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Stamblade PVP future
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ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭I run 2h/SnB so its no biggy for me. I also run Dark Cloak instead of the invis bs no self respect morph lol.
I actually like the NB changes, and i love playing my Stamblade. I run a nasty build where i got (fully buffed) 42k physical and spell resistances, 3k crit res, 4.2k wep dmg, 31k stam, 27k HP, 12k Mag, 1700 stam recov.
I demolish with it. Tanky asf and throws out NASTY damage. Sucks in duels tho, amazing outnumbered.0 -
ItsNebula✭✭✭✭✭The NB feature is the most stupid thing i see in this game.
The gameplay "Rogue" of NB as it should be does not exist
You're a NB and want to play like a Sin/Rogue.
ZOS : Well ok, you should invest in stamina and medium armor if you want to be stealthy and strong. And more, you'll get a good heal.
You : Ok nice, i go for stam and med.
ZOS : Buuuuuut, you'll lose your shadowy cloack cause it's pure magic.
You : Hmm, may be i should just go for magic and light ? Also i have good melee skill with stun and an execute.
ZOS : Yeah, but if you go magic you'll be less stealthy.
You : Uh ? Why ? I would be lighter..
ZOS : That's life. Oh and you'll lose your good heal, and also you'll loose your good ambush engagement. (ZOS : Mouhahaha we got him). And more, you need the resto staff now if you want some heal.
You: But, i'm a rogue..
ZOS : Yeah but you need the resto staff. that's all. Oh, and yeah for your 2nd weap, you'll lose the ability to play with a bow if you go magic ;D.
You : WTFF... Ok then i'll go stam.
ZOS : Uhuh. but don't forget fear, cloack, shadow image, grim focus, mark target. You need magicka ! But you'll do less damage ;D.
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Well you understand that all the NB class is broken as hell for rogue gameplay in this game. Players who continue to play as it, try to be a rogue with devious way and some OP proc set. That's all. And they use just 1 or 2 skill from NB.
If you seriously min-max in PvP instead of allowing flexibility in your build, then you should enjoy the consequences. There's a difference between something being impossible and you simply not wanting to make any concessions. You don't want to make concessions, so you have to pay the price for them in either your build or gameplay, just like every other class in the game.
I have no idea what your build is, but if you aren't happy with it and find it flawed, then change it to what you want. PvP is not PvE and there's more than one solution to a build problem.
Concessions ? NB have passiv ability relative to invisibility and sneak. Don't play with them cause it's broken is like deny your entire class. NB can't play without cloak. Or just threw up your passives. But you better play a DK.
They are no "freaking out" to play another playstyle. They can't.
Use plaster to make this class work will not make me think there is no problem with the character design
"NB cant play without cloak" i play without cloak because..
1) My overall stats are 5x better than your average NBs stats.
2) I have self respect.
3) Im better than the average PvPer.
4) I actually take the time to learn a new play style.
I would MUCH rather run dark cloak for the heal than the invis.. i do perfectly fine without it for.. the reasons listed above.0 -
n0she1teR✭✭So... you’re complaining that you now have to use a different source for your major fracture? You’re complaining that ZoS has continued to nerf your class and give it no love? Welcome to the club!!!
*laughs in Stam-Sorc*
If you are going to complain abou the changes at least be accurate... it’s not a penetration increase (as said by AkRay) on surprise attack on the PTS, it’s a flat damage increase, which will stack nicely with the extra damage incap still grants.
Overall, I feel for you Nightblades out there, I probably won’t be taking mine out much anymore (not my main anyways). I think ZoS went too “high and to the right” on the nerfs (a simple damage nerf to surprise attack would have done, as well as getting rid of major defile and turning it into minor defile).
But.... now you just have to invest into gear sets and think outside the box for those buffs/debuffs that you have always had easy access to.0 -
ChefZero✭✭✭✭I don't understand why people still hype heavy armour. We got protective trait for jewelry and now 15% mitigation on top. Damage and sustain is far superior on mid amour and if you need a bit mag reg in your build just pic imperial.
Also many people here rating skills and balance without taking in account that meta could shift in the next months. Everyone will become more mobile with the next update and that could change a lot.PC EU - DC only0 -
armeegrun✭✭I get ganked by NB's all the time, so I built one. A kajit, bow build hundings and gryphons, I can hardly kill a darn thing with it unless I catch someone of guard. All divines but two pieces impen. 3700K weapon Damage, 50 percent give or take crit. If my fist snipe is from stealth I'm good other than that, she does like no damage, penetration is good too, cant recall the exact I have but I dumped a good amount of CP in that. It seems to me, because i have the same prob with my Stam DK running 7th and Fury, and My Mag Sorc running Necro and Spinners, that everyone is some sort of troll tank. Then at the last minute their buddy comes in and snipe kills you...1 -
ChefZero✭✭✭✭I get ganked by NB's all the time, so I built one. A kajit, bow build hundings and gryphons, I can hardly kill a darn thing with it unless I catch someone of guard. All divines but two pieces impen. 3700K weapon Damage, 50 percent give or take crit. If my fist snipe is from stealth I'm good other than that, she does like no damage, penetration is good too, cant recall the exact I have but I dumped a good amount of CP in that. It seems to me, because i have the same prob with my Stam DK running 7th and Fury, and My Mag Sorc running Necro and Spinners, that everyone is some sort of troll tank. Then at the last minute their buddy comes in and snipe kills you...
3700k WD without Spriggans isn't a lot...PC EU - DC only0 -
evoniee✭✭✭✭i 1vx with DBoS, if i duel or 1v1 tank player, i swap it with incap. now it doesnt matter, we will use DBoS or onslaught and forget we have class ultimate.
20% amplify just not worth for pvp. my DBoS dots have 18k damage. i need to make 90k damage in 6sec to out damage the dbos dots. now defile is gone, more reason to unslot it.Edited by evoniee on May 14, 2019 1:32AM1 -
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✭✭i 1vx with DBoS, if i duel or 1v1 tank player, i swap it with incap. now it doesnt matter, we will use DBoS or onslaught and forget we have class ultimate.
20% amplify just not worth for pvp. my DBoS dots have 18k damage. i need to make 90k damage in 6sec to out damage the dbos dots. now defile is gone, more reason to unslot it.
Invis pot/Cloak -> DBoS on a group was always superior in my opinon anyway, but maybe that's just me...Then again, that's really the only ult worth slotting in PvP IMO.0