Sunspire Senche in the Crown Store - Please don't do this!

Cheezits94 · May 2019

ShadowProc wrote: »

The PVE crowd is too funny. You wanted easy mode rewards coming into pvp a few weeks ago but then get all sorts of upset about making it too easy to obtain mounts by paying? Lmao. So entertaining.

Uhm? I don't want any achievement made easier, especially not PVP achievements… I belong to the "if people want PVP achievements, they should have to PVP"-crowd. You are funny...

Sotha_Sil · May 2019

If someone can buy a mount with a simple click when others have had to do progression in a raid for months, spending hours and hours in it, it undermines endgame content, there is not point doing it, especially when you can just buy crowns with gold nowadays. It is like ZOS saying they don't care about the endgame community and give them something they will give casual anyways... That's why end game raids in ESO will always be a problem and not worth doing.

It was already in issue with AS polymorph but at least it was not exactly the same. Now, this is ridiculous.

On the "bright side", that mount will be probably available for a couple days and gone until next year.

Svenja · May 2019

ShadowProc wrote: »

The PVE crowd is too funny. You wanted easy mode rewards coming into pvp a few weeks ago but then get all sorts of upset about making it too easy to obtain mounts by paying? Lmao. So entertaining.

The people upset about this mount are probably the PVE players who advocate AGAINST PVP-Achievements made easier, because they dislike achievements and rewards handed out like candy to people who don't even want to put some effort into earning said achievement or learning how to play the game.
At least that's the "crowd" i count myself to.

Cheezits94 · May 2019

Svenja wrote: »

ShadowProc wrote: »

The PVE crowd is too funny. You wanted easy mode rewards coming into pvp a few weeks ago but then get all sorts of upset about making it too easy to obtain mounts by paying? Lmao. So entertaining.

The people upset about this mount are probably the PVE players who advocate AGAINST PVP-Achievements made easier, because they dislike achievements and rewards handed out like candy to people who don't even want to put some effort into earning said achievement or learning how to play the game.
At least that's the "crowd" i count myself to.

This.
The people who welcome the mount being available in the crown store are the ones that want PVP achievements for not actually PVP'ing. Not the people who are upset about this. The people upset about the mount available in the store are likely the ones who want achievements to require some effort.

SteampunkWerewolf · May 2019

I think is a bit annoying to release something behind a wall maybe only 1% of players will ever be able to get so don’t see an issue with other being in crown store. For fairness tho they maybe should have done more for the achievement one just because it’s so hard.

Odovacar · May 2019

Whats next ...ZOS is going to sell titles too, LOL. Say no to crown crates and yes to yearn and earn!

Then again, I could care less what others do in-game anyways so ...whatever...have at it crown kings and queens.

luen79rwb17_ESO · May 2019

They're too similar and that's the real issue.

If people wanna spend all their income on a mount or playing casino crates that's their problem.

What ZOS needs to do is change the appereance on the crown version. Tone it down or make it different.

NordSwordnBoard · May 2019

Its just like the 3rd door into college through bribery - the schools don't want competition on their own pay-to-admit operation (massive "donations" for the same effect as the bribes). Instead of paying players for a carry to get your mount, you pay the crown store. I think this is ZOS's way of closing the third door, or at least making the other options just as visually attractive but less convenient than paying them directly. The achievement requirements make this mount sound really tough to pull off carrying someone anyhow - making both the carriers and carried less optimistic about choosing that route.

Depths of Malatar skin seems to fit right in the middle of the two extremes of the upcoming trial rewards and the CS equivalents. As others have said, if you wear armor it's indistinguishable from crystal frost. Are they encouraging Crown Store poseurs to appear elite? That slippery slope and all...

DovahkiinHeart · May 2019

Or make the trial version extra special so that everyone, even that lowbie who just got an account five minutes ago knows where it came from.

Even better, every time that mount is summoned, have a telegraph similar to the server maintenance downtime alert pop up to tell everyone within the vicinity exactly how that person acquired the mount, down to how many months it took. Also have everyone automatically drop what they were doing, even when they're in the middle of a queue, gather around the mount so they could /kowtow.

