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Grim focus change
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Ragnaroek93✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »People need to calm and test it on PTS. It's pretty much the same as old Major Evasion on average.
In which universe is nightblades having the equivalent of old major evasion not OP????
In the universe in which Nbs lost 5k pen (or a skill slot or a 5p set), 8% dmg, 10% stamrec, major defile and their snare.I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.14 -
Ectheliontnacil✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »People need to calm and test it on PTS. It's pretty much the same as old Major Evasion on average.
What? No. How?
Major evasion had 100% uptime without needing to play the 'mini-game' wayyy stronger buff.5 -
Hyzock✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »People need to calm and test it on PTS. It's pretty much the same as old Major Evasion on average.
In which universe is nightblades having the equivalent of old major evasion not OP????
In the universe in which Nbs lost 5k pen (or a skill slot or a 5p set), 8% dmg, 10% stamrec, major defile and their snare.
In the universe where stamblade was overperforming in PvP for years and was in desperate need for nerfs. Whether they overnerfed it or not is up for discussion but a lot of stamblade mains have been carried by their class for very long. The nb nerfs doesn't mean it's a dead class. Well stamblade at least, magblade is just collateral damage at this point.PC EU - Frank the Potato - Stam DK4 -
kaithuzar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »People need to calm and test it on PTS. It's pretty much the same as old Major Evasion on average.
In which universe is nightblades having the equivalent of old major evasion not OP????
The universe where everyone’s a Stam user running bleeds w/5k weapon damage w/near maxed resistances.Edited by kaithuzar on April 29, 2019 10:49PMMember of:
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Hyzock✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »People need to calm and test it on PTS. It's pretty much the same as old Major Evasion on average.
In which universe is nightblades having the equivalent of old major evasion not OP????
The universe where everyone’s a Stam user running bleeds w/5k weapon damage.
Bleeds have been nerfed and snb is BiS on most things anyway which doesn't have bleeds, just yelling bleeds as an argument isn't valid anymore.
And 5k weapon damage isn't even that high anymore for most stam specs.PC EU - Frank the Potato - Stam DK0 -
kaithuzar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »People need to calm and test it on PTS. It's pretty much the same as old Major Evasion on average.
In which universe is nightblades having the equivalent of old major evasion not OP????
The universe where everyone’s a Stam user running bleeds w/5k weapon damage.
Bleeds have been nerfed and snb is BiS on most things anyway which doesn't have bleeds, just yelling bleeds as an argument isn't valid anymore.
And 5k weapon damage isn't even that high anymore for most stam specs.
Bleeds are still over performing imo. Just because they were nerfed doesn’t mean they were actually balanced.
And as for you saying 5k weapon dmg is on the low end, well, you just proved my point.
As a magblade, I need the 8% dmg imo, but, I’ll take the defenses+healing as it’s better than nothing & testing will have to show if the skill gets removed from my bar or finds a place.Member of:
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Hyzock✭✭✭So i tested the actual damage mitigation of grim focus. Made sure we always had the exact same buffs etc.
On heavy + minor maim + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 2785
With 5 bow procs: 2399
On med + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 3695
With 5 bow procs: 3183
So in practice it is about 13.85% damage mitigation. I didn't test with a wide variety of buffs/debuffs but from these quick tests you can tell those buffs/debuffs didn't even affect it because the damage mitigation % is virtually the same on both tests.
So in conclusion, it is not 3% or 6% like a lot of people are saying, it is very close to 15%.PC EU - Frank the Potato - Stam DK1 -
Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭So i tested the actual damage mitigation of grim focus. Made sure we always had the exact same buffs etc.
On heavy + minor maim + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 2785
With 5 bow procs: 2399
On med + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 3695
With 5 bow procs: 3183
So in practice it is about 13.85% damage mitigation. I didn't test with a wide variety of buffs/debuffs but from these quick tests you can tell those buffs/debuffs didn't even affect it because the damage mitigation % is virtually the same on both tests.
So in conclusion, it is not 3% or 6% like a lot of people are saying, it is very close to 15%.
Very likely means it got added to the very end of the calculation like a true damage reduction instead of a mitigation that would have been applied multiplicative.
