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Takeaway Broth prices are too damn high!
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Kheigen✭✭Androconium wrote: »As a crafter, I can say that if you don't like the prices set, then don't buy.
I have farmed three giant clams and got nothing. I have to pay for ingredients.
If you don't want to pay for spell pots, learn alchemy and make your own.
Whiney PvPers that want everything handed to them on a plate...
I think you're assuming people with an issue are only PvPers. Most of the population actually do both.1 -
r34lian✭✭✭✭✭
✭Got dozens from alchemy satchels will say the best way is to grind telvars.Edited by r34lian on March 27, 2019 7:22PM2000 CP • 18 Maxed Characters • 6 Altmers • 7 Redguards • Necromancer Orc • Warden Dunmer • DK Nord • DK Imperial • Templar Breton3 -
Bosov✭✭✭✭✭Soul19reaper wrote: »Got dozens from alchemy satchels will say the best way is to grind telvars.
I got 3 pearl from 75 satchels last week... not the best droprateXbox One - EU - GT : Bosov
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Androconium✭✭✭✭✭
✭Androconium wrote: »As a crafter, I can say that if you don't like the prices set, then don't buy.
I have farmed three giant clams and got nothing. I have to pay for ingredients.
If you don't want to pay for spell pots, learn alchemy and make your own.
Whiney PvPers that want everything handed to them on a plate...
Spell Power pots are used most in PvE and even when crafting them a single stack of cornflower can cost 74-80k gold. I personally do not use those pots and neither do the vast majority of PvPers.
But please, continue blaming everything on "Whiney PvPers"
Then why bother bringing them into the discussion?
The fact remains: it takes TIME and EFFORT to farm materials and to research skills and buy recipes.
Just so I can improve your performance.
You still aren't happy.
Ergo: a whinger.
*** off then you ungrateful ***
Edited by Androconium on March 28, 2019 1:10AM0 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭really i find this and the cw citrus to be more expensive than there worth. Maybe for like serious score run but idk, it costly for what it gives.3 -
russelmmendoza✭✭✭✭✭
✭I will stick with witch mothers and dubious cameron, I guess this us why I loose all the time.
Because everyone is using aeterium take away.0 -
Flame_of_Hades✭✭✭Supply and Demand people. The price is high because more people want it than are willing to produce it. If you don't like the price, farm it yourself. If enough people do this, the price will go down because the demand goes down.
Hint: 40k tv = 3 pearls, more or less. 40k tv = 3 bosses (14.4k*3 = 43.2K), thats about 7 min of farming(bosses respawn every 15 min, 6 bosses) (not counting capping flags and holding them).
Honestly, this tells you how many more stamina players there are than magicka players, or at least, how many more min-maxers there are on the stamina side of the coin.1 -
CatchMeTrolling✭✭✭✭✭
✭Flame_of_Hades wrote: »Supply and Demand people. The price is high because more people want it than are willing to produce it. If you don't like the price, farm it yourself. If enough people do this, the price will go down because the demand goes down.
Hint: 40k tv = 3 pearls, more or less. 40k tv = 3 bosses (14.4k*3 = 43.2K), thats about 7 min of farming(bosses respawn every 15 min, 6 bosses) (not counting capping flags and holding them).
Honestly, this tells you how many more stamina players there are than magicka players, or at least, how many more min-maxers there are on the stamina side of the coin.
Not really about who’s playing what to be honest clockwork citrus was 9-10k at some point, still about 5k on my platform. While the broth is about 7-9k. It’s really all about the pricing on the market and who’s buying everything.
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✭✭✭✭✭Soul19reaper wrote: »Got dozens from alchemy satchels will say the best way is to grind telvars.
I got 3 pearl from 75 satchels last week... not the best droprate
75 satchels is like 37,5k tel vars which is nothing.0 -
DreadKnight✭✭✭✭DreadKnight wrote: »I have 564 farmed MOP in my inventory an I got 3 Broth recipes last week from a small amount of fishing, don't see what the problem is. Go farm it!
You are an RNG God. This is bordering on the fabled streamer loot. Pray ZOS doesn't ever have to look at your account or something might mysteriously get changed.
lol, I also have 120k Alcahest and 406 Kutas all from farming them myself and writs, none of it from trading with anyone else. I have 1406 CP and have been plating since launch on xbox 1.
Farming MOP is easy. Once it's dark in-game roam the shores of Summerset and farm Giant Clams. I try to get 5 per day (takes about 20mins), night cycles about every four hours in-game. Once you've learned the spawn locations, farm them in the daytime too as a lot of people will be doing it at night now.0 -
Androconium✭✭✭✭✭
✭russelmmendoza wrote: »I will stick with witch mothers and dubious cameron, I guess this us why I loose all the time.
Because everyone is using aeterium take away.
That's great.
Except zos recently nerfed the drop rate for beetle skuttle to around 1 peice in ten kills.
You need 3 peices for each process.
That's around 20 minutes GamePlay for us non-botters, to make one batch of four DCT potions.
Several hours to make a batch of 50.