And no, you can't disable this in the settings or find an add on to bypass this.

What do you mean, that's absurd? Isn't distinction and recognition what you're after? Now all eyes are on you. Enjoy the fame.

BuddyAces · May 2019

Y'all never seen this coming?? Other than titles can you name me one thing that's in game that isn't sold on the crown store? Y'all living in denial if you didn't think this was going to happen.

Chaos2088 · May 2019

To each their own but don’t like the mount. So not that fussed about getting it via the trial.

If they want to sell it, not buying it. Main reason it’s just the same mount with a re-skin.

It got old, 1-2 years ago. The milk has runnnth dry!!!

Acrolas · May 2019

I feel that the Factotum polymorphs complement each other rather than compete with each other. They both serve their purpose.

There would probably be less ire if a crown store version had a fiery top and icy appendages. Evoking the same source material without being a doppelganger.

Chicharron · May 2019

Harcore players are the most selfish, envious and presumptuous players.

What does it matter if there is someone with the same mount at your side and I buy it with crowns?

You got it for free and with effort and you know it, i do not understand the need to want to shout it to the world.

I think it's good that there are two options, there are people who can not do it because of time or disability, they deserve it too.

Dark_Lord_Kuro · May 2019

About time they start valuing the big part of their costumer and not just the few who can complete the hardest content

Now retroactvly aply this to all trial and dongeon dlc

Svenja · May 2019

Chicharron wrote: »

Harcore players are the most selfish, envious and presumptuous players.

What does it matter if there is someone with the same mount at your side and I buy it with crowns?

You got it for free and with effort and you know it, i do not understand the need to want to shout it to the world.

I think it's good that there are two options, there are people who can not do it because of time or disability, they deserve it too.

I don't want ZOS to tell me "With this mount, we wanted to give something special and unique to our endgame raiders to work for" in their Livestream if that is not the case. [snip]
That's on me though, for believing marketing blabla.

I wouldn't have felt remotely as disappointed had they said "We have a nice crown store mount coming up, and our raiders can even earn it ingame instead of having to spend crowns."

[edited for bashing]

Dark_Lord_Kuro · May 2019

Swiftfox_Bouncyface wrote: »

agegarton wrote: »

Personally, I am not a fan of anything being locked behind achievement walls any more than I am a fan of anything being locked behind pay walls.

If you want it for free then run the dungeon (or whatever). If you're happy to pay, then pay.

If the aim of the game is "play it your way", then we should all be able to do that. Personally, I'd go as far as making DSA, Asylum and other weapons available from The Golden like Monster sets. There's no reason to keep these things away from those who just don't want to spend hours running a trial, etc. "Achievement elitism" is really very boring, and it adds nothing to the game.

Controversial, but there you go!

Controversial? You mean as controversial as every other special snowflake casul? "Achievement elitism" is a the way someone chose to play so yea let's make it brain dead for all special snowflakes to have anything they want without moving a finger

P.S.
It's not as fun as doing quests for some for instance

Nebthet78 · May 2019

Sunspire HM players also get the Furniture Achievements for doing the Trial on Hard Mode. You get access to the two Dragon statues that 99.5% of those who do housing will never be able to get access too.. So those are technically consider additional items you get for doing Hard Mode Sunspire, in addition to the Mount and the skin you get for doing it on Vet. I call that a good trade off.

BackAndAngry · May 2019

My sig is so prophetic

Svenja · May 2019

BackAndAngry wrote: »

My sig is so prophetic

haha, good one!

Had they talked about the mount like this, I wouldn't have been angry about it in the first place.

Colecovision · May 2019

If they really lock it up to only the best players, then lets add a condition where we can challenge the mount owner to a duel and take the mount from them. If you ride around on the mount in those conditions, then I'll know you're good.

Azyle1 · May 2019

My concern from this is that eventually the "P2W" will eventually happen.