Also sounds like a possible lazy script. OR it could be they tried doing something unique for the class considering the massive amount of noise on the forum regarding mnb survivability. They realize the math would degrade the actual mitigation of it was applied thru the normal filters like all other mitigation’s.
I expect it to get nerfed before it goes live.
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Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭So i tested the actual damage mitigation of grim focus. Made sure we always had the exact same buffs etc.
On heavy + minor maim + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 2785
With 5 bow procs: 2399
On med + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 3695
With 5 bow procs: 3183
So in practice it is about 13.85% damage mitigation. I didn't test with a wide variety of buffs/debuffs but from these quick tests you can tell those buffs/debuffs didn't even affect it because the damage mitigation % is virtually the same on both tests.
So in conclusion, it is not 3% or 6% like a lot of people are saying, it is very close to 15%.
The right numbers the wrong conclusion. All mitigation is multiplicative and give diminishing returns. You’re getting 92% of that Focus buff toward total mitigation if Minor Prot is your only other source of mitigation. (Maim is target-side and plays no factor in self-mitigation calculations).
Simply adding block further reduces the effectiveness to 46% of the Focus buff.
Gains to total mitigation are minor, and still don’t have a place on what is supposed to be a damage ability7 -
Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭So i tested the actual damage mitigation of grim focus. Made sure we always had the exact same buffs etc.
On heavy + minor maim + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 2785
With 5 bow procs: 2399
On med + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 3695
With 5 bow procs: 3183
So in practice it is about 13.85% damage mitigation. I didn't test with a wide variety of buffs/debuffs but from these quick tests you can tell those buffs/debuffs didn't even affect it because the damage mitigation % is virtually the same on both tests.
So in conclusion, it is not 3% or 6% like a lot of people are saying, it is very close to 15%.
The right numbers the wrong conclusion. All mitigation is multiplicative and give diminishing returns. You’re getting 92% of that Focus buff toward total mitigation if Minor Prot is your only other source of mitigation. (Maim is target-side and plays no factor in self-mitigation calculations).
Simply adding block further reduces the effectiveness to 46% of the Focus buff.
Gains to total mitigation are minor, and still don’t have a place on what is supposed to be a damage ability
I’m more disappointed with the heal than I am the proc mitigation. It helps the long TTK on magblade. (Unless you are exceptionally quick at procing the bow...)0 -
Hyzock✭✭✭So i tested the actual damage mitigation of grim focus. Made sure we always had the exact same buffs etc.
On heavy + minor maim + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 2785
With 5 bow procs: 2399
On med + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 3695
With 5 bow procs: 3183
So in practice it is about 13.85% damage mitigation. I didn't test with a wide variety of buffs/debuffs but from these quick tests you can tell those buffs/debuffs didn't even affect it because the damage mitigation % is virtually the same on both tests.
So in conclusion, it is not 3% or 6% like a lot of people are saying, it is very close to 15%.
The right numbers the wrong conclusion. All mitigation is multiplicative and give diminishing returns. You’re getting 92% of that Focus buff toward total mitigation if Minor Prot is your only other source of mitigation. (Maim is target-side and plays no factor in self-mitigation calculations).
Simply adding block further reduces the effectiveness to 46% of the Focus buff.
Gains to total mitigation are minor, and still don’t have a place on what is supposed to be a damage ability
Ofc it's multiplicative, if every source of dmg mit was additive no one would take any damage, but people are saying it's weak because it's multiplicative which is absolutely not the case. That 3%-6% people are talking about is based on the dmg before mit which is a massive number. It's not an actual 15% dmg mit but it's far from as bad as some people are trying to make it look with the 3%-6%.PC EU - Frank the Potato - Stam DK1 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭So i tested the actual damage mitigation of grim focus. Made sure we always had the exact same buffs etc.
On heavy + minor maim + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 2785
With 5 bow procs: 2399
On med + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 3695
With 5 bow procs: 3183
So in practice it is about 13.85% damage mitigation. I didn't test with a wide variety of buffs/debuffs but from these quick tests you can tell those buffs/debuffs didn't even affect it because the damage mitigation % is virtually the same on both tests.
So in conclusion, it is not 3% or 6% like a lot of people are saying, it is very close to 15%.
