BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE PS5 CASUALLY ANNOUNCED?

Nemesis7884

IronWooshu wrote: »

Feric51 wrote: »

I play on console because:

1. I'm on a budget
2. I have easy access to a vast, inexpensive library of kid-friendly games for my kids
3. A controller that comes as standard equipment and can be mastered much easier sitting reclined on my couch than keybinds and mouse clicks (by both me and the kids)
4. It's portable (vacations, day-trips, etc.)
5. Don't have to worry about after-hours pc viewing habits infecting my gaming system
6. I know when I finally completed a vet trial / vMA it was my skill and not some computer program telling me when to push the 'X' button or roll-dodge
7. Voice chat
8. Functional Temperamental voice chat
9. Alternate uses (Netflix, Blu-Ray, DVD, etc)

So I'm always glad when backward compatibility is announced so when the time does come to upgrade I'm not leaving my entire game library in the wind.

Number 4 is the biggest for me, I work on the boats (freighters, container ships and chemical/oil tanker ships) so I am gone for 6 months scattered throughout the year and being able to just take my PS with me is perfect. I cant imagine someone actually bringing a tower and a monitor just to game especially when I have to fly out to meet the ship wherever it is. You just cant bring that much luggage nor would you.

so just my two cents - while a console is more portable and becomes increasingly more interesting with increasing power - i have a high end pc in a node 304 case which is highly portable, barely bigger than a console and i connect it to the (4k) tv - and u usually have a tv everywhere you go so...

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Just get a PC. Seriously. It runs games better and you can also do literally everything else a computer can do.

As an Xbox owner I can assure you that consoles do not have full desktop capacity.

Unless that changes with the next batch of consoles, PC is still better by grace that it can be used for many things other than gaming and streaming Netflix.

Also mods for Skyrim. Just saying... No, the pathetic "mod experience" on Xbox for a whopping two games does not count.

starkerealm

cheifsoap wrote: »

This is awesome but this pC mAsTeR rAcE crap is asinine.

As someone who primarily games on PC... yes, it really is. There was one funny joke from Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw a decade ago that has since been run into the ground.

Synnastix

Quick check for anyone else with accounts on both - if you go to the same major areas, at the same time of day, do you see more other players on console or PC?

My experience is PS4 population >>> PC, but it could be time of day. Just wondering what you guys see and how that might relate to the debate.

NeillMcAttack

Personally, as a PS4 player last gen, I don't think gamers, If they have any respect for the industry, should support playstation into the future.
Their attitude toward cross-platform play is far too anti-consumer!

Should this change they become the obvious choice though, their support for quality single player experiences is un-paralleled.

BalticBlues

I played ESO both on PC and PS4 and switched to PS4. Nothing is better than playing beautiful ESO on a huge TV in a comfortable chair with a premium controller. And I cannot wait for the PS5 to get an even more beautiful and fluid ESO in my living room.

NeillMcAttack

jonswowgothackedub17_ESO wrote: »

Quick check for anyone else with accounts on both - if you go to the same major areas, at the same time of day, do you see more other players on console or PC?

My experience is PS4 population >>> PC, but it could be time of day. Just wondering what you guys see and how that might relate to the debate.

Similar experience on both really, though i find the more recluse areas, and out of the way regions more popular on PC. And if the campaigns are anything to go by, PC is much healthier. Plus the game is just far superior on PC right now.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

Peekachu99 wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

Pointless commentary that ignores 2/3 of the player base as well as the other 90% of the remaining third with terrible hardware. Keep this crap out of the thread please.

this just proves the point lol

Ohtimbar

Noice. Day one purchase for me, just like the first four.

Bomber293

Peekachu99 wrote: »

WTF? This dropped out of nowhere. SSD, Navi chip and raytracing. Also backwards compatibility with 4K focus. More details in the Wired article here:

https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/

Key Features:
- CPU: 7nm Zen 2, 8 cores
- GPU: custom Navi, including raytracing support
- SSD + custom interfacing to massively increase bandwith (Spiderman freetravel demo: 15 seconds to 0.8 seconds)
- PS4 Backwards compatibility (other platforms not confirmed)
- Physical media
- PSVR '1' compatible
- on-chip 3D audio support

Obviously this is relevant since this is a platform on which ESO plays. Can’t wait myself. Day one.

