's builds.
I've never played on Xbox, only on PC, but I think I'll enjoy it on PC just as much
Side note to fans of alcast builds that I'm not trying to insult alcast or anything- those guides have been useful to me as well. I just don't enjoy the style of gameplay I'm getting out of them at all and my mele characters feel really stagnant in terms of skills and animations. These look so much more dynamic. I might even pick up the DK I abandoned ages ago again.
Alcasts build seem to be built with the intention that the entire Trial group is creating their builds with complete synergy. They work best when everyone has the other team mates in mind when coordinating their builds. It is the Pro technique.
If I were in a scoreboard chasing guild, I would absolutely be using builds like his. But since my guild doesn't coordinate like that, I make builds with the assumption that I may not get all the buffs that I need to perform to my best ability. So in his build where he doesn't slot a certain buff, I do so I can at least be 100% sure I will be getting it.
To me, it seems that is the difference between the two build creators. They are built for different audiences.
Very good point. Xynode tends to build on self sufficiency, Alcast and others (Dottz, etc) on group synergy and coordination. There is a place for both philisophies, and neither outweighs the other except for niche requirement.
Part of enjoying this game is exploring that, and the more voices the better.I don't know why anyone would be critical of others who contribute such effort in offering their ideas and opinions toward ESO builds, guides, and game play. I'm an Alcast follower too, but I think Xynode has done a fantastic job in offering some well thought-out and explained alternatives. His explanation and demonstration of the StamBlade rotation was enormously helpful to me. Props to him and all others who offer to help us out.
Wanted to highlight these two bolded statements here as theyre incredibly true. It's never a bad thing to have more build opinions in the mix, especially when they have different objectives. One of the beautiful things of buildcraft in ESO is there are thousands of combinations you can use, so there are so many possibilities for setups, each with their own intended design.
What I always recommend to people when looking up build guides is look at multiple, see what you like about each individual setup and what you dislike, and either wear the build that suits your needs or crowd source the information and alter it for yourself. Someone's setup might also click with you better than someone else's and others have ways of explaining information that makes perfect sense to you; that's the beauty of having multiple sources of great information to choose from
Now if we are gonna hop on the xynode appreciation train, I know especially myself back when i first was new on my MagDK way back when, i was struggling with a rotation for pve that was following the "meta" skill order, but i watched @xynode 's rotation for his mDK and my DPS skyrocketed because it just made sense for ME and how i wanted to play my DK. Now, i approach alot of the rotations in my build craft similarly to how i learned that rotation way back when. Xynode isnt a follower of the "meta", but he has proven that his builds come dang close to competing with them and are very accessible, and his insight into build craft has helped me with my own theorycrafting as well. Edited by Dottzgaming on May 16, 2019 7:32PM13 -
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People running in organised trial groups know this who I assume you are.Not a huge fan of his ideas around healing, he tells people not to use lightning staves or Infallible Aether, even though healers have shown both things are good. Most healers will have succes running IA even in normal trials. As for his dps builds, they're alright. Often they take a lot less effort to perfect and delivers enough damage to clear the sort of content they are made for. I would'nt really take him as a source for something even remotely meta or best in slot, but that does not seem to be what he is going for.. I consider it a positive that you can do builds like Xynode is and still have succes relative to the content you're doing, I would say most people would find more succes with his builds if they just want to have fun and do their daily pledges, than to straight up copy an Alcast trial build. I would'nt ever run one of his builds, but then again I would'nt run anything that is'nt best in slot.
And the Skyhold sets are very good for burns, not then you spend half your time resurrecting and the other half running around trying to get dots down.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
mikemacon✭✭✭✭✭Mrslizardface wrote: »Not a huge fan of his ideas around healing, he tells people not to use lightning staves or Infallible Aether, even though healers have shown both things are good. Most healers will have succes running IA even in normal trials. As for his dps builds, they're alright. Often they take a lot less effort to perfect and delivers enough damage to clear the sort of content they are made for. I would'nt really take him as a source for something even remotely meta or best in slot, but that does not seem to be what he is going for.. I consider it a positive that you can do builds like Xynode is and still have succes relative to the content you're doing, I would say most people would find more succes with his builds if they just want to have fun and do their daily pledges, than to straight up copy an Alcast trial build. I would'nt ever run one of his builds, but then again I would'nt run anything that is'nt best in slot.
What a patronizing response.
It's really not.. Even though he is one of the best Healers in the game, what he's saying is completely true. Xynode tells not to use IA and other good builds and when asked why not has no evidence to back it up. He just seems to have a hatred for anything considered meta
...so basically you’ve never actually watched his videos.
He actually DOES explain - quite clearly - why he doesn’t RECOMMEND lightning staves or IA on healers - “recommend,” BTW, not “tells people not to use them”.
If you’d watched his videos you’d know that.
For the Lightning staff issue, he pints out that you lose destro passives when swapping to a resto. Therefore the increase chance to proc off-balance goes away. When you have sorcs which are in fact using destros (like for instance the Easy Sorc) they’re swapping between destros and therefore never lose the passive, so you can have 100% uptime on concussion and therefore 25% uptime on off-balance per target. You don’t get that with a healer that’s running a resto/destro.
As for IA, he points out very, very clearly that it’s a DPS set. There’s nothing in its bonuses that screams “healer”. And since minor vulnerability is provided by other sets & skills, it’s kind of wasted on a healer when they could be using another healer-focused set. Now, if you have a DPS wearing it (again, like an Easy Sorc), not only can the DPS provide minor vulnerability to cover drop-offs from other sources and therefore guarantee 100% uptime, but the other set bonus to heavy attack damage is very good.
Again, you’d know that if you actually watched his videos instead of regurgitating what you’ve heard others say.
Nice try, though...10
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