The right numbers the wrong conclusion. All mitigation is multiplicative and give diminishing returns. You’re getting 92% of that Focus buff toward total mitigation if Minor Prot is your only other source of mitigation. (Maim is target-side and plays no factor in self-mitigation calculations).
Simply adding block further reduces the effectiveness to 46% of the Focus buff.
Gains to total mitigation are minor, and still don’t have a place on what is supposed to be a damage ability
Ofc it's multiplicative, if every source of dmg mit was additive no one would take any damage, but people are saying it's weak because it's multiplicative which is absolutely not the case. That 3%-6% people are talking about is based on the dmg before mit which is a massive number. It's not an actual 15% dmg mit but it's far from as bad as some people are trying to make it look with the 3%-6%.
On a standard build with the standard buffs, it only adds about 3% total mitigation.
It’s not worth slotting over something else if you’re looking for a defensive option0 -
Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭So i tested the actual damage mitigation of grim focus. Made sure we always had the exact same buffs etc.
On heavy + minor maim + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 2785
With 5 bow procs: 2399
On med + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 3695
With 5 bow procs: 3183
So in practice it is about 13.85% damage mitigation. I didn't test with a wide variety of buffs/debuffs but from these quick tests you can tell those buffs/debuffs didn't even affect it because the damage mitigation % is virtually the same on both tests.
So in conclusion, it is not 3% or 6% like a lot of people are saying, it is very close to 15%.
The right numbers the wrong conclusion. All mitigation is multiplicative and give diminishing returns. You’re getting 92% of that Focus buff toward total mitigation if Minor Prot is your only other source of mitigation. (Maim is target-side and plays no factor in self-mitigation calculations).
Simply adding block further reduces the effectiveness to 46% of the Focus buff.
Gains to total mitigation are minor, and still don’t have a place on what is supposed to be a damage ability
Ofc it's multiplicative, if every source of dmg mit was additive no one would take any damage, but people are saying it's weak because it's multiplicative which is absolutely not the case. That 3%-6% people are talking about is based on the dmg before mit which is a massive number. It's not an actual 15% dmg mit but it's far from as bad as some people are trying to make it look with the 3%-6%.
On a standard build with the standard buffs, it only adds about 3% total mitigation.
It’s not worth slotting over something else if you’re looking for a defensive option
How is that true when the numbers were showing 13~%?
Honest question because everyone Mathed so hard and came to wildly different conclusions.0 -
Jagdkommando✭✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Ragnaroek93 wrote: »People need to calm and test it on PTS. It's pretty much the same as old Major Evasion on average.
In which universe is nightblades having the equivalent of old major evasion not OP????
In the universe in which Nbs lost 5k pen (or a skill slot or a 5p set), 8% dmg, 10% stamrec, major defile and their snare.
In the universe where stamblade was overperforming in PvP for years and was in desperate need for nerfs. Whether they overnerfed it or not is up for discussion but a lot of stamblade mains have been carried by their class for very long. The nb nerfs doesn't mean it's a dead class. Well stamblade at least, magblade is just collateral damage at this point.
What you think, is this only way to nerf/change NBs??? I dont think so.0 -
BlackMadara✭✭✭✭So i tested the actual damage mitigation of grim focus. Made sure we always had the exact same buffs etc.
On heavy + minor maim + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 2785
With 5 bow procs: 2399
On med + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 3695
With 5 bow procs: 3183
So in practice it is about 13.85% damage mitigation. I didn't test with a wide variety of buffs/debuffs but from these quick tests you can tell those buffs/debuffs didn't even affect it because the damage mitigation % is virtually the same on both tests.
So in conclusion, it is not 3% or 6% like a lot of people are saying, it is very close to 15%.
The right numbers the wrong conclusion. All mitigation is multiplicative and give diminishing returns. You’re getting 92% of that Focus buff toward total mitigation if Minor Prot is your only other source of mitigation. (Maim is target-side and plays no factor in self-mitigation calculations).
Simply adding block further reduces the effectiveness to 46% of the Focus buff.
Gains to total mitigation are minor, and still don’t have a place on what is supposed to be a damage ability
Ofc it's multiplicative, if every source of dmg mit was additive no one would take any damage, but people are saying it's weak because it's multiplicative which is absolutely not the case. That 3%-6% people are talking about is based on the dmg before mit which is a massive number. It's not an actual 15% dmg mit but it's far from as bad as some people are trying to make it look with the 3%-6%.
