BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE PS5 CASUALLY ANNOUNCED?
Peekachu99
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WTF? This dropped out of nowhere. SSD, Navi chip and raytracing. Also backwards compatibility with 4K focus. More details in the Wired article here:
https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/
Key Features:
- CPU: 7nm Zen 2, 8 cores
- GPU: custom Navi, including raytracing support
- SSD + custom interfacing to massively increase bandwith (Spiderman freetravel demo: 15 seconds to 0.8 seconds)
- PS4 Backwards compatibility (other platforms not confirmed)
- Physical media
- PSVR '1' compatible
- on-chip 3D audio support
Obviously this is relevant since this is a platform on which ESO plays. Can’t wait myself. Day one.
Edit: @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Obviously we need an enhanced version on PS5 day one
As you all were so kind with the Pro. Maybe look at cross-platform too?
Edit 2: For those with the drive-by comments, the Wired interview is at Sony HQ watching live demos on a next gen “PS5” dev kit. Do read the link before commenting. It’s hard, I know, but try.
Edited by Peekachu99 on April 16, 2019 2:30PM https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/
Key Features:
- CPU: 7nm Zen 2, 8 cores
- GPU: custom Navi, including raytracing support
- SSD + custom interfacing to massively increase bandwith (Spiderman freetravel demo: 15 seconds to 0.8 seconds)
- PS4 Backwards compatibility (other platforms not confirmed)
- Physical media
- PSVR '1' compatible
- on-chip 3D audio support
Obviously this is relevant since this is a platform on which ESO plays. Can’t wait myself. Day one.
Edit: @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Obviously we need an enhanced version on PS5 day one
As you all were so kind with the Pro. Maybe look at cross-platform too?Edit 2: For those with the drive-by comments, the Wired interview is at Sony HQ watching live demos on a next gen “PS5” dev kit. Do read the link before commenting. It’s hard, I know, but try.
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✭✭xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »
Pointless commentary that ignores 2/3 of the player base as well as the other 90% of the remaining third with terrible hardware. Keep this crap out of the thread please.
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✭✭✭✭✭That's nothing more than speculation.
But It will almost certainly be using AMD since AMD is cheaper than Intel/Nvidia and Sony/MS already have a relationship with them.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't just build your own AMD PC though. For like $1000-1500, you can build a rig many times more powerful than the PS5.Edited by MLGProPlayer on April 16, 2019 2:28PM6 -
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✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »That's nothing more than speculation.
But It will almost certainly be using AMD since they are cheaper and Sony/MS already have a relationship with them.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't just build your own AMD PC though. For like $1000-1500, you can build a rig many times more powerful than the PS5.
It’s an interview with Mark Cerny (lead hardware designer) at Sony HQ with demos on a PS5 dev kit. Helps to read the actual link, maybe?Edited by Peekachu99 on April 16, 2019 2:31PM7 -
jhall03✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »That's nothing more than speculation.
But It will almost certainly be using AMD since AMD is cheaper than Intel/Nvidia and Sony/MS already have a relationship with them.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't just build your own AMD PC though. For like $1000-1500, you can build a rig many times more powerful than the PS5.
Ah yes, the "just build a PC argument "
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✭✭✭✭✭Peekachu99 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »That's nothing more than speculation.
But It will almost certainly be using AMD since they are cheaper and Sony/MS already have a relationship with them.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't just build your own AMD PC though. For like $1000-1500, you can build a rig many times more powerful than the PS5.
It’s an interview with Mark Cerny at Sony HQ with demos on a PS5 dev kit. Helps to read the actual link, maybe?
He literally says nothing in the interview. He just throws some marketing buzz words around. The rest of the article is speculation by Wired.
Both the Xbox Two (or whatever they call it) and PS5 will be running on some low/mid-end Zen 2 and Navi APU. It'll be the same as any other console generation in terms of what to expect.Edited by MLGProPlayer on April 16, 2019 2:34PM3 -
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✭✭I've heard they were going to make them backwards compatible a while ago so I'm glad to hear more of the same good news. ESO has a strong presence on all platforms and PS4 is no exception. Keep it going Sony!2 -
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✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »That's nothing more than speculation.
But It will almost certainly be using AMD since they are cheaper and Sony/MS already have a relationship with them.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't just build your own AMD PC though. For like $1000-1500, you can build a rig many times more powerful than the PS5.