Edit: @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Obviously we need an enhanced version on PS5 day one As you all were so kind with the Pro. Maybe look at cross-platform too?

Edit 2: For those with the drive-by comments, the Wired interview is at Sony HQ watching live demos on a next gen “PS5” dev kit. Do read the link before commenting. It’s hard, I know, but try.

cross platform play? I don't think that ps4 and ps5 will have diffrent servers.
If you mean PC and consol i can tell you it will not happen (wich is good)

Nemesis7884

BalticBlues wrote: »

I played ESO both on PC and PS4 and switched to PS4. Nothing is better than playing beautiful ESO on a huge TV in a comfortable chair with a premium controller. And I cannot wait for the PS5 to get an even more beautiful and fluid ESO in my living room.

im doing the same on my pc...just in 4k with ultra details and 60 fps

randomkeyhits

Pretty much as expected really, an evolution rather than revolution.

Conduit0

As soon as Sony and MS switched from using custom architectures to using the x86 architecture future backwards compatibility became inevitable.

Peekachu99

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

Pointless commentary that ignores 2/3 of the player base as well as the other 90% of the remaining third with terrible hardware. Keep this crap out of the thread please.

this just proves the point lol

I proved that you made pointless incendiary commentary? Technically you proved that by posting that in the first place. I’m reminded of the “I don’t like thing!” gif, which is especially relevant for about half the posters in this thread.

You don’t have to like consoles, but you probably should have a basic respect for them and their players since they’ve been keeping the lights on in this game.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

BalticBlues wrote: »

I played ESO both on PC and PS4 and switched to PS4. Nothing is better than playing beautiful ESO on a huge TV in a comfortable chair with a premium controller. And I cannot wait for the PS5 to get an even more beautiful and fluid ESO in my living room.

im doing the same on my pc...just in 4k with ultra details and 60 fps

/brofist
lets show them how tis dun!

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

Peekachu99 wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

Pointless commentary that ignores 2/3 of the player base as well as the other 90% of the remaining third with terrible hardware. Keep this crap out of the thread please.

this just proves the point lol

I proved that you made pointless incendiary commentary? Technically you proved that by posting that in the first place. I’m reminded of the “I don’t like thing!” gif, which is especially relevant for about half the posters in this thread.

You don’t have to like consoles, but you probably should have a basic respect for them and their players since they’ve been keeping the lights on in this game.

my point was that PC does a better job than consoles...I have a different opinion regarding consoles but you know why PC will always be top over consoles? no graphics...no higher FPS...no ultra performant top notch hardware...nothing of this matter...but just 1 simple small yet important thing...
ADDONS that's something that sadly will always top pc vs consoles and others...and yes some people came with good arguments on why consoles are nice to have most I never thought of them cuz I was never in such a situation...but I was strictly referring on ESO side...and frankly I played eso on xbox/ps4 as well...compared to the pc its just...not that good sure nice updated for consoles are always welcome and not just for consoles but all platforms...its just that some platforms will perform better than others...

Peekachu99

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

Pointless commentary that ignores 2/3 of the player base as well as the other 90% of the remaining third with terrible hardware. Keep this crap out of the thread please.

this just proves the point lol

I proved that you made pointless incendiary commentary? Technically you proved that by posting that in the first place. I’m reminded of the “I don’t like thing!” gif, which is especially relevant for about half the posters in this thread.

You don’t have to like consoles, but you probably should have a basic respect for them and their players since they’ve been keeping the lights on in this game.

my point was that PC does a better job than consoles...I have a different opinion regarding consoles but you know why PC will always be top over consoles? no graphics...no higher FPS...no ultra performant top notch hardware...nothing of this matter...but just 1 simple small yet important thing...
ADDONS that's something that sadly will always top pc vs consoles and others...and yes some people came with good arguments on why consoles are nice to have most I never thought of them cuz I was never in such a situation...but I was strictly referring on ESO side...and frankly I played eso on xbox/ps4 as well...compared to the pc its just...not that good sure nice updated for consoles are always welcome and not just for consoles but all platforms...its just that some platforms will perform better than others...