That's after:
I expend skill points on alchemy passive
I research to the right level for the recipe
I buy the recipe.
Then I can make this stuff.
Then you complain that it costs too much.
Im glad that my effort is appreciated.0 -
jainiadral✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Aside from cost, doesn't that recipe sound vile? Imagine how sandy it would taste and the grit in your throat after eating it. Yuck
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✭✭✭✭✭I don’t think zeni gives much of a crap about market price - because this isn’t a market merchant sim game.
No, they don't care about the price. But they should care about the relative accessibility of items that are used for in combat. The price is just a convenient way of illustrating that inaccessibility.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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Androconium✭✭✭✭✭
✭russelmmendoza wrote: »I will stick with witch mothers and dubious cameron, I guess this us why I loose all the time.
Because everyone is using aeterium take away.
Why are you guessing? The food stats how how much they will buff your stats by.0 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Androconium wrote: »russelmmendoza wrote: »I will stick with witch mothers and dubious cameron, I guess this us why I loose all the time.
Because everyone is using aeterium take away.
That's great.
Except zos recently nerfed the drop rate for beetle skuttle to around 1 peice in ten kills.
You need 3 peices for each process.
That's around 20 minutes GamePlay for us non-botters, to make one batch of four DCT potions.
Several hours to make a batch of 50.
That's after:
I expend skill points on alchemy passive
I research to the right level for the recipe
I buy the recipe.
Then I can make this stuff.
Then you complain that it costs too much.
Im glad that my effort is appreciated.
Um. You realize that nobody is blaming crafters, right? Prices of crafted items are reflective of the material costs. The problem is with the drop rate of the ingredients in question. If you had bothered to read the posts in this thread, it's about the difficulty of acquiring MOP.
Yet somehow you construe it as an attack on you and then proceed to flame people in the thread.
(And to the person suggestion that people farm MOP--this is not a solution that scales well; most of the times when I do a MOP loop, I find that virtually all the nodes are gone, most likely because other people are running the loop too. Same thing to the person suggesting Tel Var farming--TV farming works when you are the only person farming. Once more people farm, the stone yield drops substantially. Once ZOS does the IC unification so that there's just one IC instead of separate ICs per campaign, farming alchemy in IC will be much harder.)Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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✭✭✭Flame_of_Hades wrote: »Supply and Demand people. The price is high because more people want it than are willing to produce it. If you don't like the price, farm it yourself. If enough people do this, the price will go down because the demand goes down.
Hint: 40k tv = 3 pearls, more or less. 40k tv = 3 bosses (14.4k*3 = 43.2K), thats about 7 min of farming(bosses respawn every 15 min, 6 bosses) (not counting capping flags and holding them).
40k TV = 8 Hakeijo = 80-90k gold = 16ish powdered MoP...
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dazee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'll vote for the OP! Everyone join the too damn high party! seriously though I kinda agree. no food should cost a few thousand gold a unit.Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.2 -
Crixus8000✭✭✭✭✭
✭Having to pay around 8k gold per 1 food is really annoying
I wish it just cost roe to make instead of these ultra rare stupid pearls that you for some reason need 5 of.1 -
Burtan✭✭✭✭Androconium wrote: »Androconium wrote: »As a crafter, I can say that if you don't like the prices set, then don't buy.
I have farmed three giant clams and got nothing. I have to pay for ingredients.
If you don't want to pay for spell pots, learn alchemy and make your own.
Whiney PvPers that want everything handed to them on a plate...
Spell Power pots are used most in PvE and even when crafting them a single stack of cornflower can cost 74-80k gold. I personally do not use those pots and neither do the vast majority of PvPers.
But please, continue blaming everything on "Whiney PvPers"
Then why bother bringing them into the discussion?
The fact remains: it takes TIME and EFFORT to farm materials and to research skills and buy recipes.
Just so I can improve your performance.
You still aren't happy.
Ergo: a whinger.
*** off then you ungrateful ***
I brought them up because they fall under the same issue of certain items being too expensive for a large portion of players whether its because of high demand, low supply or both.
Nobody is blaming crafters or farmers, in fact I have not even considered the contribution of such players. I am simply stating that some things have become way too expensive for many players to sustain and therefore should be more easily acquired, especially in the case of Pearls.
Thank you as ever for your constructive insults comments.5 -
MentalxHammer✭✭✭✭✭
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Genuinely didn’t know they could drop from writs. Can’t recall ever getting them. All my drops have come from farming. Definite drop rate improvement from writs, also adding them to loot tables from IC Alchemy Bags would be nice as well. Maybe even purchase with tel var. [/quote]
They do drop from imperial city alchemy reward satchels! The drop rate there is embarrassingly low as well, i usually get around 200/1 of other mats to pMoP
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Androconium✭✭✭✭✭
✭Androconium wrote: »russelmmendoza wrote: »I will stick with witch mothers and dubious cameron, I guess this us why I loose all the time.
Because everyone is using aeterium take away.
That's great.
Except zos recently nerfed the drop rate for beetle skuttle to around 1 peice in ten kills.
You need 3 peices for each process.
That's around 20 minutes GamePlay for us non-botters, to make one batch of four DCT potions.
