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PSA - STOP THE WEREWOLF/VAMPIRE GRIEIFING - Want to be a were/vamp? Think again!
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Nexxa✭I, too, think this blockading of content and reselling of content should be the highest kind of bannable. I personally reflex ignore everyone I hear selling vampire bites on with the same hatred I ignore gold spammers with and intend to give mine away to people willing to RP the change out free of charge. These people are scum, pure and simple, and anyone defending them is likely nervous at the outcome of threads like this because they're the same scum selling bites.Edited by Nexxa on April 11, 2014 1:03PMSpeaking the truth is best done by sadists... because it will hurt someone.3 -
Phyrdrin✭✭✭✭It doesn't seem like this argument is getting anywhere in particular. MMO's are a haven for people of all walks of life, including those that capitalize on a niche. Although this is a world of fantasy, one thing will always remain the same between real life and games - the human element. People will cheat and backstab each other over the smallest of things. You know that guy that ran up and took your chest while you were busy fighting mobs off of it? Just another jerk passing through, same as the people who are making a killing off of this. A few solutions have already been mentioned:
1. Stop paying these people and niche will disappear.
2. If you see this happening, make sure to immediately report them in game.
It will take time for them to be dissuaded, but what else do you have to do while you're waiting for that mob to spawn?"Surprise me. Say something intelligent."0 -
Nexxa✭I'm prone to respectfully disagree with that first part, Phyrdrin. The devs are clearly keeping an eye on things and letting them know the general player opinion on the matter is a good thing. However I do agree with your suggested responses and feel the same way. They should be reported and nobody should pay these griefers a dime.Speaking the truth is best done by sadists... because it will hurt someone.1
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Syndiaan✭✭You all complaining about people camping vamps/werewolves would have had a hell of a time in EQ1, try having every single boss mob camped, sometimes for days before you were able to get it.
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Elminster✭✭You all complaining about people camping vamps/werewolves would have had a hell of a time in EQ1, try having every single boss mob camped, sometimes for days before you were able to get it.
thats the reason why no one plays it now except for the hardcore players that has invested heavily into the game..., a mmorpg clearly needs more players not less.
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You all complaining about people camping vamps/werewolves would have had a hell of a time in EQ1, try having every single boss mob camped, sometimes for days before you were able to get it.
There's reasons we are playing ESO and not EQ1 ...like the one you point out. I have work, I have gf, I want to go out with friends...I've spend TONS of time WAITING for a SPAWN and HOPING it will NOT BE KILLED by the IDIOT standing right next to me. That's not what I find fun. I do not mind having to wait for the spawn, my problem is that even if it spawns the lvl50 guy will 1 shot it and go "selling bite 50k"...ZOS must come up with a solution within next few days...2 -
Syndiaan✭✭You all complaining about people camping vamps/werewolves would have had a hell of a time in EQ1, try having every single boss mob camped, sometimes for days before you were able to get it.
thats the reason why no one plays it now except for the hardcore players that has invested heavily into the game..., a mmorpg clearly needs more players not less.
it has been up for 15 years and still has a strong player base, I wouldn't say no one plays it anymore....0 -
D00fD1ll4✭✭As i said before, situations like this only add value to the gamplay to me. Otherwise i would be playing a single player game like skyrim where i can look in my FAQ and know everything that will happen beforehand.
But the real value of mmorpgs for me is all the situations that can only come up with other players involved.
I get it now, on the otherhand, that some people just don't like that kind of "content" and i should stop judging them for it, so should the rest.
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Here's an idea, just some thoughts:
If you feel like you're being exploited out of money, don't pay for a bite.
If it is absolutely paramount for you to become a werewolf or vampire, go wait at the spawn. For a long time.
Just because something isn't easy to attain doesn't mean that it should be changed for all of your sake. What's that saying? When the going gets tough, complain until it gets easier?0 -
KevLit0352_ESO wrote: »Here's an idea, just some thoughts:
If you feel like you're being exploited out of money, don't pay for a bite.
If it is absolutely paramount for you to become a werewolf or vampire, go wait at the spawn. For a long time.
Just because something isn't easy to attain doesn't mean that it should be changed for all of your sake. What's that saying? When the going gets tough, complain until it gets easier?
Here's an idea:
If you guarantee me a bite when the WWs spawn I'll not complain...you can't? Because some *** kills them? Sorry your idea is invalid. The idiot does not have the right to block the content from me just because he wants to keep the spawn rare and spam "selling bites" in the chat.
