[SUGGESTION] FINALLY WE HAVE SOLUTION FOR OPEN WORLD PVP

Thevampirenight · February 2019

This Thread inspired me to making a Poll on dueling in towns should it be Illegal and players getting a bounty for doing it in Non designated areas. Open World Pvp should be limited to designated areas.

Like I said above, as fun as this might be. This would cause to many issues. Unless there is a zone maybe for guild halls and castles and guilds fighting other guilds which is something they could do but I doubt it would ever happen. The problems this would cause well would not be worth the implementation in areas that should be pve and sometimes player vs player duel. Those who quest would not like it as performance would go down do to all the server calculations going up for set procs, foods and all other things people need to be competitive in pvp. They would have to battle scale lower level players in those guilds so they have a fighting chance. Given server performance isn't exactly the best for many players. Having this for sure would make it a lot worse and in the long run do nothing but hurt the game.

Michae · February 2019

IT WILL BE FUN BUT NOT MY CONCERN

This could work in someway although I wouldn't be joining a guild like that. Other than BG's the pvp really annoys me. And I agree that this kind of pvp needs chokepoints like the ones in Cyrodiil. Maybe there could be just designated pvp areas in pve lands? Youd have to enable that you want pvp there and otherwise you couldn't attack or be attacked by others.

barney2525 · February 2019

NAH....JUST NAH

Archeage had something similar with what they called Dominion. A guild leader could declare Dominion on another guild and for a limited time both sides were at war - even in safe zones. You are minding your own business in a no-one-can-attack-you-in-your-home-territory zone, and suddenly 3 or 4 peeps come charging up and gank you, and steal your stuff if you had made tradepacks.

Only recourse was to log off until the Dominion expired.

No thanks

lelink88 · February 2019

I WANT OPEN WORLD PVP HAPPEN IN ELSWEYR

barney2525 wrote: »

Archeage had something similar with what they called Dominion. A guild leader could declare Dominion on another guild and for a limited time both sides were at war - even in safe zones. You are minding your own business in a no-one-can-attack-you-in-your-home-territory zone, and suddenly 3 or 4 peeps come charging up and gank you, and steal your stuff if you had made tradepacks.

Only recourse was to log off until the Dominion expired.

No thanks

well, so archeage have same thing. That mean it's possible, just not many player realy like it

Valkysas154 · February 2019

NAH....JUST NAH

They really should make it illegal to dual in citys just like how they are making necro skills in citys

kargen27 · February 2019

frostz417 wrote: »

TheShadowScout wrote: »

The official statement is -still- that they do not wish to mix PvP and PvE, keeping the PvP in PvP regions, and the PvE regions free of nasty gankmasters ganking hapless noobs as soon as they take their first baby steps through the mainstory and stuffs.

IF they ever change their minds, and IF they ever would even think about open world PvP... then I would sincerely hope they would do it as the promised but shelved for just the above reason PvP part of the justice system!

And not some guild stuff, those "guild functions" are more a mission statement anyhow, so people know which guild to go for to find like-minded individuals and prevent people arguing if they want to run dungeons, farm rare crafting materials or murderdeathgank peeps in imperial city...

So... the OP ideas cannot really get more then a shrug from me I fear...

Yo if eso was all open world PvP in ALL zones oh my god that would be so insane. Get a ball group and farm kids in the populated cities lmao

For about a week, then everybody but the ball group would move on to some other game. And if you have an opt in/out option you would have a ball group standing around bored because nobody else would opt in. The estimated week is being optimistic. Probably the mass exodus would be almost immediate.

mikemacon · March 2019

NAH....JUST NAH

Cyrodiil.

Gythral · March 2019

NAH....JUST NAH

Almost every Open World PvP server has died withing a short space of time, in almost all games with an opt-out over the last 20 years

What does this tell you?
(that's right optional PvP does not pay)

lelink88 · March 2019

I WANT OPEN WORLD PVP HAPPEN IN ELSWEYR

I just think if it possible, the war berween Vampire and WereWolf can happen. Then WoW refugee can have thier fight between Horde vs AllianceAlli as they alway dream about. And then we can free to become what ever we dream about inside Tamtiel. However I hope that 1 day dev team can make it happen whiout anoying PvE player @ZOS_GinaBruno

Kiralyn2000 · March 2019

NAH....JUST NAH

OPEN WORLD PVP IS A PLAGUE.

ALSO, I THINK YOUR CAPS LOCK IS BROKEN, DUDE.

Itzmichi · March 2019

We just need a Elder Scrolls Online PVP 76. I think that would work.

Sylvermynx · March 2019

NAH....JUST NAH

Itsmichi wrote: »

We just need a Elder Scrolls Online PVP 76. I think that would work.

