It's clearly an old asset for a sexy Dwemer corset

D0PAMINE wrote: »

Damn Zeb you don't miss any details huh?

No, must preserve the lore

It's a world full of time travel and planar vortexes. I for one am quite interested and intrigued by the backstory that saw a factotum transported to this place at some point. Perhaps some future battle? Is Sotha Sil hiding more secrets? What is it that we don't know? It's a wonderful mystery that doesn't necessarily need to be explained fully if you look at it abstractly.

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

Aliyavana for Lore Rep?

Please no. They hate Argonians.

But he still appreciates their lore!

redspecter23 wrote: »

It's a world full of time travel and planar vortexes. I for one am quite interested and intrigued by the backstory that saw a factotum transported to this place at some point. Perhaps some future battle? Is Sotha Sil hiding more secrets? What is it that we don't know? It's a wonderful mystery that doesn't necessarily need to be explained fully if you look at it abstractly.

Sometimes it's an intended teaser or Easter egg, and sometimes it's a hackwork. This is a hackwork.

Are you sure those are factotum body parts and not apostle body parts?

I could picture some apostles leaving the Clockwork City for some errand and through confusion, error or downright kidnapping ended up in Frostvault where they were killed and the metal parts of their bodies were strewn throughout the place.

Sure, it is most likely a reuse of assets. But the above is a totally plausible explanation.

You see, a dragon break did it.

Aliyavana wrote: »

I understand that in the case of the PTS, Its fine as combat and things of that nature should take priority in dungeon feedback threads. While it is too late to stop Clockwork assets from being reused in Dwemer ruins, there is no reason why a factotum body part should be in this dwemer ruin unless it is specifically hinted that Sotha Sil went here.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Factotum
As you can see according to lore, factotums are of Sotha Sil's design.


This was near the Warlord Tzogvin boss. There is literal later model factotum body parts in the frostvault dungeon. It is completely unlore friendly to be in this dwemer dungeon. Please remove this clockwork pile from the dungeon.


it would be one of these things.

Did actually make me ponder if the Assembly General design was intended to have a Dwemer origin, and Sotha Sil just stole it . . . more likely, as @code65536 pointed out, just lore-breaking recycled assets

AJTC5000 wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

I understand that in the case of the PTS, Its fine as combat and things of that nature should take priority in dungeon feedback threads. While it is too late to stop Clockwork assets from being reused in Dwemer ruins, there is no reason why a factotum body part should be in this dwemer ruin unless it is specifically hinted that Sotha Sil went here.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Factotum
As you can see according to lore, factotums are of Sotha Sil's design.


This was near the Warlord Tzogvin boss. There is literal later model factotum body parts in the frostvault dungeon. It is completely unlore friendly to be in this dwemer dungeon. Please remove this clockwork pile from the dungeon.


it would be one of these things.

Did actually make me ponder if the Assembly General design was intended to have a Dwemer origin, and Sotha Sil just stole it . . . more likely, as @code65536 pointed out, just lore-breaking recycled assets

Sotha sil was inspired by the dwemer, he used their design in his early creations

So glad I'm not the only one whose lore sense was tingling when I saw this dungeon. Pretty sure the 'dwarven colossus' was also a Sotha Sil creation yet here it is, in an ancient dwemer vault.

Edit: same for skeevatons. They are a Sotha/CWC thing. Why are they here?

Aliyavana wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

Aliyavana for Lore Rep?

Please no. They hate Argonians.

I don't hate argonians, I own a few of them. On a serious note, I am unbiased when it comes to argonian lore. Ive helped edit some information about argonians on UESP, for example, some of the notes on Jel, Argonian's language, and the possible origin on the argonian lore page. We already have a lore rep with @Enodoc

Emphasis on ‘possible origin’ I hope, that’s one of the mysteries I hope doesn’t get solved in a ‘in your face manner’ but rather it be subtle. @Sheezabeast does have a point kinda, the jokes you usually display say otherwise. Not saying you can’t make them go right ahead. 👍

Sheezabeast wrote: »

It's clearly an old asset for a sexy Dwemer corset

It might be some CWC armor or an factotum pet used by some earlier adventurer.
Stuff like this shows up all the time. you get viking sword on battlefields in 1450. Your ancestor looted it of an Viking and you was recruited so you bring it.
You got WW2 German machine pistols in Somalia, stuff moves around.
Still remember the swastika on the tripod for the LMG.

Aliyavana wrote: »

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

Aliyavana for Lore Rep?

Please no. They hate Argonians.

I don't hate argonians, I own a few of them. On a serious note, I am unbiased when it comes to argonian lore. Ive helped edit some information about argonians on UESP, for example, some of the notes on Jel, Argonian's language, and the possible origin on the argonian lore page. We already have a lore rep with @Enodoc

I prefer the Imperial Library.

After having a few editing wars on UESP wiki, I avoid that site like the the Black Plague.

Giant are Betmer? What?
Lamia are female? Uh...No.

That site has a lot of wrong information.

Lets see it from other side.

Sotha Sil stole factotum tech from dwemer Mhuvnak like he stole Tools of Kagrenac before his ascension to godhood.
Clearly that's dwemer developed factotums as advanced version of animunculi, first example of such tech will be surrogate mother of Vivec
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:36_Lessons_of_Vivec,_Sermon_3
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:36_Lessons_of_Vivec,_Sermon_4
See it? Mechanical female body with artificial womb thats can produce living children, where was this ah yes Active Fabrication Tank.

BTW there is in Frostvault we can see ruined Dwarven Delver what was initially shown in Clockwork City


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEvfX1gPa_4

Also Sotha Sil adapted other dwemer tech for own use, for example his experiments with souls gem and mechanical bodies of Saints have connection to dwemer Klathzgar
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Urenenya's_Lament_(quest)
There is also one of Sotha Sil Harmonic Auditor in Rkindaleft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOmovKPay4Y
who clearly try to use dwemer tech to transfer his soul to animunculi shell, such auditors can be clergy of Sotha Sil before he replace them with Apostles.
We can meet such engineers in Sotha Sil Maelstrom arenas.

This Harmonic Auditor particularly interesting he is connected to dwarven throne similar to throne room in Nchuleftingth, I believe dwemer use such thrones to remote control all dwemer city machines, Sotha Sil later adapted and improved design for his Throne Aligned where he was connected to all of his Clockwork City.
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Eo38N
This Harmonic Auditor also uses transmutation dwemer tech for "improvement" of orcs, we saw example of such tech before in Darkshade Cavern, done by Engine Guardian remotely with dwemer spiders.

Do not forget thats Sotha Sil worked together with dwemers in Resdayn before War of the First Council, most likely he not accepted dwemer tech as blasphemous while dwemers become foul in religious Temple dogma.

So game provide many examples of dwemer tech what was later adapted by Sotha Sil, but still there is no direct answers, sure its suit for Father of Mystery.

Shawn_PT wrote: »

So glad I'm not the only one whose lore sense was tingling when I saw this dungeon. Pretty sure the 'dwarven colossus' was also a Sotha Sil creation yet here it is, in an ancient dwemer vault.

Edit: same for skeevatons. They are a Sotha/CWC thing. Why are they here?

Dwemer colossus are of dwemer design. The halls of fabrication is a manufacturing facility dwemer animunculi were broken down for parts or refabricated by sotha sil