Edit: I've spend 15+ hours waiting for the spawns. So how much I should wait? Months? For something that I pay for? Nope...Edited by ShadowOfOblivion on April 11, 2014 1:31PM2 -
RufusTheHoundSoul Shriveni've never encountered these people, but if they exist, they are terrible people, and they are effectively stealing a part of your game, i agree that zenimax etc should get rid of them1 -
CrimsonThomas wrote: »Zenimax, Elder Scrolls Online Community, allow me to put it this way:
These people who deliberately block off this portion of the game are stealing from you. They are blocking off a portion of the game Zenimax created, and that you paid for, and are attempting to resell it for personal profit.
That, in my opinion, goes beyond simple exploit, it's theft. Zenimax, you like money, and you're proud of your product, and they're stealing your intellectual property. Fix it.
^ there was a guild that created as a ALL WW pack, they also hunted vamps and wiped them off each respawn time. I understand this is a RP thing and such. but that is extremely on the fence.
Anyways ive seen people selling super rare daedric motifs, barbaric motifs, ancient elf motifs from 30,000 up to like 70,000 since its a rare, they even resorted to $20 or more on Paypal. i mean its easy they send money to your email u give the motif.
there's no barrier anywhere. so my opinion. whenever you send an email addy it should be censored regardless
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Catsocks✭✭People are being silly and are only camped out at 3 spawn points because that's what all the online guides are showing. They can't seem to figure out there are more, and to go wander around finding them (I found a spawn point with no one around as a level 12, we had a level 5 guildie get bit).
The gnashing of teeth over this by people who can't do the bare minimum of effort is astonishing. Camping a spot for days on end? Why on earth would you do this? They spawn on a set timer that is pretty public knowledge at this point; if you are seriously waiting at one spot for days on end you are wasting your time and have no one to blame but yourself.
The misplaced righteous indignation is astonishing and I really feel sorry ZOS has to deal with this.
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The ToS probably says that if you either camp or cry in the forum about ppl camping they charge you a full monthI'm sure on the back of their boxes they didnt read "Do not camp areas" lol"Yesterday while searching a barrel in vVoM I found a lemon. Best drop of the whole run."
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I, too, think this blockading of content and reselling of content should be the highest kind of bannable. I personally reflex ignore everyone I hear selling vampire bites on with the same hatred I ignore gold spammers with and intend to give mine away to people willing to RP the change out free of charge. These people are scum, pure and simple, and anyone defending them is likely nervous at the outcome of threads like this because they're the same scum selling bites.
Every person selling a WW Bite are not griefs, you might as well turn chat off all together if you're trying to ignore people that are selling hard to get items, their are rare spawn's in a lot of other places in the end zones explore and find them,that's what i did,
hell i want some rare items,motifs and weapons so I find them if i want them faster I BUY them. Is that not reselling of content? i cant bite yet but when i do Its more then likely going to a guildie, but if i do sell one or two it should not be a bad thing because that would be a contradiction to the game,
If there are any level 40-50's in this thread saying they cant get a bite needs to stop, Its actually safe for you in those zone's, i got one @ 20 and anyone below 18-20 needs to think twice, the elite mob you're required to kill to get the skill line is nothing to be played with,
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Catsocks✭✭I finished the vampire quest at 12, and the werewolf quest at 23. There is literally nothing preventing anyone from exploring the zone. I didn't die as a 5, a 12 or a 20 in that zone unless I jumped off a cliff or something. I could easily kill mob packs of 2-3 as a 23 in that zone.
Literally don't understand why people are clumped up in huge groups in three spots and aren't getting bit at other locations (some are seriously easy to find too and no one was there).0 -
Requielle✭✭✭I just had a rather fun thought. Enable PvP flags for everyone, band together with other vampires/werewolves and then go slaughter the profit seekers who are camping the spawn points.
Oh, heck no. If this game went full-bore PvP, I would be out the door in a second. I have EVE for my PvP fix, TYVM. I'm here to carebear.1 -
I finished the vampire quest at 12, and the werewolf quest at 23. There is literally nothing preventing anyone from exploring the zone. I didn't die as a 5, a 12 or a 20 in that zone unless I jumped off a cliff or something. I could easily kill mob packs of 2-3 as a 23 in that zone.
Literally don't understand why people are clumped up in huge groups in three spots and aren't getting bit at other locations (some are seriously easy to find too and no one was there).
Yea its like people want zen to tell them exactly where all the locations are, i don't get it either, we are supposed to search for the good stuff people. do you think you can YouTube or Google every motif location?
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Lucian_Star wrote: »Every person selling a WW Bite are not griefs, you might as well turn chat off all together if you're trying to ignore people that are selling hard to get items, their are rare spawn's in a lot of other places in the end zones explore and find them,that's what i did,
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If there are any level 40-50's in this thread saying they cant get a bite needs to stop, Its actually safe for you in those zone's, i got one @ 20 and anyone below 18-20 needs to think twice, the elite mob you're required to kill to get the skill line is nothing to be played with,
Nobody's saing that those that sell the bytes are griefs...Problem is with those that KILL the spawns in order to sell the bites for tons of gold.
