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Fraction lock is a bad idea - Change my mind
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Holycannoli✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭We had unbalanced pop with it, we have unbalanced pop without it. Reverting back to locked won't change it, it will still be unbalanced.3 -
Mix✭✭✭✭✭
✭Fractions are challenging.
It wasn't terrible in the early days, but there were many more campaigns and when you have multiple characters in different alliances you will have to plan which one(s) go to which campaign.
I also see a problem if there aren't 3 30-day campaigns because there are people who PvP on all three alliances and will have one per campaign if there are 3, if not then one alliance will have to be benched for a month for the 30 day campaign.
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StefanPro✭✭
First of all i have to say, this is only needed because of a handful (fill in), there only Goal is to destroy the fun of all others.
I could Name them all on Vivec-EU, but i'm not allowed here.
They are just scroll stealing/Holding and herrassing in the Chat.
Fraction Lock in my opinion is a good start, but there should be more strikt rules.
For example what if some has no main campagne,
they still can switch as they want and steal scrolls and bully around in the zone chat.
There should be also a cooldown for switching campagnes if u dont have a main.
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thedovahmon✭✭✭✭Mommy, why are the crazy men trying to censor math?
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Rukzadlithau✭✭✭✭Shor will be exempt from the faction lock, so you can be as unloyal there as you like. Personally I've seen too many people abusing alliance switching on Vivec for me to want to allow it. From messing with scrolls, to tricking and ambushing pve players for massive AP def ticks. It needs to go I'm afraid.
Sorry for not roleplaying as a loyal warrior for king emeric. Omg stop this roleplay...
Shor is so empty that you can take a Home keep in primetime without anyone showing up to defend.
I'm sorry, watching inexperienced players getting led to a keep and then the group leader swapping to his friends faction to slaughter them for AP is roleplaying?
Or some *** relaying messages to his friends when and which scrolls we plan to take is also roleplaying? No. They affect the game seriously, even if you don't think so. I fully support faction locking.
And I'm not sure what server you're on, but even though Shor is never poplocked, it's not empty at all. I guest there when I can't play Vivec because of the lag
Can I also have one of those tinfoil hats please?
No. I have to wear double because the alien beams are getting stronger
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Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have mates that have some characters in different alliances. What if I want to play with those mates and they want to play with those characters in particular? Like at this point I'd want a one time alliance change or something, but like that's ever going to happen. idk, mixed feelings about this@ Izaki #PCEU
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Caligamy_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Shor will be exempt from the faction lock, so you can be as unloyal there as you like. Personally I've seen too many people abusing alliance switching on Vivec for me to want to allow it. From messing with scrolls, to tricking and ambushing pve players for massive AP def ticks. It needs to go I'm afraid.
Sorry for not roleplaying as a loyal warrior for king emeric. Omg stop this roleplay...
Shor is so empty that you can take a Home keep in primetime without anyone showing up to defend.
I'm sorry, watching inexperienced players getting led to a keep and then the group leader swapping to his friends faction to slaughter them for AP is roleplaying?
Or some *** relaying messages to his friends when and which scrolls we plan to take is also roleplaying? No. They affect the game seriously, even if you don't think so. I fully support faction locking.
And I'm not sure what server you're on, but even though Shor is never poplocked, it's not empty at all. I guest there when I can't play Vivec because of the lag
Yesterday we had a doofus shooting ballista at the Chalman milegate in the DC alliance ALL DAY LONG while he bragged about it in zone chat because EP had a DC scroll locked away in Chalman Keep. So DC couldn't do anything about him because he was on our alliance screwing us over. All these little abuses snowball and make up a bigger part of the picture, but either this OP and the ones against this change don't get it, or they want to keep (ab)using it in this manner.
For me faction locks cant come soon enough.love is love4 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Shor will be exempt from the faction lock, so you can be as unloyal there as you like. Personally I've seen too many people abusing alliance switching on Vivec for me to want to allow it. From messing with scrolls, to tricking and ambushing pve players for massive AP def ticks. It needs to go I'm afraid.