If you’re point was “PC does a better job at overall tasks than consoles (which is not empirically sound and discounts the varieties of PCs on the market while focusing on some perfect MEGA PC ideal), then you could have just said that, though? And what relevance does that even have to me posting the first news of a next gen console on which ESO will almost assuredly be supported? How does that impact you, who clearly have no interest in consoles—and yet enough interest to drudge up a tired meme for a reply.

You wanted to farm likes and awesomes with a tired “PC Master Race” bs. That’s what actually happened, not what you’re telling yourself. Just be honest about it and move on to another thread that actually interests you instead of wasting time with the console peasants you so despise.

TequilaFire

Got to love kids arguing over who's toy is better. lol
In the meantime I am waiting for my PC to install updates again so I can get on the PTS.

Peekachu99

TequilaFire wrote: »

Got to love kids arguing over who's toy is better. lol

TequilaFire wrote: »

Got to love kids arguing over who's toy is better. lol

I don’t understand why there even has to be arguing. We should be celebrating the continuation of our communal hobby on any and all platforms. It’s ridiculous and that first poster couldn’t even behave themselves for 1s to post something positive.

TequilaFire

Reminds me of when we used to argue over who['s car was better in high school.

IronWooshu

xan4silkb14_ESO wrote: »

IronWooshu wrote: »

Feric51 wrote: »

I play on console because:

1. I'm on a budget
2. I have easy access to a vast, inexpensive library of kid-friendly games for my kids
3. A controller that comes as standard equipment and can be mastered much easier sitting reclined on my couch than keybinds and mouse clicks (by both me and the kids)
4. It's portable (vacations, day-trips, etc.)
5. Don't have to worry about after-hours pc viewing habits infecting my gaming system
6. I know when I finally completed a vet trial / vMA it was my skill and not some computer program telling me when to push the 'X' button or roll-dodge
7. Voice chat
8. Functional Temperamental voice chat
9. Alternate uses (Netflix, Blu-Ray, DVD, etc)

So I'm always glad when backward compatibility is announced so when the time does come to upgrade I'm not leaving my entire game library in the wind.

Number 4 is the biggest for me, I work on the boats (freighters, container ships and chemical/oil tanker ships) so I am gone for 6 months scattered throughout the year and being able to just take my PS with me is perfect. I cant imagine someone actually bringing a tower and a monitor just to game especially when I have to fly out to meet the ship wherever it is. You just cant bring that much luggage nor would you.

Ever hear of the portable PC? I think they call them laptops and the screen is attached right to the rest of the machine.

whats the difference between a laptop and PS? Both will become outdated since you cant change the hardware on a laptop like you can a PC.

Honestly you PC nerds are more annoying by the minute.

Peekachu99

jonswowgothackedub17_ESO wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

I’ve played on console and PC extensively since beta and universal voice chat for every piece of content as well as plug and play simplicity is something you can’t just hand wave away.

Not salty at all, either. I just don’t see why something we should be celebrating as a community—more hardware for more members of the ESO community—needs to be immediately crapped up with PC master race memes. More saddened by the predictable responses to other people’s joy. Maybe examine your need to feel superior and/ or rude to others who are gladdened by the announcement of next generation hardware?

^ this +1

Built in voice chat makes a massive difference, and there are other things that are hard to make up for w/ PC.

I only need a controller on console to boot, play games, watch videos, etc, instead of 2-3 peripherals to have a good time. I can controller from just about any position while kb/m needs certain surfaces / arm space to work right. Everything just works - no driver incompatibilities and other issues to figure out. It’s super easy to move my PS4 from room to room or to hotels, friends’ places, etc, vs moving a PC around. Now you could argue for a laptop but then your argument on PC having a better price point would go out the window.