I am lvl 40 and I'm fine with the zone...still can't find any spawn and the one I ever saw was KILLED by some idiot...since then - few days and 15 hours spend can't find any spawn again...if they make them spawn evry night at random spots i'm fine but not with the current state where people camp the spots to KILL the spawns so they can sell the bites for higher prices...2 -
Valn✭✭✭✭✭There shouldn't be a separate quest. Getting bitten by one should be the only way you can become one. All they need to do is make the spawns in completely random areas and it will solve the problem.
Plus you can't blame entire guilds just going out hunting bloodfiends or werewolves. Maybe it's their activity.
It's funny seeing all these people "ban them NOW" because they're upset they aren't a vampire or werewolf yet.
If there's a quest that everyone has then everyone would become one and it would defeat the purpose.Edited by Valn on April 11, 2014 4:33PM0 -
Requielle✭✭✭You all complaining about people camping vamps/werewolves would have had a hell of a time in EQ1, try having every single boss mob camped, sometimes for days before you were able to get it.
And that has to do with this discussion how? People in EQ1 also spent literally hours at a time camping the town guards that were there to protect the newbie areas in order to level. And merchant NPCs were literally lethal if you accidentally attacked them. Suggesting that since a game that came out 15 years ago used a game mechanic that ESO players should be OK with it seems a bit ... out of touch?1 -
Thechemicals✭✭✭✭✭Creating a market or otherwise camping content designed to be played by players without intentional restriction or control by other players is wrong. However, being unable to find a way around these griefers shenanigans is even worse.
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@Shadowofoblivian
what faction are you? from what i have seen every full moon there is a big party around the same 3 Sites, witch are very close to each other, I'm DC and i was killed by one on a full moon but no where near there.
I understand People are killing the wolves extremely fast, I have seen it it's like milliseconds the're killed before they are even fully viewable. you have to think, If it's allot of people around the site are my chances better on the other side of the map or here at this point in time.Edited by Lucian_Star on April 11, 2014 5:11PM0 -
Lucian_Star wrote: »what faction are you? from what i have seen every full moon there is a big party around the same 3 Sites, witch are very close to each other, I'm DC and i was killed by one on a full moon but no where near there.
I understand People are killing the wolves extremely fast, I have seen it it's like milliseconds the're killed before they are even fully viewable. you have to think, If it's allot of people around the site are my chances better on the other side of the map or here at this point in time.
I am AD.
I've been camping different sites - widely known and some that are just rumors and nobody is there. I ran the whole zone (Riepers March) few times during the nights...
Still I first need to catch a night with a spawn, then I have to hope that I find a spawn that is not know by the griefers and then get the bite...Isn't that too much? I'm OK with farming for stuff (ex. GW2 legendaries) - you see your progress done step by step. I'm not fine when I have NO progress at all for days because there is nothing that's sure about those spawns (and if it's true that they are around full moons for WW they *** up two of those with maintenances) and on top even if something spawn someone can deny you the spawn so they can abuse an ability...
Easy fix? Get few GMs online immediately, let them spam the chat with "come to X zone, get bite"and get them respawn vamps / wolves until everybody that want's them have them. This denies the griefers and will spread the curses enough that nobody will be interested in selling bites or they will be super cheap.0 -
I plan to kill this spawns just to make tons of butthurt for vampire and werewolves lovers, just for fun.
I can see how this would be fun for some people, But it will only effect those who depend on unofficial online guide's for this game, The system is set up better than some people think.
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✭Report one.
Report two.
Wait that one is running way! No that is ok , reported also.
Report four.
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It even better when they have weird names , atleast i can report them for that and probably get some return , grief the griefers , everyone is happy."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Catsocks✭✭Lucian_Star wrote: »I finished the vampire quest at 12, and the werewolf quest at 23. There is literally nothing preventing anyone from exploring the zone. I didn't die as a 5, a 12 or a 20 in that zone unless I jumped off a cliff or something. I could easily kill mob packs of 2-3 as a 23 in that zone.
Literally don't understand why people are clumped up in huge groups in three spots and aren't getting bit at other locations (some are seriously easy to find too and no one was there).
Yea its like people want zen to tell them exactly where all the locations are, i don't get it either, we are supposed to search for the good stuff people. do you think you can YouTube or Google every motif location?
Exploration in my Elder Scrolls game? Why I never...
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ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerHey guys! Just wanted to give you all a quick update on this. We still have a close eye on the situation, and we will be taking action on anyone who is violating our Terms of Service by charging real money or scamming other players.
We'd also like to remind you that there are multiple spawn points to get bit. Of course, we're not going to tell you where they are exactly. You'll have to explore to find them!
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