Sorry for not roleplaying as a loyal warrior for king emeric. Omg stop this roleplay...
Shor is so empty that you can take a Home keep in primetime without anyone showing up to defend.
I'm sorry, watching inexperienced players getting led to a keep and then the group leader swapping to his friends faction to slaughter them for AP is roleplaying?
Or some *** relaying messages to his friends when and which scrolls we plan to take is also roleplaying? No. They affect the game seriously, even if you don't think so. I fully support faction locking.
And I'm not sure what server you're on, but even though Shor is never poplocked, it's not empty at all. I guest there when I can't play Vivec because of the lag
To be fair, I have had the same scenerio happen, except we slaughtered the players who were doing what you described. Faction Lock will not prevent spying.0 -
p00tx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Due to the current pvp pop, it is a bad idea, imo. If pop was healthier I'd say it is the right thing to do.
You can still play with your friends. Although, it will require you to buy another account or just wait til end of camp to switch sides.
Too many ppl claim they switch factions for your reasons, but seldom is it true. It may be for you though, since I don't know you enough to make that assumption.
We have queues up to nearly 100 in the evenings...the population is just fine.PC/Xbox NA
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✭Anyone who believes that faction lock will solve imbalance between alliances is fooling themselves. No faction lock is exactly what allows ballance to exist. When we had faction lock every single campaign was dominated by one faction only and pvp was excruciatingly boring.1 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Just make it that if for example your DC char have vivec as their home campaign you cant set Vivec your home campaign on your AD/EP char but you can still Join.
You dont get reward at the end of the campaign, you dont show up in the Leaderboard. Like a guest but you can still play with your EP friends when your DC friends arent online.......
is that confirmed? becasue that was my biggest concern personaly. i don't pvp much, but I want to be able to occasionaly go in during guild events, and aforementioned guild events are not always on the same alliance. I used to be able to do so by guesting. but they are removing guest option all together and to me at least it wasn't entirely clear if it was possible to zone into campaignthat was locked as home on another character to a different faction
and the thing is? i do not think its possible. why do I think it wont be possible? because what is stopping people from switching to alts and flipping the map for the benefit of their mains exactly? sure they won't be getting end of campaign rewards on their alts, but... their mains are STILL getting full benefit of a map flip.
so if that is the main reason to faction lock campaigns? I have feeling that if you play all three, you are going to have to chose which of your faction alts will have to play in 7 day campaign only.
while I'm not entirely convinced that faction lock is a bad thing? I thing faction lock with 3 alliances, but only 2 maps might be a bad thing.dirty worthless casual.
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Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Moonsorrow wrote: »Alliance lock is a very good thing.
Change my mind.
It discourages people from playing with their friends. It divides people when they wouldn't be otherwise divided. We should be moving towards more freedom to play with others, not less. Faction lock would make sense if we could choose our alliance at the start of every campaign, but we can't. Now if we want to play with friends on another alliance on an alt, we get absolutely nothing for it. Why?Finally Vivec will feel it is worth it. And not just core teams on all 3 sides and the randoms going to the winning alliance for the rewards.
Love the change, 30 day campaign is very long now knowing that from start to finish people made the decision to group up for the alliance sounds as a really good thing to me.
Who actually cares about winning? I've never met anyone who really cared one way or another.
Thats was also really annoys me. Cant play with my EP friends when all my DC friends are offline and i want to Switch for just one day.....
Shor is too empty to enjoy pvp cause you need to search for action 30+ minutes. Thats boring [snip].....
I really dont care AP or campaign rewards, i just want to play pvp and get decent Fights. Thats all i Care and when i cant get action on DC cause everything gets zerged down by them within 1 Minute then i want to switch to EP for nice Action or just playing with friends. Thanks for taking this away and making ESO PvP even more boring.
[snip] Or this so called purple alliance. Its [snip], ad chasing us for 10 minutes with 30 ppl, we cant Fight them so weit kite them into a EP zerg where they get wiped. That has nothing to do with spies or purple alliance. Its just getting outplayed. And instant 5 hate wispers about how we work with EP together. [snip]
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Just play in the Open campaign. You're not affected at all.