It’s an interview with Mark Cerny at Sony HQ with demos on a PS5 dev kit. Helps to read the actual link, maybe?
He literally says nothing in the interview. He just throws some marketing buzz words around. The rest of the article is speculation by Wired.
Both the Xbox Two (or whatever they call it) and PS5 will be running on some low/mid-end Zen 2 and Navi APU.
I love how you always double down on being obtuse. I can’t properly share Tweets, but go look up Lisa Su from AMD who validates the specs given out in the article. And again, READ the article maybe. My God. Anyway there’s a reason I have you on ignore, so no more clicking on whatever thoughtlessness is hidden.10 -
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✭✭✭✭✭bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »Why would anyone want to buy a Playstation?
I've got a PC and a PS4. Different games on different systems. /shrug
(I certainly don't try to play FPS or other 'much better with a mouse & keyboard' games on the console. I can't hit the broad side of a barn with a controller.)3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I've heard they were going to make them backwards compatible a while ago so I'm glad to hear more of the same good news. ESO has a strong presence on all platforms and PS4 is no exception. Keep it going Sony!
Console manufacturers getting rid of backwards compatibility was the biggest cash grab ever. It was just an excuse to sell you "re-mastered" versions of games you already own.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »I've heard they were going to make them backwards compatible a while ago so I'm glad to hear more of the same good news. ESO has a strong presence on all platforms and PS4 is no exception. Keep it going Sony!
Console manufacturers getting rid of backwards compatibility was the biggest cash grab ever. It was just an excuse to sell you "re-mastered" versions of games you already own.
Of course, in the case of the PS3 with it's crazy architecture, BC on PS4 was always going to be problematic. Assuming that the PS4/PS5 generation will likely have similar hardware & coding, it would be a lot easier.Edited by Kiralyn2000 on April 16, 2019 2:46PM1 -
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✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »I've heard they were going to make them backwards compatible a while ago so I'm glad to hear more of the same good news. ESO has a strong presence on all platforms and PS4 is no exception. Keep it going Sony!
Console manufacturers getting rid of backwards compatibility was the biggest cash grab ever. It was just an excuse to sell you "re-mastered" versions of games you already own.
lol, yeah very true! I was sucked into the Dark Souls remastered like a kid to candy, lmao
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Vasoka✭✭✭✭Peekachu99 wrote: »xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »
Pointless commentary that ignores 2/3 of the player base as well as the other 90% of the remaining third with terrible hardware. Keep this crap out of the thread please.
What a salty little man, there's 0 reason to play ESO on PS - zero, nada, nope, none. PS should only be used for PS exclusives, it offers absolutely no benefits (it's not even anywhere near on par) over PC gaming.MLGProPlayer wrote: »That's nothing more than speculation.
But It will almost certainly be using AMD since AMD is cheaper than Intel/Nvidia and Sony/MS already have a relationship with them.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't just build your own AMD PC though. For like $1000-1500, you can build a rig many times more powerful than the PS5.
Ah yes, the "just build a PC argument "
Yes, do that. If you're gonna give 400-500 EUR for a PS, you can get a PC which outperforms it in every single aspect for that money.
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Edit: on a more serious note I’m not 100% sure how I feel about the disc-less Xbox that’s coming out... probably disappointed tho bc most of my games are on a discEdited by Reistr_the_Unbroken on April 16, 2019 2:52PM0 -
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✭✭Peekachu99 wrote: »xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »
Pointless commentary that ignores 2/3 of the player base as well as the other 90% of the remaining third with terrible hardware. Keep this crap out of the thread please.
What a salty little man, there's 0 reason to play ESO on PS - zero, nada, nope, none. PS should only be used for PS exclusives, it offers absolutely no benefits (it's not even anywhere near on par) over PC gaming.MLGProPlayer wrote: »That's nothing more than speculation.
But It will almost certainly be using AMD since AMD is cheaper than Intel/Nvidia and Sony/MS already have a relationship with them.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't just build your own AMD PC though. For like $1000-1500, you can build a rig many times more powerful than the PS5.
Ah yes, the "just build a PC argument "
Yes, do that. If you're gonna give 400-500 EUR for a PS, you can get a PC which outperforms it in every single aspect for that money.
I’ve played on console and PC extensively since beta and universal voice chat for every piece of content as well as plug and play simplicity is something you can’t just hand wave away.