That said, there are good things about PC too, mostly that graphics “can be” better and smoother. Mods can make or break some folks in combat and help with things like finding skyshards/books. You can also get into your account and play from multiple devices - I use my tower for real sessions and use an old *** laptop when I just need to do simple tasks like crafting while watching tv. You can also controller if you like, once you’re logged in of course.

Anecdotally playing on both platforms all week I have to say that PS4 seems more populated than PC as well, which surprised me last year too as I really thought the player base would be bigger on PC. And I know this is going to be seen as flame bait but I would argue that having to play without combat mods makes a lot of PS4 players better. Taking down bosses all week on both platforms, it often took fewer PS4 players to get the job done while it was a struggle on PC. Again this is just my experience so ymmv.

In the end there’s no need to dump on either platform, both offer a good experience but I would like to see a PS5 version with graphics equal to PC. We’re talking about ESO here, not modded Skyrim.

All anecdotal, and I’ve said this a few times, but all of my Vet HM clears/ skins were done on console via PUGS in a matter of weeks when I xferred back (2nd time to PS4). Good luck doing that on PC. Average player barely hops into Discord. I think it’s also the arcadey nature of the game that naturally suits console gamer’s reaction times and muscle memory better.

zaria

xan4silkb14_ESO wrote: »

IronWooshu wrote: »

Feric51 wrote: »

I play on console because:

1. I'm on a budget
2. I have easy access to a vast, inexpensive library of kid-friendly games for my kids
3. A controller that comes as standard equipment and can be mastered much easier sitting reclined on my couch than keybinds and mouse clicks (by both me and the kids)
4. It's portable (vacations, day-trips, etc.)
5. Don't have to worry about after-hours pc viewing habits infecting my gaming system
6. I know when I finally completed a vet trial / vMA it was my skill and not some computer program telling me when to push the 'X' button or roll-dodge
7. Voice chat
8. Functional Temperamental voice chat
9. Alternate uses (Netflix, Blu-Ray, DVD, etc)

So I'm always glad when backward compatibility is announced so when the time does come to upgrade I'm not leaving my entire game library in the wind.

Number 4 is the biggest for me, I work on the boats (freighters, container ships and chemical/oil tanker ships) so I am gone for 6 months scattered throughout the year and being able to just take my PS with me is perfect. I cant imagine someone actually bringing a tower and a monitor just to game especially when I have to fly out to meet the ship wherever it is. You just cant bring that much luggage nor would you.

Ever hear of the portable PC? I think they call them laptops and the screen is attached right to the rest of the machine.

Yes, but an good gaming laptop is pretty expensive as in $3K for something like an ps5.
PS5 looks very good and it will impact pc gaming as in moving the goalposts.

Prof_Bawbag

"Just build you own pc"

If only PC gaming was that simple, huh? The reality is often very different. I'll stick with my peasant machine because it's plug in and play. None of this arsing around with settings, finding drivers etc when you inevitably get a game that simply doesn't do as it's told on the first boot up. Folk tend to only post the end result when it comes to PC gaming. Anyone that claims PC gaming is plain sailing is either deluded or lying. Great once you've wasted hours on some games, it's no contest really, but like i said, the plug in and play nature of consoles vastly out weight the benefits of PC gaming for me personally. Not got time nor patience to set up *** or try to find the cause to crashes etc.

starkerealm

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

"Just build you own pc"

If only PC gaming was that simple, huh? The reality is often very different. I'll stick with my peasant machine because it's plug in and play. None of this arsing around with settings, finding drivers etc when you inevitably get a game that simply doesn't do as it's told on the first boot up. Folk tend to only post the end result when it comes to PC gaming. Anyone that claims PC gaming is plain sailing is either deluded or lying. Great once you've wasted hours on some games, it's no contest really, but like i said, the plug in and play nature of consoles vastly out weight the benefits of PC gaming for me personally. Not got time nor patience to set up *** or try to find the cause to crashes etc.

For what it's worth, there are communities. Over on Twitch, Tech&Junk has been migrating over from PS4NA to PCNA, and as a result, he's dedicated an entire section of his discord to building computers. So, if you want to take that plunge, maybe worth checking out.