Other campaigns are empty as i Said multiple Times.
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Oh, wait. Maybe you're on PC. Sorry for your luck.
Shor's pretty empty on Xbox outside of primetime. NoCP is pretty empty all the time.
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on January 5, 2025 12:11PM0 -
Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Caligamy_ESO wrote: »Shor will be exempt from the faction lock, so you can be as unloyal there as you like. Personally I've seen too many people abusing alliance switching on Vivec for me to want to allow it. From messing with scrolls, to tricking and ambushing pve players for massive AP def ticks. It needs to go I'm afraid.
Sorry for not roleplaying as a loyal warrior for king emeric. Omg stop this roleplay...
Shor is so empty that you can take a Home keep in primetime without anyone showing up to defend.
I'm sorry, watching inexperienced players getting led to a keep and then the group leader swapping to his friends faction to slaughter them for AP is roleplaying?
Or some *** relaying messages to his friends when and which scrolls we plan to take is also roleplaying? No. They affect the game seriously, even if you don't think so. I fully support faction locking.
And I'm not sure what server you're on, but even though Shor is never poplocked, it's not empty at all. I guest there when I can't play Vivec because of the lag
Yesterday we had a doofus shooting ballista at the Chalman milegate in the DC alliance ALL DAY LONG while he bragged about it in zone chat because EP had a DC scroll locked away in Chalman Keep. So DC couldn't do anything about him because he was on our alliance screwing us over. All these little abuses snowball and make up a bigger part of the picture, but either this OP and the ones against this change don't get it, or they want to keep (ab)using it in this manner.
For me faction locks cant come soon enough.
Well, I'm sure people like that will be deeply, deeply concerned about losing AP when they switch. It will absolutely make him consider his choices, I am sure of it.1 -
Siohwenoeht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Moonsorrow wrote: »Alliance lock is a very good thing.
Change my mind.
It discourages people from playing with their friends. It divides people when they wouldn't be otherwise divided. We should be moving towards more freedom to play with others, not less. Faction lock would make sense if we could choose our alliance at the start of every campaign, but we can't. Now if we want to play with friends on another alliance on an alt, we get absolutely nothing for it. Why?Finally Vivec will feel it is worth it. And not just core teams on all 3 sides and the randoms going to the winning alliance for the rewards.
Love the change, 30 day campaign is very long now knowing that from start to finish people made the decision to group up for the alliance sounds as a really good thing to me.
Who actually cares about winning? I've never met anyone who really cared one way or another.
Thats was also really annoys me. Cant play with my EP friends when all my DC friends are offline and i want to Switch for just one day.....
Shor is too empty to enjoy pvp cause you need to search for action 30+ minutes. Thats boring [snip].....
I really dont care AP or campaign rewards, i just want to play pvp and get decent Fights. Thats all i Care and when i cant get action on DC cause everything gets zerged down by them within 1 Minute then i want to switch to EP for nice Action or just playing with friends. Thanks for taking this away and making ESO PvP even more boring.
[snip] Or this so called purple alliance. Its [snip], ad chasing us for 10 minutes with 30 ppl, we cant Fight them so weit kite them into a EP zerg where they get wiped. That has nothing to do with spies or purple alliance. Its just getting outplayed. And instant 5 hate wispers about how we work with EP together. [snip]
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Just play in the Open campaign. You're not affected at all.
Other campaigns are empty as i Said multiple Times.
Well, if they continue to be empty, you know that most people wanted faction lock. If shor starts filling up, then campaign balance has occurred.
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on January 5, 2025 12:12PM"It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time saying anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to." - Treebeard2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭OP.... you really ought to edit the thread title. The word is "Faction". "Fraction" is.... math....
Nope - I don't do math without my computer and google.0 -
ecru✭✭✭✭✭
✭Finally Vivec will feel it is worth it. And not just core teams on all 3 sides and the randoms going to the winning alliance for the rewards.