Several hours to make a batch of 50.
That's after:
I expend skill points on alchemy passive
I research to the right level for the recipe
I buy the recipe.
Then I can make this stuff.
Then you complain that it costs too much.
Im glad that my effort is appreciated.
Um. You realize that nobody is blaming crafters, right? Prices of crafted items are reflective of the material costs. The problem is with the drop rate of the ingredients in question. If you had bothered to read the posts in this thread, it's about the difficulty of acquiring MOP.
Yet somehow you construe it as an attack on you and then proceed to flame people in the thread.
(And to the person suggestion that people farm MOP--this is not a solution that scales well; most of the times when I do a MOP loop, I find that virtually all the nodes are gone, most likely because other people are running the loop too. Same thing to the person suggesting Tel Var farming--TV farming works when you are the only person farming. Once more people farm, the stone yield drops substantially. Once ZOS does the IC unification so that there's just one IC instead of separate ICs per campaign, farming alchemy in IC will be much harder.)
You make no sense, whatsoever..
The topic is the high price of takeaway broth.
You yourself pinpoint the mop drop rate as the problem.
I could spend all my available time farming mop, or buy it.
I choose the latter.
I don't make much profit, if I sell it at the mm recommended prices.
That really means that everyone is selling as low as they can.
But it's all good news!!!
I'll pop down to a stebdarr shrine and move my provisioning skills across to combat skills.
I'm sure that you can make all your foods far more economically than me.0 -
Androconium✭✭✭✭✭
✭Androconium wrote: »Androconium wrote: »As a crafter, I can say that if you don't like the prices set, then don't buy.
I have farmed three giant clams and got nothing. I have to pay for ingredients.
If you don't want to pay for spell pots, learn alchemy and make your own.
Whiney PvPers that want everything handed to them on a plate...
Spell Power pots are used most in PvE and even when crafting them a single stack of cornflower can cost 74-80k gold. I personally do not use those pots and neither do the vast majority of PvPers.
But please, continue blaming everything on "Whiney PvPers"
Then why bother bringing them into the discussion?
The fact remains: it takes TIME and EFFORT to farm materials and to research skills and buy recipes.
Just so I can improve your performance.
You still aren't happy.
Ergo: a whinger.
*** off then you ungrateful ***
I brought them up because they fall under the same issue of certain items being too expensive for a large portion of players whether its because of high demand, low supply or both.
Nobody is blaming crafters or farmers, in fact I have not even considered the contribution of such players. I am simply stating that some things have become way too expensive for many players to sustain and therefore should be more easily acquired, especially in the case of Pearls.
Thank you as ever for your constructive insults comments.
You demonstrate a total lack of understanding about the origins of the crafted items that you rely on to play your game.
You also seem oblivious to the fact that this is an intentional design feature.
I'm sorry you don't have any in-game gold to pay for your substance use habits.0 -
Tsar_Gekkou✭✭✭✭✭
✭I still think it's weird how Witchmother's Potent Brew takes 1 nightshade while Dubious Camoran Throne takes 3 beetle scuttle.Xbox NA healer main
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Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I can make the take away broth but I don't because mother of pearl is too rare and expensive.
I'll stick with dubious.
Even if they nerfed the drop of beetle scuttle to 1 in 10, it's still easier to farm.Edited by Katahdin on March 29, 2019 5:19PMBeta tester November 20130 -
Androconium✭✭✭✭✭
✭I can make the take away broth but I don't because mother of pearl is too rare and expensive.
I'll stick with dubious.
Even if they nerfed the drop of beetle scuttle to 1 in 10, it's still easier to farm.
My point entirely.
I'm no longer selling either, simply because I can make more profit on other items.
As stated earlier, players have the capability to make anything they need.
They can choose this, or choose to buy it at the current rate.
N.b. insult-free guidance.0 -
Raammzzaa✭✭✭✭✭Androconium wrote: »As a crafter, I can say that if you don't like the prices set, then don't buy.
I have farmed three giant clams and got nothing. I have to pay for ingredients.
If you don't want to pay for spell pots, learn alchemy and make your own.
Whiney PvPers that want everything handed to them on a plate...
I think you're assuming people with an issue are only PvPers. Most of the population actually do both.
I’m not connecting this with PvP either...
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭i spent 1 hour yesterday trying to farm them and there was soo many people farming the Giant clams nodes that i never even saw not even ONE node, not even 1.
at this rate, i think zenimax should make it only need 1 mother of peral for 5 foods from it instead of 5 mother of pearl per 4 pieces just isnt fair!
please zenimax, make it only 1 mother of pearl needed to make 5 dinners.0 -
Grimm13✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don’t think zeni gives much of a crap about market price - because this isn’t a market merchant sim game.
You are correct that they do not care about the game economy - They should as this is a MMORPG which should support many different play styles, including economy based.
Like recipes should be balanced on ingredient values. To me gathering powdered mother of pearl is faster than gathering perfect roe. I think there are less people that gather the former and they hang on to it more.Edited by Grimm13 on March 29, 2019 6:21PM0
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