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Anniversary event experiment
Nerouyn
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Here's my thought of the day.
For weeks 4 and 5 of the event, ZO could temporarily suspend stat, skill and CP respec costs. Compare queue wait times to previous events.
If players aren't financially penalised for speccing to tank for dungeons, more might do it.
Yes, yes, we all know that many dungeons don't actually require a real tank, but we all also know that daily dungeon randoms are just that - random. Some dungeons really do require a proper tank and a faux tank who lands in one of those can only fail badly or leave the group and cop a penalty.
For weeks 4 and 5 of the event, ZO could temporarily suspend stat, skill and CP respec costs. Compare queue wait times to previous events.
If players aren't financially penalised for speccing to tank for dungeons, more might do it.
Yes, yes, we all know that many dungeons don't actually require a real tank, but we all also know that daily dungeon randoms are just that - random. Some dungeons really do require a proper tank and a faux tank who lands in one of those can only fail badly or leave the group and cop a penalty.
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✭✭✭✭✭If you don't do extreme min maxing (which is required only for vet trial HM score runs), you may safely go from PVP/PVEdps to tank role without re-spec of attributes, skills and CP. Only requirement here is ton of sets, ton of skillpoints, ton of different food, dressing room addon, cp600+.
I guess same is for healer/magdps.Edited by MartiniDaniels on April 6, 2019 4:45AM0 -
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✭✭3k for CP, 8k for attribute. and 1-2k for remorph. This is nothing. So no, that wont help. And majority of players that play tanks got a dedicated tanking character in most cases.
The lack of tanks in group finder is easly bound up with the lack of decent dps in group finder. So any decent tank goes rather with a guild group or zone were you can do more check about players before entering a dungeon with them. as a tank you cannot help with dps that much, and if both dps do 5k each. you're there for ages. And noone wants that.Cleared Trials:
- vAA HM - vHRC HM - vSO HM - vMoL HM - vHoF HM - vAS HM - vCR HM -
"The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, and a lot of bitching."
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✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »If you don't do extreme min maxing (which is required only for vet trial HM score runs), you may safely go from PVP/PVEdps to tank role without re-spec of attributes, skills and CP. Only requirement here is ton of sets, ton of skillpoints, ton of different food, dressing room addon, cp600+.
Sure - that's an accurate description of everyone....3k for CP, 8k for attribute. and 1-2k for remorph. This is nothing. So no, that wont help.
Lie.
Pissing away 10k gold would make many players dizzy.
Yay if you if you feel like it's nothing, but no, not everyone is as financially comfortable.2 -
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✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »If you don't do extreme min maxing (which is required only for vet trial HM score runs), you may safely go from PVP/PVEdps to tank role without re-spec of attributes, skills and CP. Only requirement here is ton of sets, ton of skillpoints, ton of different food, dressing room addon, cp600+.
Sure - that's an accurate description of everyone....3k for CP, 8k for attribute. and 1-2k for remorph. This is nothing. So no, that wont help.
Lie.
Pissing away 10k gold would make many players dizzy.
Yay if you if you feel like it's nothing, but no, not everyone is as financially comfortable.
The only people I've met that have said that 10k is a lot of gold, has been the level 3-10's standing in Alinor atm that just started the game with their first character I gave gold.Cleared Trials:
- vAA HM - vHRC HM - vSO HM - vMoL HM - vHoF HM - vAS HM - vCR HM -
"The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, and a lot of bitching."
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Bekkael✭✭✭✭✭I’m CP 712 on 3 characters currently; been playing for 2 years. 10k is a lot of gold to me, especially to waste on frequent respecs.~~ Lady Gamer ~~ ♥ ~~ Xbox NA ~~4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭OP, answer why not so many tanks and healers is discussed daily. In normals they are not needed, in base vets they need to patiently carry their deeps, and pugging dlc vets has point only if you are looking for challenge. While high dps numbers require more mechanical skill then healing and tanking, all the responsibility for mechanics is on tank and responsibility for group mistakes is on healer while rewards are the same. So what's the point to queue on tank/healer with risk of wasting time if you may just queue on dps while doing quests, gathering mats, fishing, housing etc etc...
I queued a lot on tanks when I was farming cp810, now i stopped it completely and do it only if I want to test something.
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✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »If you don't do extreme min maxing (which is required only for vet trial HM score runs), you may safely go from PVP/PVEdps to tank role without re-spec of attributes, skills and CP. Only requirement here is ton of sets, ton of skillpoints, ton of different food, dressing room addon, cp600+.