On a standard build with the standard buffs, it only adds about 3% total mitigation.
It’s not worth slotting over something else if you’re looking for a defensive option
5 stacks of Grim Focus will always reduce the damage of an attack by 15%, compated to taking said attack without the bonus. This is how all mitigation tools in ESO work. You should never look at "total" mitigation, in a realistic scenario. One should determine if extra mitigation is usable, which most of the time it will be.
Name another ability that can give a permanent 15% damage reduction, while also allowing the use of other skills. Any other defensive choice you add on has diminishing returns. Nothing is true mitigation, except for you armor value, since it is calculated first.
The 15% damage reduction is powerful. That is more than minor protection, half of major protection, almost worth 10000 armor, or almost like applying minor maim to every opponent after the 5 stack.
The new grim focus is an excellent defensive tool, WITH balanced conditions and trade offs for the defensive buffs. You can't have it out of combat, it takes time to fully build up, required LA, which means that you can't just build up stacks in complete safety, and you can trade this excellent mitigation for a burst damage attack with a heal. This right here is good balance. Is damage mitigation the best fit for the skill? Maybe not, but this iteration is a very dynamic and interesting skill.3 -
Sanguinor2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭but a magicka templar can make my 24k spectral bow hit for 71 damage. Seems legit.
How exactly does a magplar get 99,9% dmg reduction tho? Im kinda curious. I have never seen a magplar or anything (even with Magma Shell you will take more Damage than that) with that Kind of Mitigation, was it during the cheat engine days by any Chance?Politeness is respecting others.
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FangOfTheTwoMoons✭✭✭✭✭For PvE the skill is still bad. This rework doesn't address the fact that we have to use 2 GCDs and get nothing until we play that fun little mini game. As a DPS I'm going to proc my bow so the mitigation isn't even going to help (I trust my healers to keep me alive). So now we're back to where we were week one; cost recourses and getting nothing in return. Tanks don't need the mitigation. Do you think this makes up for the Nerf to NB tanks heal? This is only decent for PVP. Besides the fact that people gotta redo their whole builds cause being a tanky NB is gonna be where it's at.4 -
darkblue5✭✭✭✭✭FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »For PvE the skill is still bad. This rework doesn't address the fact that we have to use 2 GCDs and get nothing until we play that fun little mini game. As a DPS I'm going to proc my bow so the mitigation isn't even going to help (I trust my healers to keep me alive). So now we're back to where we were week one; cost recourses and getting nothing in return. Tanks don't need the mitigation. Do you think this makes up for the Nerf to NB tanks heal? This is only decent for PVP. Besides the fact that people gotta redo their whole builds cause being a tanky NB is gonna be where it's at.
It doesn't have to be good for PVE. Magblade will likely still be top mag dps so??? We get the highest mag dps in return tho.1 -
Bazeric✭✭✭✭And despite all these "sources" of mitigation, it means noting when there still isn't enough output to be a threat and not enough healing to overcome pressure. On paper things sound amazing, in practice, 75% of mNB output is dodged or avoided, and they offer nothing to sustain other than hiding in cloak and running away.Looking for broken things in hopes they may be fixed. I've given up, my game literally works differently from yours.
64M+ AP across 9 toons... kinda makes me a GO6 -
Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭And despite all these "sources" of mitigation, it means noting when there still isn't enough output to be a threat and not enough healing to overcome pressure. On paper things sound amazing, in practice, 75% of mNB output is dodged or avoided, and they offer nothing to sustain other than hiding in cloak and running away.
CC pressure. But extremely difficult if outnumbered.0 -
FangOfTheTwoMoons✭✭✭✭✭FangOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »For PvE the skill is still bad. This rework doesn't address the fact that we have to use 2 GCDs and get nothing until we play that fun little mini game. As a DPS I'm going to proc my bow so the mitigation isn't even going to help (I trust my healers to keep me alive). So now we're back to where we were week one; cost recourses and getting nothing in return. Tanks don't need the mitigation. Do you think this makes up for the Nerf to NB tanks heal? This is only decent for PVP. Besides the fact that people gotta redo their whole builds cause being a tanky NB is gonna be where it's at.