Not salty at all, either. I just don’t see why something we should be celebrating as a community—more hardware for more members of the ESO community—needs to be immediately crapped up with PC master race memes. More saddened by the predictable responses to other people’s joy. Maybe examine your need to feel superior and/ or rude to others who are gladdened by the announcement of next generation hardware?10 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Peekachu99 wrote: »xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »
Pointless commentary that ignores 2/3 of the player base as well as the other 90% of the remaining third with terrible hardware. Keep this crap out of the thread please.
What a salty little man, there's 0 reason to play ESO on PS - zero, nada, nope, none. PS should only be used for PS exclusives, it offers absolutely no benefits (it's not even anywhere near on par) over PC gaming.MLGProPlayer wrote: »That's nothing more than speculation.
But It will almost certainly be using AMD since AMD is cheaper than Intel/Nvidia and Sony/MS already have a relationship with them.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't just build your own AMD PC though. For like $1000-1500, you can build a rig many times more powerful than the PS5.
Ah yes, the "just build a PC argument "
Yes, do that. If you're gonna give 400-500 EUR for a PS, you can get a PC which outperforms it in every single aspect for that money.
You're not going to get a better PC for the same price as a console. But if you're willing to spend a little more, you can get a beast. The low-end PC market isn't good value.7 -
Synnastix✭✭✭✭Peekachu99 wrote: »
I’ve played on console and PC extensively since beta and universal voice chat for every piece of content as well as plug and play simplicity is something you can’t just hand wave away.
Not salty at all, either. I just don’t see why something we should be celebrating as a community—more hardware for more members of the ESO community—needs to be immediately crapped up with PC master race memes. More saddened by the predictable responses to other people’s joy. Maybe examine your need to feel superior and/ or rude to others who are gladdened by the announcement of next generation hardware?
^ this +1
Built in voice chat makes a massive difference, and there are other things that are hard to make up for w/ PC.
I only need a controller on console to boot, play games, watch videos, etc, instead of 2-3 peripherals to have a good time. I can controller from just about any position while kb/m needs certain surfaces / arm space to work right. Everything just works - no driver incompatibilities and other issues to figure out. It’s super easy to move my PS4 from room to room or to hotels, friends’ places, etc, vs moving a PC around. Now you could argue for a laptop but then your argument on PC having a better price point would go out the window.
That said, there are good things about PC too, mostly that graphics “can be” better and smoother. Mods can make or break some folks in combat and help with things like finding skyshards/books. You can also get into your account and play from multiple devices - I use my tower for real sessions and use an old *** laptop when I just need to do simple tasks like crafting while watching tv. You can also controller if you like, once you’re logged in of course.
Anecdotally playing on both platforms all week I have to say that PS4 seems more populated than PC as well, which surprised me last year too as I really thought the player base would be bigger on PC. And I know this is going to be seen as flame bait but I would argue that having to play without combat mods makes a lot of PS4 players better. Taking down bosses all week on both platforms, it often took fewer PS4 players to get the job done while it was a struggle on PC. Again this is just my experience so ymmv.
In the end there’s no need to dump on either platform, both offer a good experience but I would like to see a PS5 version with graphics equal to PC. We’re talking about ESO here, not modded Skyrim.12 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »That's nothing more than speculation.
But It will almost certainly be using AMD since AMD is cheaper than Intel/Nvidia and Sony/MS already have a relationship with them.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't just build your own AMD PC though. For like $1000-1500, you can build a rig many times more powerful than the PS5.
With 100% more headaches.
And this coming from a PC enthusiast. lolEdited by TequilaFire on April 16, 2019 3:16PM5 -
SanguineMyBrother✭✭✭✭Hey console friend! This is exciting news. I'm eagerly awaiting anything about the new Xbox Xbox NA • Magwarden Main6 -
shimm✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »That's nothing more than speculation.
But It will almost certainly be using AMD since AMD is cheaper than Intel/Nvidia and Sony/MS already have a relationship with them.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't just build your own AMD PC though. For like $1000-1500, you can build a rig many times more powerful than the PS5.