Love the change, 30 day campaign is very long now knowing that from start to finish people made the decision to group up for the alliance sounds as a really good thing to me.Pretty much the only people against alliance locking are flip-floppers and boosters.
Change my mind.
I just want to play with my friends, that's it. Some friends have different characters on different alliances, and so do I, but this change prevents me from playing with them. I really couldn't care less who wins, who gets emp, or anything else, and I think most people feel the same.Gryphon Heart
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therift✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Finally Vivec will feel it is worth it. And not just core teams on all 3 sides and the randoms going to the winning alliance for the rewards.
Love the change, 30 day campaign is very long now knowing that from start to finish people made the decision to group up for the alliance sounds as a really good thing to me.Pretty much the only people against alliance locking are flip-floppers and boosters.
Change my mind.
I just want to play with my friends, that's it. Some friends have different characters on different alliances, and so do I, but this change prevents me from playing with them. I really couldn't care less who wins, who gets emp, or anything else, and I think most people feel the same.
Not a problem. You'll enjoy the same game play in the non-faction locked campaign.
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Dunning_Kruger✭✭✭✭Shor will be exempt from the faction lock, so you can be as unloyal there as you like. Personally I've seen too many people abusing alliance switching on Vivec for me to want to allow it. From messing with scrolls, to tricking and ambushing pve players for massive AP def ticks. It needs to go I'm afraid.
Sorry for not roleplaying as a loyal warrior for king emeric. Omg stop this roleplay...
Shor is so empty that you can take a Home keep in primetime without anyone showing up to defend.
I'm sorry, watching inexperienced players getting led to a keep and then the group leader swapping to his friends faction to slaughter them for AP is roleplaying?
Or some *** relaying messages to his friends when and which scrolls we plan to take is also roleplaying? No. They affect the game seriously, even if you don't think so. I fully support faction locking.
And I'm not sure what server you're on, but even though Shor is never poplocked, it's not empty at all. I guest there when I can't play Vivec because of the lag
Can I also have one of those tinfoil hats please?
I mean not too far fetched. I sit in groups and lead them to my friend a notorious troll on PC NA that is widely hated in zone. “I think I saw one down the hill guys” leading 4 or so baddies who think they are gonna zerg down a potato to only all get slaughtered.....
“Oh my gosh he kill you guys he must be cheating with that animation cancelling” lol.
They all agree he must be cheating and how valiant their efforts were to stop the cheater whilst back peddling hitting 1 ability every 5 seconds.
I’m sure this isn’t the norm tho; I just have a sick sense of humor after exhausting most of the fun out of this game.____________________________________
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ecru✭✭✭✭✭
✭Finally Vivec will feel it is worth it. And not just core teams on all 3 sides and the randoms going to the winning alliance for the rewards.
Love the change, 30 day campaign is very long now knowing that from start to finish people made the decision to group up for the alliance sounds as a really good thing to me.Pretty much the only people against alliance locking are flip-floppers and boosters.
Change my mind.
I just want to play with my friends, that's it. Some friends have different characters on different alliances, and so do I, but this change prevents me from playing with them. I really couldn't care less who wins, who gets emp, or anything else, and I think most people feel the same.
Not a problem. You'll enjoy the same game play in the non-faction locked campaign.
No I won't, because no one is ever there. This change will do absolutely nothing to anyone who is genuinely trying to disrupt the campaign from doing so, but at the same time it punishes people who just want to pvp with their friends on different factions.Caligamy_ESO wrote: »Shor will be exempt from the faction lock, so you can be as unloyal there as you like. Personally I've seen too many people abusing alliance switching on Vivec for me to want to allow it. From messing with scrolls, to tricking and ambushing pve players for massive AP def ticks. It needs to go I'm afraid.
Sorry for not roleplaying as a loyal warrior for king emeric. Omg stop this roleplay...
Shor is so empty that you can take a Home keep in primetime without anyone showing up to defend.
I'm sorry, watching inexperienced players getting led to a keep and then the group leader swapping to his friends faction to slaughter them for AP is roleplaying?