DovahkiinHeart · May 2019

Nebthet78 wrote: »

Sunspire HM players also get the Furniture Achievements for doing the Trial on Hard Mode. You get access to the two Dragon statues that 99.5% of those who do housing will never be able to get access too..

Ohhh right, that's a very good point. Thanks for the reminder.

BackAndAngry · May 2019

Nebthet78 wrote: »

Sunspire HM players also get the Furniture Achievements for doing the Trial on Hard Mode. You get access to the two Dragon statues that 99.5% of those who do housing will never be able to get access too.. So those are technically consider additional items you get for doing Hard Mode Sunspire, in addition to the Mount and the skin you get for doing it on Vet. I call that a good trade off.

There will be a slightly darker one for crowns
Don’t panic

Radiance · May 2019

These mounts are making less and less sense. Like how about a simple Ostrich or a Mammoth, a Wamasu or an Ox, a cow? I would rather ride a [snip] Cow into battle than this! lol

[edited for profanity bypass]

BuddyAces · May 2019

Radiance wrote: »

These mounts are making less and less sense. Like how about a simple Ostrich or a Mammoth, a Wamasu or an Ox, a cow? I would rather ride a [snip] Cow into battle than this! lol

I want a [snip] goat [snip] it

[edited for profanity bypass & to remove quote]

Svenja · May 2019

DovahkiinHeart wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

Sunspire HM players also get the Furniture Achievements for doing the Trial on Hard Mode. You get access to the two Dragon statues that 99.5% of those who do housing will never be able to get access too..

Ohhh right, that's a very good point. Thanks for the reminder.

Probably an exact copy, just two inches bigger, will come up on the Luxury Furnishing Vendor at this point.

Chicharron · May 2019

Svenja wrote: »

Chicharron wrote: »

Harcore players are the most selfish, envious and presumptuous players.

What does it matter if there is someone with the same mount at your side and I buy it with crowns?

You got it for free and with effort and you know it, i do not understand the need to want to shout it to the world.

I think it's good that there are two options, there are people who can not do it because of time or disability, they deserve it too.

I don't want ZOS to tell me "With this mount, we wanted to give something special and unique to our endgame raiders to work for" in their Livestream if that is not the case. [snip]
That's on me though, for believing marketing blabla.

I wouldn't have felt remotely as disappointed had they said "We have a nice crown store mount coming up, and our raiders can even earn it ingame instead of having to spend crowns."

[snip]

I already lost count of how many times i read that they fixed the group finder.

[edited for bashing & to remove quote]

DovahkiinHeart · May 2019

BackAndAngry wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

Sunspire HM players also get the Furniture Achievements for doing the Trial on Hard Mode. You get access to the two Dragon statues that 99.5% of those who do housing will never be able to get access too.. So those are technically consider additional items you get for doing Hard Mode Sunspire, in addition to the Mount and the skin you get for doing it on Vet. I call that a good trade off.

There will be a slightly darker one for crowns
Don’t panic

Or a shinier one with particle affects /trollface.jpg

Chicharron wrote: »

I already lost count of how many times i read that they fixed the group finder.

They said in the latest patch that they fixed the Indrik floating feet.

Nope, still exists.

Nebthet78 · May 2019

BackAndAngry wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

Sunspire HM players also get the Furniture Achievements for doing the Trial on Hard Mode. You get access to the two Dragon statues that 99.5% of those who do housing will never be able to get access too.. So those are technically consider additional items you get for doing Hard Mode Sunspire, in addition to the Mount and the skin you get for doing it on Vet. I call that a good trade off.

There will be a slightly darker one for crowns
Don’t panic

I didn't see any of them in the Crown Store on the PTS... I've been checking each update.

idk · May 2019

Aliyavana wrote: »

Agreed. At the very least the trial version needs to be more distinct

This very much. I am dumbfounded that Zos thinks it is such a great idea to offer a mount for such a challenging achievement then sells a virtually identical mount in the crown store. Someone does not have a clue.