Not sure where you get pc parts from... you couldn’t build something off the shelf that’s many times more powerful than the proposed ps5. You’d probably spend $1500 making the equivalent. Nvidia 1070s are still close to $400 (roughly the same as a ps 4 pro or Xbox one x), 2080s are close to $800. The cheap pc that ultras everything is a lie. Yes it’s ultimately a better experience, but you pay for it.3 -
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✭Peekachu99 wrote: »xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »
Pointless commentary that ignores 2/3 of the player base as well as the other 90% of the remaining third with terrible hardware. Keep this crap out of the thread please.
seeing as PC EU is the only server thats overpopulated, the 2/3 is not true xD
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✭I play on console because:- I'm on a budget
- I have easy access to a vast, inexpensive library of kid-friendly games for my kids
- A controller that comes as standard equipment and can be mastered much easier sitting reclined on my couch than keybinds and mouse clicks (by both me and the kids)
- It's portable (vacations, day-trips, etc.)
- Don't have to worry about after-hours pc viewing habits infecting my gaming system
- I know when I finally completed a vet trial / vMA it was my skill and not some computer program telling me when to push the 'X' button or roll-dodge
- Functional Temperamental voice chat
- Alternate uses (Netflix, Blu-Ray, DVD, etc)
So I'm always glad when backward compatibility is announced so when the time does come to upgrade I'm not leaving my entire game library in the wind.
Duplicate entry.Edited by Feric51 on April 16, 2019 5:07PMFeric51
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Number 4 is the biggest for me, I work on the boats (freighters, container ships and chemical/oil tanker ships) so I am gone for 6 months scattered throughout the year and being able to just take my PS with me is perfect. I cant imagine someone actually bringing a tower and a monitor just to game especially when I have to fly out to meet the ship wherever it is. You just cant bring that much luggage nor would you.I play on console because:- I'm on a budget
- I have easy access to a vast, inexpensive library of kid-friendly games for my kids
- A controller that comes as standard equipment and can be mastered much easier sitting reclined on my couch than keybinds and mouse clicks (by both me and the kids)
- It's portable (vacations, day-trips, etc.)
- Don't have to worry about after-hours pc viewing habits infecting my gaming system
- I know when I finally completed a vet trial / vMA it was my skill and not some computer program telling me when to push the 'X' button or roll-dodge
- Voice chat
- Functional Temperamental voice chat
- Alternate uses (Netflix, Blu-Ray, DVD, etc)
So I'm always glad when backward compatibility is announced so when the time does come to upgrade I'm not leaving my entire game library in the wind.1 -
xan4silkb14_ESO✭✭✭✭IronWooshu wrote: »
Number 4 is the biggest for me, I work on the boats (freighters, container ships and chemical/oil tanker ships) so I am gone for 6 months scattered throughout the year and being able to just take my PS with me is perfect. I cant imagine someone actually bringing a tower and a monitor just to game especially when I have to fly out to meet the ship wherever it is. You just cant bring that much luggage nor would you.I play on console because:- I'm on a budget
- I have easy access to a vast, inexpensive library of kid-friendly games for my kids
- A controller that comes as standard equipment and can be mastered much easier sitting reclined on my couch than keybinds and mouse clicks (by both me and the kids)
- It's portable (vacations, day-trips, etc.)
- Don't have to worry about after-hours pc viewing habits infecting my gaming system
- I know when I finally completed a vet trial / vMA it was my skill and not some computer program telling me when to push the 'X' button or roll-dodge
- Voice chat
- Functional Temperamental voice chat
- Alternate uses (Netflix, Blu-Ray, DVD, etc)
So I'm always glad when backward compatibility is announced so when the time does come to upgrade I'm not leaving my entire game library in the wind.
Ever hear of the portable PC? I think they call them laptops and the screen is attached right to the rest of the machine.0 -
jhall03✭✭✭✭Peekachu99 wrote: »xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »
Pointless commentary that ignores 2/3 of the player base as well as the other 90% of the remaining third with terrible hardware. Keep this crap out of the thread please.
What a salty little man, there's 0 reason to play ESO on PS - zero, nada, nope, none. PS should only be used for PS exclusives, it offers absolutely no benefits (it's not even anywhere near on par) over PC gaming.MLGProPlayer wrote: »That's nothing more than speculation.
But It will almost certainly be using AMD since AMD is cheaper than Intel/Nvidia and Sony/MS already have a relationship with them.
I'm not sure why you wouldn't just build your own AMD PC though. For like $1000-1500, you can build a rig many times more powerful than the PS5.
Ah yes, the "just build a PC argument "
Yes, do that. If you're gonna give 400-500 EUR for a PS, you can get a PC which outperforms it in every single aspect for that money.
No, I won't. Stop trying to pish people to build a PC as if we haven't weighed the pros and cons5