*wince*

MasterSpatula · March 2019

NAH....JUST NAH

Lord, like duels aren't bad enough.

STEVIL · March 2019

MattT1988 wrote: »

I can take or leave this to be honest. I won’t take part in it, but I couldn’t care less if I see two zergs of guilds running past me in a cartoon dust cloud of fighting. As long as participation isn’t forced on people who don’t want it.

The biggest concern I have is how this will affect the frame rate and general performance of these areas. We don’t want those areas turning into another Cyrodiil as far as performance goes, not really fair on the PvEers in the region.

Yeah, I am reminded of the annoyance factor of those groups who gather by dozens and just sit in popular or questing areas and spam spam spam intense graphic effects and how that slows the heck out of things and makes getting anything done in that area a pain. But that was just a small number of niche "jerk for fun" types.

This would suddenly turn an annoying behavior into an actual supported in-game-play element with rewards *and* add on top of that actual added calculations and processing for the attacks, damage and special PvP mechanics involved that currently don't get called in open world.

"What could go wring?"

bittalakrb14_ESO · March 2019

The PvE players have a valid argument when it comes to PvP affecting their PvE. But when PvP ideas are proposed that don't affect their PvE, and they simply argue that it is "annoying". That is a very irritating response; it is, certainly, not a valid argument, either. It's like you guys will come up with any excuse to reject any sort of PvP idea that could expand the current PvP system for us. If it is affecting your FPS, upgrade your system's components, plain and simple. It isn't our problem you guys find this aspect of a game annoying. Fortunately, the game doesn't solely revolve around care-bear players.

HowlKimchi · March 2019

I WANT OPEN WORLD PVP HAPPEN IN ELSWEYR

Razorback174 wrote: »

Duels in populated areas are already annoying enough.

Can you imagine trying to do writs while two whole guilds are zerging each other straight through a forge? I have enough trouble if someone's twilight summon is sitting right in front of the crafting bench.

"GOD I CANT CLICK THE MENUS PROPERLY BECAUSE OF THE LAG"

Arato · March 2019

NAH....JUST NAH

lelink88 wrote: »

Razorback174 wrote: »

Duels in populated areas are already annoying enough.

Can you imagine trying to do writs while two whole guilds are zerging each other straight through a forge? I have enough trouble if someone's twilight summon is sitting right in front of the crafting bench.

Hehe but it's exactly what I want xD. You can enjoy the show xD

and that's exactly why other people don't want it. Because of people like you who think they have to have an audience when really NOBODY CARES TO WATCH YOU, GO AWAY.

Arato · March 2019

NAH....JUST NAH

The only way Open PVP could have been interesting is if they'd completed the enforcer/bounty system of the justice system, where if you got like a 10k bounty on your head it'd open you to being attacked by other players looking to claim that bounty. (10k is so high that no you won't get it on accident, you'd have to be doing it on purpose).. it's also high enough that not many people will regularly have it so open world PVP would be sporadic and not something constantly happening in the middle of crafting stations in busy towns 24/7. Dueling being allowed in towns is enough of a public nuissance though.

Knootewoot · March 2019

I WANT OPEN WORLD PVP HAPPEN IN ELSWEYR

Actually, it is the best idea I heard in years. Pve'ers won't have to participate, as they don't have to join a PvP guild.

@zos:

StormeReigns · March 2019

WHATEVER.....

Knootewoot wrote: »

Actually, it is the best idea I heard in years. Pve'ers won't have to participate, as they don't have to join a PvP guild.

@zos:

Hopefully that PvE guild doesn't get over zealous and suddenly is now PvP...

I can already see the complaint threads in their draft forms now. But meh, long as it brings enough entertainment I'll be happy.

Tandor · March 2019

NAH....JUST NAH

Knootewoot wrote: »

Actually, it is the best idea I heard in years. Pve'ers won't have to participate, as they don't have to join a PvP guild.

That's fine, as long as they don't have to pass through it or have their skill balancing or performance affected by it - which of course they will, in all those respects.

By all means have another PvP-only zone (no skyshards or PvE quests) in which players can fight anyone including their own alliance members, and by all means tie guild battles into that gameplay, but do it in a way that has absolutely no, zero, zilch, effect on those who do not elect to take part in it. Their only involvement will be to have to wade through countless resulting threads here about how it isn't really PvP, and ZOS got it all wrong, not to mention the lag, loading screens and disconnections...

Facefister · March 2019

kargen27 wrote: »

The biggest problem with open world PvP is encounters. Cyrodiil has choke points. Players run into each other at those choke points and the fight begins. Open world, no choke points. PvP would get boring very fast. Would be a few gankers hanging around crafting stations.