Or some *** relaying messages to his friends when and which scrolls we plan to take is also roleplaying? No. They affect the game seriously, even if you don't think so. I fully support faction locking.
And I'm not sure what server you're on, but even though Shor is never poplocked, it's not empty at all. I guest there when I can't play Vivec because of the lag
Yesterday we had a doofus shooting ballista at the Chalman milegate in the DC alliance ALL DAY LONG while he bragged about it in zone chat because EP had a DC scroll locked away in Chalman Keep. So DC couldn't do anything about him because he was on our alliance screwing us over. All these little abuses snowball and make up a bigger part of the picture, but either this OP and the ones against this change don't get it, or they want to keep (ab)using it in this manner.
For me faction locks cant come soon enough.
Well, I'm sure people like that will be deeply, deeply concerned about losing AP when they switch. It will absolutely make him consider his choices, I am sure of it.
Seriously, this. People who do things like this do not care about AP. People who "spy" or otherwise try to disrupt the campaign from one side or another do not care about AP. This change will have zero influence on these types of people.Edited by ecru on April 2, 2019 4:45AMGryphon Heart
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ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The situation you are describing op is a symptoms of faction locking being gone for so long.
Your Ps4 na right? Think I have seen you around.
Heres the thing. We had faction locking At launch but they removed it, in one tam i think? Could be tam unlimited i mix the 2 up. Slowly over time players have wised up to the fact that if your on the losing faction you get crap rewards. So a few at a time have lvled alts and switched to the winning side halfway thru the campaign because they realized you can farm out max rewards in a 30 day in not that much time at all. And aside from the like top reward percentage your better off just doing that. Which makes comebacks from the other 2 alliance near impossible. There pop counts are going down and the winning side is stacking up all those players. Next campaign some stick around on the winning side, making the pop count for the 2 losing sides lower at start than the previous campaign. Increasing the odds they lose again. Then more switch, more stick around on the winning side after.
Is faction lock going to fix it over night? no. We had 2 yrs of players working with this system and it took a long time for it to make pvp this unhealthy. Over time though the 2 losing sides are gunna realize they need to join up to start kicking the winners butt. Those alliances get a few wins and the choice doesnt become so obvious which side to join at the start of a campaign. Players start switching to those winners. Find some players they like and stick around to roll with them. New players come in and start sticking with people they met there. Eventually instead on people just stacking on the winner from last campaign players will just stay were they like best because there isnt a clear cut winner so whatever side you join at the beginning doesnt matter and if you want rewards would actually have to stick with it and fight for that alliance.
Not gunna be a fast process but neither was getting the pvp pop this unhealthy. Now the sickness is gone though and things can start to recover.2 -
Metafae✭✭✭✭✭My two cents:
I don't care for the campaign or have any loyalty to any alliance in terms of pvp despite that fact that all but two characters are DC on my account.
I would only play on Vivec due to the monthly rewards being so good. I would simply log in to get enough AP to get the monthly mail, then I would leave and switch characters to do this exact same thing again.
It's not going to impact me greatly, but a faction lock will prevent me from getting these rewards on my AD and EP toons. No big loss. But it is annoying.0 -
xxthir13enxx✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sad thing is that majority of the time it’s these “Faction Hoppers” everyone complains about that Actually turns the tide for the losing Alliance to reclaim their Keeps.
There will still be trolls and “spies”...nothing will change that...they were here when AL was active before.
Will just go back to overcrowding on 1 alliance and under pop on others...fun fun fun1 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭TequilaFire wrote: »
We dont troll alliances. We maybe want to play with our friends from other alliances on the only active campaign wich is Vivec....
Maybe we dont like it when our alliance is so dominant that they pushed every other back to their gates. Then we want to help the Underdog.
Also fraction lock wont reduce Trolling. Trolls can just Home Vivec/Sotha for the transmutations at the end, only need reward Tier 1 and can guest the other campaign with every character every alliance they want and still Spy and troll you.
The only thing is that smalscalers now will also camp the gates when their alliance is too strong making it even harder for the other alliances to Recovery. Enjoy this.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »
We dont troll alliances. We maybe want to play with our friends from other alliances on the only active campaign wich is Vivec....