It doesn't have to be good for PVE. Magblade will likely still be top mag dps so??? We get the highest mag dps in return tho.
That's no justification. You're basically saying screw other playstyles. So screw NB Tank, Healer and Stam DPS. Tying mitigation into an offensive skill is ass backwards. They could have come up with a complete rework if it was such a thorn in their side. The DK whip rework is a great example. Instead they just scramble to figure something out that might work instead of listening to feedback. Thinking this mitigation will alleviate the Nerf to Disguise for tanks is hilarious. Imagine a DPS excelling at DPS. We're not gonna Nerf DKs tanking because it's the best at tanking. Why should a dps focused class be nerfed to match other roles. I agree that NB was over preforming and some of the nerfs were needed but removing the identity of the class is sad. I still don't think Minor Endurance should have been removed but that's besides the point. My favorite part of this all is as soon as the notes were up there was a thread saying NB mitigation is OP Nerf, and they were being unironic.3 -
Hyzock✭✭✭So i tested the actual damage mitigation of grim focus. Made sure we always had the exact same buffs etc.
On heavy + minor maim + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 2785
With 5 bow procs: 2399
On med + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 3695
With 5 bow procs: 3183
So in practice it is about 13.85% damage mitigation. I didn't test with a wide variety of buffs/debuffs but from these quick tests you can tell those buffs/debuffs didn't even affect it because the damage mitigation % is virtually the same on both tests.
So in conclusion, it is not 3% or 6% like a lot of people are saying, it is very close to 15%.
The right numbers the wrong conclusion. All mitigation is multiplicative and give diminishing returns. You’re getting 92% of that Focus buff toward total mitigation if Minor Prot is your only other source of mitigation. (Maim is target-side and plays no factor in self-mitigation calculations).
Simply adding block further reduces the effectiveness to 46% of the Focus buff.
Gains to total mitigation are minor, and still don’t have a place on what is supposed to be a damage ability
Ofc it's multiplicative, if every source of dmg mit was additive no one would take any damage, but people are saying it's weak because it's multiplicative which is absolutely not the case. That 3%-6% people are talking about is based on the dmg before mit which is a massive number. It's not an actual 15% dmg mit but it's far from as bad as some people are trying to make it look with the 3%-6%.
On a standard build with the standard buffs, it only adds about 3% total mitigation.
It’s not worth slotting over something else if you’re looking for a defensive option
Yeah 3% mitigation from the original damage before any mitigation, but if a burst ability would hit you for 7000 after all resists and other mitigation, it would hit for only 5950 with 5 grim focus procs. You're calling that bad? That is a lot of damage mitigation and i don't understand how you can deny that.PC EU - Frank the Potato - Stam DK1 -
Hyzock✭✭✭So i tested the actual damage mitigation of grim focus. Made sure we always had the exact same buffs etc.
On heavy + minor maim + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 2785
With 5 bow procs: 2399
On med + minor protection:
With no bow procs: 3695
With 5 bow procs: 3183
So in practice it is about 13.85% damage mitigation. I didn't test with a wide variety of buffs/debuffs but from these quick tests you can tell those buffs/debuffs didn't even affect it because the damage mitigation % is virtually the same on both tests.
So in conclusion, it is not 3% or 6% like a lot of people are saying, it is very close to 15%.
The right numbers the wrong conclusion. All mitigation is multiplicative and give diminishing returns. You’re getting 92% of that Focus buff toward total mitigation if Minor Prot is your only other source of mitigation. (Maim is target-side and plays no factor in self-mitigation calculations).
Simply adding block further reduces the effectiveness to 46% of the Focus buff.
Gains to total mitigation are minor, and still don’t have a place on what is supposed to be a damage ability
Ofc it's multiplicative, if every source of dmg mit was additive no one would take any damage, but people are saying it's weak because it's multiplicative which is absolutely not the case. That 3%-6% people are talking about is based on the dmg before mit which is a massive number. It's not an actual 15% dmg mit but it's far from as bad as some people are trying to make it look with the 3%-6%.
On a standard build with the standard buffs, it only adds about 3% total mitigation.
It’s not worth slotting over something else if you’re looking for a defensive option
How is that true when the numbers were showing 13~%?
Honest question because everyone Mathed so hard and came to wildly different conclusions.
