zvavi wrote: »

Don't know, once I didn't get bounty. Probably when all the npc looked away or something. I mean, I tried to do it stealthy all 4 times (3 times main 1 time alt character)

Was that this year? I know someone who said they didn't get a bounty once last year, but ever since that one time they have.

I just wonder about the justice systems priorities.
Steal an apple. 138g
Throw a pie at a King or Queen. 43g

HUH? WTH? LOL

driosketch wrote: »

The best place to steal the apple is from the back of the wagon, even though it looks like you shouldn't reach, you can. I've managed to steal without a bounty even with a partially open eye, while on the side I always get a bounty even with a closed eye.

Now the trick is the npc to the left needs to be looking away. Also be careful of other players starting a commotion and dragging more npcs into the area.

Thank you, I'll try that tonight after reset! I think that closed eye on the side is what's been throwing so many people off.

The problem is that because the apples are a special kind of quest object, interacting with them forces you out of stealth. I see people crouching and stealthing to steal them, and there's just no point in doing that--the result will be the same whether you crouch or do it standing up normally.

Because you are never in stealth when stealing them, the things that people use to reduce stealth detection range--e.g., medium armor passives, etc.--are all irrelevant.

Standing behind the cart can help in some cases, if there's an NPC on the far side of the room looking in your direction, and if you were just a few meters farther, then you'd be out of their visual range. But in most cases, it won't make a difference.

So how do you do it undetected? Make sure nobody is looking in your direction. Most of the time, this is simply impractical. There are too many NPCs there, and catching a moment where all of them have their backs turned towards you is just too unlikely. It's possible, sure, but waiting for that moment just takes too long and isn't worth saving a handful of bounty gold.

(Now and then, some kind soul will go and massacre every NPC there. That's the only sure way to reliably steal them without a bounty.)

The first time I did the quest my main - who is something of a klutz - got no bounty. After that, each time.

But I see it as a great occasion to clear his inventory of those monk costumes Remains-Silent tossed at him. My main feeds the pig and returns to fake Jorunn just before the costume dissolves.

I just kill all the npc’s and use the leniency profs to clear my bounty.

Makes it easier for other players with no nps for a minute

Kill NPCs.

The getting-out-of-stealth mechanic is annoying.

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Kill NPCs.

The getting-out-of-stealth mechanic is annoying.

Kill NPC's and get a bounty for murder? nah, steal and pay is better

What is really annoying here is not just the stealing bounty, it is the fact I can sometimes cause an NPC to aggro you as well. I can live with the bounty, but having the aggro and a major death bounty is really annoying.

zvavi wrote: »

Yesterday I got bounty when there were no NPCs. Someone went on a killing spree. And yet I got a bounty. Idk anymore, the one time I didn't get bounty was probably a bug because of server lag.

There is always one NPC sitting at the entrance that can't be killed because he is a quest giver.

TBH I've just been burning through my stack of Counterfeit Pardon Edicts.

Okay, I've actually managed to do this without a bounty for three days running, with an average success rate of 2 out of 3 toons doing it daily. Here are the conditions, though:

1. NPCs dead OR alive, does not make a difference. I've gotten a bounty with all the killable NPCs dead, so that does not matter. NPCs looking away AND making sure that no stray NPCs have been dragged in is the important part.
2. NO OTHER PLAYERS STACKED UP IN A CROWD. Every *single* time I've attempted to do this with a bunch of other players there, I've failed. Other players attract NPC attention and force them to turn around and look. Wait until everyone else has gone away and things have settled down.
3. Imbed your face into the barrel at the back of the wagon, pretty much right through the keyhole there.
4. Guar may or may not be a tattletale so I make sure its back is turned also! Not sure if that's the winning factor or not but I do it.

Overall my success has depended HEAVILY on there being no other players around. I can afford to wait until the wee hours of the morning for this, thankfully; it will be harder on people with a limited play window.