250 crowns per zone

quite cheeky of ZoS to separate cyrodiil to 3 "zone" skyshard on crown store, they absolutely know that some people either despise cyrodiil or keep getting killed while gathering skyshard

no option for zero

Only crafters really need to collect many many shards. So unless you plan to do writs with alts the shards aren't worth much.

Juponen wrote: »

Only crafters really need to collect many many shards. So unless you plan to do writs with alts the shards aren't worth much.

I'm not sure crafters are the main target of this. I have *so* many crafters (for daily writs) who have enough skill points simply from leveling to 50. Once they're all maxed up on crafting, I respec and take away the "learn 3 traits at once" "deconstruction" etc sorts of skills. If I need a couple more points, I jump to some of the cities where I can pick up the in-town shards. EZPZ.

Le sigh.

I'm pleased to see so many people say "none" - it would be nice if that actually impacted ZOS' decision here. It won't. Their work is done - this system has been created and will remain in the shop forever. Even if they get just a few nibbles here and there, it's money in their pocket.

The writing is on the wall, guys. It started with instant research scrolls and mount lessons. It has moved on to skyshard packages. They keep testing us to see how much we're willing to allow, each time being a bit more egregious and a step towards p2w. Up next? Instant skill leveling? Pay to advance to 50?

And, as long as *someone* buys into it, our community voice will never sway ZOS from creating this pay to not play nonsense. I for one hope the ROI on this system absolutely tanks. Otherwise, mark my words, we are headed for some dangerous waters.

Grianasteri wrote: »

CleymenZero wrote: »

FOR ALL SKYSHARDS PER CHARACTER.

It is how much you'd buy it for.

Sorry for the lack of:
- None
- less than 3k Crowns

Just "Agree" to ManwithBeard9's comment if you want to vote "None".

Not how much do you think they're gonna cost. If they're 50k per toon 1% of us will purchase so it doesn't matter.

Are you talking per shard? 3k for ONE shard? Apologies if I have missed something, but I wont be paying thousands of crowns for 1 shard.

I guess the most Id be willing to part with would be the free crowns received each month via ESO plus subscription, and even that is a stretch.

What does "FOR ALL SKYSHARDS PER CHARACTER" mean to you? Does it mean 3k for 1 skyshard or 3k for all skyshards on one character...?

Zer0_CooL wrote: »

Why is this not an option?

My bad, it should really be an option XD

I'm not buying, but three points:

First, if you level up searching for shards and clearing regions, by the time you reach lvl 50, you have many skill points already.

Second, this is not pay to win. In this game, if you are an idiot, it doesn't matter if you have all the skill points in the whole of Tamriel. Skill points can't make you a winner in this game. Training and learning does.

Third, console players may need this and should be cheaper on their side. PC players nah. We have the addons. If you have the money, sure; but utterly unnecessary.

reoskit wrote: »

Le sigh.

I'm pleased to see so many people say "none" - it would be nice if that actually impacted ZOS' decision here. It won't. Their work is done - this system has been created and will remain in the shop forever. Even if they get just a few nibbles here and there, it's money in their pocket.

The writing is on the wall, guys. It started with instant research scrolls and mount lessons. It has moved on to skyshard packages. They keep testing us to see how much we're willing to allow, each time being a bit more egregious and a step towards p2w. Up next? Instant skill leveling? Pay to advance to 50?

And, as long as *someone* buys into it, our community voice will never sway ZOS from creating this pay to not play nonsense. I for one hope the ROI on this system absolutely tanks. Otherwise, mark my words, we are headed for some dangerous waters.

That's a great insight. I'm aware that it will amount to nothing but think about it though: a poll revealed that 30% of the forum's users considered it was "p2w" whether they really thought it was p2w or they were simply against this new feature.

From a PR perspective, it doesn't look good.

Now as of now, if you consider that 126 users agreed on the first comment signifying "None", a total of 220 users voted (it may be more since some that wanted to vote "None" or potato may have missed the notice to agree on the first comment).

We have 123 votes for "None" and 61 votes for "around 3K Crowns" for the entire character and 4 voted for "more than 20k" (whether they're serious or not). That's 56% of forum users that are unwilling to pay, 28% that are willing to pay around 3k Crowns and 1.8 that are willing to pay more than 20k Crowns per toon (they HAVE to be kidding lol)...

Now, the forum population may not represent the global community but it's our only metric.

Also, how many of the "None" would finally cave and purchase if the price is reasonable and also, how many of the "around 15k Crowns" would cave and be like: "it's just another 35$" and go all in if the price is insane? A lot of none said they would consider it if around 200-250 Crowns per zone. That has to be considered.

All these factors add a lot of uncertainty and I'm sure ZOS has done their market research. What I'm saying is what looks more profitable? Do you sell something to 1.8% of your users at 20k+ a pop or do you sell to 28%+ of the pop at around 3k a pop?

My thought is that, by selling them per zone, a lot won't realize how much they're spending and end up sinking a lot into this feature. It's not evil, it's business and marketing and marketing strategies have always been about exploiting weaknesses.

You obviously don't need all skyshards to "round up a build", a few will suffice but the metric chosen was to establish a price that's easier to measure. If it costs 3k Crowns per toon, you might buy almost all of them. If it's more, there will be a point where you'll think that, in terms of value, they are not worth purchasing at a certain price.

TheInfernalRage wrote: »

I'm not buying, but three points:

First, if you level up searching for shards and clearing regions, by the time you reach lvl 50, you have many skill points already.

Second, this is not pay to win. In this game, if you are an idiot, it doesn't matter if you have all the skill points in the whole of Tamriel. Skill points can't make you a winner in this game. Training and learning does.

Third, console players may need this and should be cheaper on their side. PC players nah. We have the addons. If you have the money, sure; but utterly unnecessary.

I agree with the first 2 statements. I don't think they should be cheaper for console only, they should be cheap-ish for everyone. And if you practice predatory marketing, you would sell higher to console players because they don't have access to add-ons so the skyshards have a higher value because they are less accessible.

Now that would get you a lot of hatred but so would selling lower to console players.

I spent most of last week finishing up gathering the SkyShards for the Achievement which is needed to purchase the store item. I got to say, it was quite the challenge, it was frustrating and fun at the same time. Cyrodiill was the hardest (solo). Just took a little time and a lot of jumping around.

This is an optional item that is no way needed, it simply saves me the few hours it would take to gather them all again. The only reason this even came about is because people (players) have asked for it.

I won't buy any, simple.