2h bow does solid damage but it's not gonna out parse Dw bow.

That youtuber just shows an option for those who want to use a 2h build, esp for stam classes that lack an execute aka stam sorc, stam dk, and stam warden, stamplar. It's honestly really sad that stamblade is the only stam class with a class execute

So if you're talking about the most dmg, then no, you wouldn't use a 2h build

SoLooney wrote: »

2h bow does solid damage but it's not gonna out parse Dw bow.

That youtuber just shows an option for those who want to use a 2h build, esp for stam classes that lack an execute aka stam sorc, stam dk, and stam warden, stamplar. It's honestly really sad that stamblade is the only stam class with a class execute

So if you're talking about the most dmg, then no, you wouldn't use a 2h build

Yeah I'm staying Stamplar duelwield with my 45k dps. I was just posting this for anyone who may want to change it up. Maybe ZOS will buff stams who knows

After trying several different setups - including a 2h / bow build with Leviathan / Relequen, Master 2H and VMA bow on PTS, you can definitely try it out in raid. The new Carve is finally a good ability and combined with the master 2h makes for some juicy AoE capabilities (althought you do lose quite a bit of damage if you pick the Brawler morph for single target fights).

The fact that DW has daggers does weight quite a bit in this however, since 10% critical chance beats the 6% damage increase in pretty much all PvE scenarios.

bulcke10 wrote: »

SoLooney wrote: »

2h bow does solid damage but it's not gonna out parse Dw bow.

That youtuber just shows an option for those who want to use a 2h build, esp for stam classes that lack an execute aka stam sorc, stam dk, and stam warden, stamplar. It's honestly really sad that stamblade is the only stam class with a class execute

So if you're talking about the most dmg, then no, you wouldn't use a 2h build

The dmg difference is 400 in dps but 2h have much better sustain... And a finisher

A 2H is also way more fun in my opinion. Swinging tiny daggers vs a giant axe or sword, there is no comparison.

I also use Two-Handed because it's more fun for me. There's something satisfying about standing your ground with half a dozen or more enemies surrounding you, and whacking away at them one by one until you're the only one left standing.

It's hard for me to imagine how anyone could feel even the slightest bit challenged if all they have to do is stand well back from the enemies and blast them with a wand, or lay down a Big Red Circle that disintegrates an entire crowd of enemies within a second or two.

Really? Why are you even bothering to play the game if you're just going to speed-rush through it as quickly as possible so you can grab your loot and hope it includes a bunch of really nice stuff that you just want to sell through the guild traders for astronomical prices? I mean, seriously, just go get a bunch of bots to play the game and farm and grind for you so you don't even have to be bothered with it.

Oh, well, to each his or her own.

I always got better results with two handed over dual wield, it just fits better with how I like to play, also the sustain on two handed is noticeably superior

starkerealm wrote: »

Two handers have a distinct animation timing that can be pretty tricky for some players to get the hang of.

Oh, hell yes! And that timing can get all messed up if there's any lag for any reason. I normally keep my button held down for heavy attacks, but press 1 for my Whack-A-MOB 2H Active Skill (sorry, I can't remember it's name and can't look it up right now). If I get the timing right, my heavy attack restores my Stamina as my 2H Active Skill depletes it, such that I can keep whacking away indefinitely. But if I run into lag, my heavy attacks seem to turn into light attacks and my Stamina depletes.

CipherNine wrote: »

Runefang wrote: »

It’s been viable for ages, just like most semi-sane builds. It’s just not BiS.

The problem is the ESO community has an extreme absurd obsession with the meta.
It's basically this "NO! The game can only be played this way! This is the only way to complete the content!"

It's ridiculous. If you are not in a group that is going for the best score possible then enforcing meta on people is just beyond stupidity. You are gonna kill a boss 10 secs faster. Oh big freaking deal. Not like it matters if your not a leader-board guild.

More that most people follow build guides without understanding that lays behind, this includes me.

One problem with off meta builds is that they often get mixed up with noob builds ala snipe or hard frag spammers.
In an dungeon this will be obvious on first trash.

Smasherx74 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/JjrTLMysuOA

look, 2 hands. Can we finally stop using the duel wield / bow meta?

When I tested 2h on a stam sorc I got 81k...my dw sorc got 87k...they are still 5k apart...

I've been using 2h builds for PvE DPS for years now, I just enjoy it more than dual wielding. Each patch in the past year or so has been narrowing the gap between 2h and dual wielding which is nice. Now with the Elsweyr patch buffing Carve, maybe it'll get even closer.

But really, unless you're in the high end of DPS already, you won't notice much a difference at all between 2h and Dual Wield right now. I'm around 30k DPS, so whether I dual wield or 2h doesn't even change the dps outcome for me by 1k.

starkerealm wrote: »

[... if he really knew what he was doing. This is why you'll see some downright goofy claims from him.

Brass ones. Cool.