Sure - that's an accurate description of everyone....3k for CP, 8k for attribute. and 1-2k for remorph. This is nothing. So no, that wont help.
Lie.
Pissing away 10k gold would make many players dizzy.
Yay if you if you feel like it's nothing, but no, not everyone is as financially comfortable.
The only people I've met that have said that 10k is a lot of gold, has been the level 3-10's standing in Alinor atm that just started the game with their first character I gave gold.
I'm max cp with 10 mil gold and still feel 10k is a lot Cuz you know what just like every drop of water counts towards in making an ocean so are the coins
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✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »If you don't do extreme min maxing (which is required only for vet trial HM score runs), you may safely go from PVP/PVEdps to tank role without re-spec of attributes, skills and CP. Only requirement here is ton of sets, ton of skillpoints, ton of different food, dressing room addon, cp600+.
Sure - that's an accurate description of everyone....3k for CP, 8k for attribute. and 1-2k for remorph. This is nothing. So no, that wont help.
Lie.
Pissing away 10k gold would make many players dizzy.
Yay if you if you feel like it's nothing, but no, not everyone is as financially comfortable.
The only people I've met that have said that 10k is a lot of gold, has been the level 3-10's standing in Alinor atm that just started the game with their first character I gave gold.
It all depends on what that 10K is for. If it's 10K gold to get a shorter queue time for a dungeon that takes 30 minutes, then, yea, that's a lot of gold. Even I wouldn't waste gold like that, and I have 8-figure gold.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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✭✭And majority of players that play tanks got a dedicated tanking character in most cases.MartiniDaniels wrote: »If you don't do extreme min maxing (which is required only for vet trial HM score runs), you may safely go from PVP/PVEdps to tank role without re-spec of attributes, skills and CP. Only requirement here is ton of sets, ton of skillpoints, ton of different food, dressing room addon, cp600+.
Sure - that's an accurate description of everyone....3k for CP, 8k for attribute. and 1-2k for remorph. This is nothing. So no, that wont help.
Lie.
Pissing away 10k gold would make many players dizzy.
Yay if you if you feel like it's nothing, but no, not everyone is as financially comfortable.
The only people I've met that have said that 10k is a lot of gold, has been the level 3-10's standing in Alinor atm that just started the game with their first character I gave gold.
It all depends on what that 10K is for. If it's 10K gold to get a shorter queue time for a dungeon that takes 30 minutes, then, yea, that's a lot of gold. Even I wouldn't waste gold like that, and I have 8-figure gold.
Not supposed to be a way to skip the queue. It should be done by people that actually want to tank, and learn how to.
Again, Majority of players that play tank, Got their tank on a dedicated character. Well, new tanks come into the mix all the time, but just as fast as a new tank enters, a old tank leaves. Tanks that have been tanking in group finder for a while, they will end up in guild groups instead. Seeing as that is better served their time than trying to carry 2x 10k dps scrubs trough a dungeon, his mates can do blind in one fifth of the time.
And no, 10k gold is not a lot. I spend 17k on 100 potions, and these are gone is just a few hours. I have six figures, and I still change CPs 5 times or more a day, Morphs at least once a day. But truly, what sum of money you have does not really matter. It's all about the income. And that some players cannot manage their gold is not in any correlation with the lack of tanks.Cleared Trials:
- vAA HM - vHRC HM - vSO HM - vMoL HM - vHoF HM - vAS HM - vCR HM -
"The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, and a lot of bitching."
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✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »If you don't do extreme min maxing (which is required only for vet trial HM score runs), you may safely go from PVP/PVEdps to tank role without re-spec of attributes, skills and CP. Only requirement here is ton of sets, ton of skillpoints, ton of different food, dressing room addon, cp600+.
Sure - that's an accurate description of everyone....3k for CP, 8k for attribute. and 1-2k for remorph. This is nothing. So no, that wont help.
Lie.
Pissing away 10k gold would make many players dizzy.
Yay if you if you feel like it's nothing, but no, not everyone is as financially comfortable.
The only people I've met that have said that 10k is a lot of gold, has been the level 3-10's standing in Alinor atm that just started the game with their first character I gave gold.
It may not be "a lot" in the scheme of things, but most people would not be happy (and many would not be able) to spend 10K on a regular basis, for essentially nothing in return.
For one thing, people have other things they want to buy and if they did this, unless they are a trader in a big guild (and/or play a lot), they probably wouldn't be able to do both.
Re-speccing should be free (and easy), all the time.Edited by Tigerseye on April 7, 2019 12:22PM0