Maybe we dont like it when our alliance is so dominant that they pushed every other back to their gates. Then we want to help the Underdog.
Also fraction lock wont reduce Trolling. Trolls can just Home Vivec/Sotha for the transmutations at the end, only need reward Tier 1 and can guest the other campaign with every character every alliance they want and still Spy and troll you.
The only thing is that smalscalers now will also camp the gates when their alliance is too strong making it even harder for the other alliances to Recovery. Enjoy this.
Actually I enjoy it when gated and my guild gets on and takes the map back.
Small scalers will farm towers like they always do.0 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »
We dont troll alliances. We maybe want to play with our friends from other alliances on the only active campaign wich is Vivec....
Maybe we dont like it when our alliance is so dominant that they pushed every other back to their gates. Then we want to help the Underdog.
Also fraction lock wont reduce Trolling. Trolls can just Home Vivec/Sotha for the transmutations at the end, only need reward Tier 1 and can guest the other campaign with every character every alliance they want and still Spy and troll you.
The only thing is that smalscalers now will also camp the gates when their alliance is too strong making it even harder for the other alliances to Recovery. Enjoy this.
Actually I enjoy it when gated and my guild gets on and takes the map back.
Small scalers will farm towers like they always do.
There arent any towers at the gates and when there are no keeps where you can take the Ressource tower your Guild will get farmed at the Gate.
This step makes PvP just more boring for players who dont enjoy the zergplay. For zerglings itself, nothing changed. Spys and trolls will still be there and you dont need to have a char on another fraction to ask a friend whats going on in their zone Chat or where the zergs are moving to.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »
We dont troll alliances. We maybe want to play with our friends from other alliances on the only active campaign wich is Vivec....
Maybe we dont like it when our alliance is so dominant that they pushed every other back to their gates. Then we want to help the Underdog.
Also fraction lock wont reduce Trolling. Trolls can just Home Vivec/Sotha for the transmutations at the end, only need reward Tier 1 and can guest the other campaign with every character every alliance they want and still Spy and troll you.
The only thing is that smalscalers now will also camp the gates when their alliance is too strong making it even harder for the other alliances to Recovery. Enjoy this.
Actually I enjoy it when gated and my guild gets on and takes the map back.
Small scalers will farm towers like they always do.
There arent any towers at the gates and when there are no keeps where you can take the Ressource tower your Guild will get farmed at the Gate.
This step makes PvP just more boring for players who dont enjoy the zergplay. For zerglings itself, nothing changed. Spys and trolls will still be there and you dont need to have a char on another fraction to ask a friend whats going on in their zone Chat or where the zergs are moving to.
I didn't say there are towers at the gates did I?
Just try to farm us, good luck.Edited by TequilaFire on April 2, 2019 1:39PM0 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »
We dont troll alliances. We maybe want to play with our friends from other alliances on the only active campaign wich is Vivec....
Maybe we dont like it when our alliance is so dominant that they pushed every other back to their gates. Then we want to help the Underdog.
Also fraction lock wont reduce Trolling. Trolls can just Home Vivec/Sotha for the transmutations at the end, only need reward Tier 1 and can guest the other campaign with every character every alliance they want and still Spy and troll you.
The only thing is that smalscalers now will also camp the gates when their alliance is too strong making it even harder for the other alliances to Recovery. Enjoy this.
Actually I enjoy it when gated and my guild gets on and takes the map back.
Small scalers will farm towers like they always do.
There arent any towers at the gates and when there are no keeps where you can take the Ressource tower your Guild will get farmed at the Gate.
This step makes PvP just more boring for players who dont enjoy the zergplay. For zerglings itself, nothing changed. Spys and trolls will still be there and you dont need to have a char on another fraction to ask a friend whats going on in their zone Chat or where the zergs are moving to.
I didn't say there are towers at the gates did I?
Just try to farm us, good luck.
Ofc, just ignore all the other things i mentioned.
And If you are PC EU i already did0