ArchMikem

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Vasoka wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

Pointless commentary that ignores 2/3 of the player base as well as the other 90% of the remaining third with terrible hardware. Keep this crap out of the thread please.

What a salty little man, there's 0 reason to play ESO on PS - zero, nada, nope, none. PS should only be used for PS exclusives, it offers absolutely no benefits (it's not even anywhere near on par) over PC gaming.

jhall03 wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

That's nothing more than speculation.

But It will almost certainly be using AMD since AMD is cheaper than Intel/Nvidia and Sony/MS already have a relationship with them.

I'm not sure why you wouldn't just build your own AMD PC though. For like $1000-1500, you can build a rig many times more powerful than the PS5.

Ah yes, the "just build a PC argument "

Yes, do that. If you're gonna give 400-500 EUR for a PS, you can get a PC which outperforms it in every single aspect for that money.

You're not going to get a better PC for the same price as a console. But if you're willing to spend a little more, you can get a beast. The low-end PC market isn't good value.

$1k - $1,500 isnt "a little more" at all. That's 1 1/2 paychecks for me and ive got bills to help pay. Thats the main reason why so many choose Consoles. Economy gaming.

Davor

This is fake. There are not suppose to be anymore consoles released anymore. That is what the professionals said after all. Did not all these "professionals" said there would be no more consoles and the Xbox One and PS4 are suppose to be the last consoles ever. Oh well, so much for these professionals and people who think they know things.

Looks good. Looks expensive. I wonder how the PS 4 players are going to accept the price since they mocked the Xbox. I hate to see what Xbox will be charging as well. There is a reason why there is no SSD, to keep costs down.

Well time will tell. I am looking forward to this since console is my choice of platform now.

Reverb

Feric51 wrote: »

I play on console because:

1. I'm on a budget
2. I have easy access to a vast, inexpensive library of kid-friendly games for my kids
3. A controller that comes as standard equipment and can be mastered much easier sitting reclined on my couch than keybinds and mouse clicks (by both me and the kids)
4. It's portable (vacations, day-trips, etc.)
5. Don't have to worry about after-hours pc viewing habits infecting my gaming system
6. I know when I finally completed a vet trial / vMA it was my skill and not some computer program telling me when to push the 'X' button or roll-dodge
7. Functional Temperamental voice chat
8. Alternate uses (Netflix, Blu-Ray, DVD, etc)

So I'm always glad when backward compatibility is announced so when the time does come to upgrade I'm not leaving my entire game library in the wind.


Duplicate entry.

All valid reasons

Reistr_the_Unbroken

And people wonder why some hate PC, they never stop talking about it and try to force it down people’s throats

MikaHR

ArchMikem wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Vasoka wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

Pointless commentary that ignores 2/3 of the player base as well as the other 90% of the remaining third with terrible hardware. Keep this crap out of the thread please.

What a salty little man, there's 0 reason to play ESO on PS - zero, nada, nope, none. PS should only be used for PS exclusives, it offers absolutely no benefits (it's not even anywhere near on par) over PC gaming.

jhall03 wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

That's nothing more than speculation.

But It will almost certainly be using AMD since AMD is cheaper than Intel/Nvidia and Sony/MS already have a relationship with them.

I'm not sure why you wouldn't just build your own AMD PC though. For like $1000-1500, you can build a rig many times more powerful than the PS5.

Ah yes, the "just build a PC argument "

Yes, do that. If you're gonna give 400-500 EUR for a PS, you can get a PC which outperforms it in every single aspect for that money.

You're not going to get a better PC for the same price as a console. But if you're willing to spend a little more, you can get a beast. The low-end PC market isn't good value.

$1k - $1,500 isnt "a little more" at all. That's 1 1/2 paychecks for me and ive got bills to help pay. Thats the main reason why so many choose Consoles. Economy gaming.

Not JUST that, many choose it because it gets the job done and hassle free, can do all multimedia stuff out of the box...and its much cheaper than same performance PC (1/3-1/2 of the similar PC)

Im switiching from PC to PS5 when it comes out, not much point in PC gaming any more, and things most have to do on PC like word (and some other software) can be done on 10 years old one.