Being able to opt in to open world PvP sounds fun but would ultimately be a waste of resources setting it up.

Open world PvP is all about ganking, nothing more, nothing less.

Tandor · March 2019

NAH....JUST NAH

Facefister wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

The biggest problem with open world PvP is encounters. Cyrodiil has choke points. Players run into each other at those choke points and the fight begins. Open world, no choke points. PvP would get boring very fast. Would be a few gankers hanging around crafting stations.

Being able to opt in to open world PvP sounds fun but would ultimately be a waste of resources setting it up.

Open world PvP is all about ganking, nothing more, nothing less.

I agree, as was the argument for PvP in the Justice System.

Players who want to PvP competitively already have Cyrodiil, Imperial City, Battlegrounds and Dueling. If they were serious about the competitive element they would welcome suggestions from PvEers like myself for dueling to be taking place in properly structured arenas with guild competitions, leadership boards and viewing galleries etc but no-one ever responds to that sort of suggestion because their idea of PvP is to challenge a PvE-geared newbie by Vulkhel Guard wayshrine!

Juhasow · March 2019

NAH....JUST NAH

Solution for what excatly ?

idk · March 2019

Not only is OP reading a lot into the added functionality for guilds, they have not really come up with real system. We do not even have a real system for flagging people as members of a specific guild.

Zos has already entertained the idea of limited PvP outside of the 3 current PvP activities and chose to abandon it. OP has not come up with anything that would lead them to reconsider. OP has not really come up with anything at all.

So I suggest going back to the drawing board, maybe actually going to the drawing board for the first time, and actually think of a real idea that might actually be plausible.

Mr_Walker · March 2019

bittalakrb14_ESO wrote: »

The PvE players have a valid argument when it comes to PvP affecting their PvE. But when PvP ideas are proposed that don't affect their PvE, and they simply argue that it is "annoying". That is a very irritating response; it is, certainly, not a valid argument, either. It's like you guys will come up with any excuse to reject any sort of PvP idea that could expand the current PvP system for us. If it is affecting your FPS, upgrade your system's components, plain and simple. It isn't our problem you guys find this aspect of a game annoying.

I know right, because it really is necessary to duel on top of crafting tables and writ turn in points.

AlienatedGoat · March 2019

NAH....JUST NAH

Make Cyrodiil and IC a PvE option and then we'll talk.

idk · March 2019

bittalakrb14_ESO wrote: »

The PvE players have a valid argument when it comes to PvP affecting their PvE. But when PvP ideas are proposed that don't affect their PvE, and they simply argue that it is "annoying". That is a very irritating response; it is, certainly, not a valid argument, either. It's like you guys will come up with any excuse to reject any sort of PvP idea that could expand the current PvP system for us. If it is affecting your FPS, upgrade your system's components, plain and simple. It isn't our problem you guys find this aspect of a game annoying. Fortunately, the game doesn't solely revolve around care-bear players.

The OP's idea, while half baked at best, does affect players PvE and that seems pretty obvious. Many of us enjoy PvP in Cyrodiil, IC and BGs which is how the game is designed. With the OP's misguided idea all those people in PvP guilds would be subject to PvP in the PvE areas.

So this idea assumes everyone who enjoys PvP wants open world PvP wars and that frankly is not the case which is evident form the justice system discussion.

There are games that are designed for open world PvP. For some reason the small part of the games population that wants open world PvP do not play those games. One has to wonder why people who claim to want open world PvP do not play real PvP games. It would also be odd for someone to buy into one of those games and advocate it be changed to a PvE game.

It really is that simple.

Crixus8000 · March 2019

I played a game where there was an npc at every city gate and you could turn pvp on, and you could fight any other player you met with it turned on too. Cities was safe so you could do your crafting ect without gankers or go their and turn it off whever you wanted. I would love this in eso.

MattT1988 · March 2019

WHATEVER.....

Arato wrote: »

The only way Open PVP could have been interesting is if they'd completed the enforcer/bounty system of the justice system, where if you got like a 10k bounty on your head it'd open you to being attacked by other players looking to claim that bounty. (10k is so high that no you won't get it on accident, you'd have to be doing it on purpose).. it's also high enough that not many people will regularly have it so open world PVP would be sporadic and not something constantly happening in the middle of crafting stations in busy towns 24/7. Dueling being allowed in towns is enough of a public nuissance though.

Any kind of PvP addition to the open PvE world justice system wouldn’t be fair on the players who purchased Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood, which are DLC’s based on the crime and the justice system, as they bought them with the express understanding that they were PvE only DLC’s. It simply would a rip off to those players if you lumped forced PvP into it. That’s why it should never happen.