That 3% is based on the number before any damage mitigation, which is a massive number. If you simply test it with and without grim focus procs, you will see a 15% difference. Not exactly 15% because ZOS's formulas are weird but around 15%. The people claiming the ability is bad because it mitigates around 3% of the base damage don't know what they're talking about.PC EU - Frank the Potato - Stam DK2 -
StShoot✭✭✭✭Mitigation is mutliplicative
You can’t just add it all together and call it done. Not to mention anyone using the proc won’t have the full mitigation value most of the time.
Anyone using it regularly will on average have 6% damage mitigation, which in reality only adds 3% or so extra mitigation when you have the usual sources in CP and Major resist buffs
(Talking about PvP) You're not gonna use it when you're under a lot of pressure and it doesn't take long at all to get 5 stacks, so uptime on that 15% is gonna be really high in PvP, so uptime on 5 stacks isn't really an argument in PvP.
5 seconds in PvP is a long time, not sure what you’re on
It's a L2P issue if you use up the stacks when you're about to need the damage mitigation, 5 seconds isn't long if you're smart about using or saving up stacks.
Keep in mind you can't save the stacks in between fights. The second you aren't in combat any more they are gone and you have to rebuild them.
Given how squishy NBs tend to be this is an idiotic change to grim focus. The devs are trying to make a DD burst ability viable for all 3 roles but that just won't happen especially in pvp as a DD NB will be using up the stacks for burst given how long it takes to gain. Between all three roles each of them will only be actively using one half of grim focus at this point which means the skill itself is now lacking a clear identity. Not to mention a medium armor DD will never out last a hvy DK/templar/warden in pvp.
In that case the stuck in combat bug feels like a buff right ? xD0 -
actosh✭✭✭✭✭If u take a 100k hit and have 80% mitigation this results in 20k hit taken
If u have grim focus active with it, that last hit will get reduced by 15% wich results in 17k dmg taken.
Your total mitigation is 83% thats true.
But grim did reduce the 20k down to 17kdmg u take, wich is something around 15%.
What grim focus DOES NOT DO is it wont decrease the basehit by 15% before all mitigation, because that would be the gamebreaker we all wait for ^^
Total mitigation calculations are nice, but testing on bosses like olms on pts has shown for me that the skill is really strong, for the basicly nothing u have to do.
Thing is, it adds up, even in fights with a lot of dots ect pp or where u get constant dmg.
For pvp this will be even stronger.2 -
e-rwan✭✭If u take a 100k hit and have 80% mitigation this results in 20k hit taken
If u have grim focus active with it, that last hit will get reduced by 15% wich results in 17k dmg taken.
Your total mitigation is 83% thats true.
But grim did reduce the 20k down to 17kdmg u take, wich is something around 15%.
What grim focus DOES NOT DO is it wont decrease the basehit by 15% before all mitigation, because that would be the gamebreaker we all wait for ^^
Total mitigation calculations are nice, but testing on bosses like olms on pts has shown for me that the skill is really strong, for the basicly nothing u have to do.
Thing is, it adds up, even in fights with a lot of dots ect pp or where u get constant dmg.
For pvp this will be even stronger.
isn't non blocking mitigation limited to 50%?Edited by e-rwan on May 2, 2019 9:27AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭If u take a 100k hit and have 80% mitigation this results in 20k hit taken
If u have grim focus active with it, that last hit will get reduced by 15% wich results in 17k dmg taken.
Your total mitigation is 83% thats true.
But grim did reduce the 20k down to 17kdmg u take, wich is something around 15%.
What grim focus DOES NOT DO is it wont decrease the basehit by 15% before all mitigation, because that would be the gamebreaker we all wait for ^^
Total mitigation calculations are nice, but testing on bosses like olms on pts has shown for me that the skill is really strong, for the basicly nothing u have to do.
Thing is, it adds up, even in fights with a lot of dots ect pp or where u get constant dmg.
For pvp this will be even stronger.
isn't non blocking mitigation limited to 50%?
You can add a crap load of blocking mitigation, 10% from Ironskin, 8% from Absorb Magicka, 20% from the Sword and Board Passive/ ice staff passive, 8% from Footmans, 36% from bound armor and morphs, etc etc. Fun fact, They all stack additive.0
