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Will animation cancelling be removed from the game?

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Fingolfinn01
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Will Animation cancelling be removed from the game?
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Will animation cancelling be removed from the game? 93 votes

Yes it left with Eric Wrobel
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DeadlyRecluseAH93Patrovalidifyedneb18_ESOGravordMendalithfoxxkarekizDarkerDreamsHati 9 votes
No Brian Wheeler will make tweaks to combat, not an overhaul
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Massive overhaul incoming
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  • kojou
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    No Brian Wheeler will make tweaks to combat, not an overhaul
    And it shouldn't.
    Playing since beta...
  • Feanor
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    What makes you believe it would be removed? They just added a loading screen hint explaining it exists.
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  • mairwen85
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    No Brian Wheeler will make tweaks to combat, not an overhaul
    Isn't this just another veiled 'do you think it should be in the game' poll?

  • DeadlyRecluse
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    Yes it left with Eric Wrobel
    It's already gone! The end times are upon us!

    ...this is a silly question. Of course not. Removing animation cancelling at this point would require a significant overhaul of pretty much every major system.
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  • Rikumaru
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    Overload rework. Power Overload now does physical damage and grants you the power of a tornado: You throw a brick at the target with a light attack, and you hammer your head into that brick with every heavy attack. We have decreased its Ultimate cost, but increased the chance that you get stuck in the animation.
  • MikaHR
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    It should be. Along with heavy attack matching actual duration of heavy attck istead attack lasting 1s while animation plays for 2s.
  • Temeraire507
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    What exactly do you mean with 'animation cancelling'? The ability to break an animation while it is running and start a new one is a vital part of most games. If you are speaking about light attacks not being bound to the normal global cooldown that's something completely different
    Edited by Temeraire507 on February 26, 2019 1:42PM
  • VaranisArano
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    Which animation canceling?

    The one that lets you use a skill and then quickly block an incoming attack without waiting for the skill animation to finish?

    Or the one that lets you bar swap to use skills after the GCD has passed even if a longer animation is still playing?

    Or light attack weaving, which just got a loading screen tip explaining how to do it to go with the level up advisor tip explaining how to do it?

    Right. None of those are changing anytime soon.
    Edited by VaranisArano on February 26, 2019 1:43PM
  • frostz417
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    No Brian Wheeler will make tweaks to combat, not an overhaul
    I wish people would quit crying over the most absurd things like animation cancelling
  • generalmyrick
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    No clue...but some of these guys.. Jeez....its like youbstart taking damage and you hear something like hyper speed scissors cutting.

    You die...

    And your death recap amounts to half or less your damage and wonder why you dies so fast!

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  • Jierdanit
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    No Brian Wheeler will make tweaks to combat, not an overhaul
    Rikumaru wrote: »
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    I agree... too much threads on this topic at the moment.
    Edited by Jierdanit on February 26, 2019 1:47PM
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  • zaria
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    No Brian Wheeler will make tweaks to combat, not an overhaul
    VaranisArano wrote: »
    Which animation canceling?

    The one that lets you use a skill and then quickly block an incoming attack without waiting for the skill animation to finish?

    Or the one that lets you bar swap to use skills after the GCD has passed even if a longer animation is still playing?

    Or light attack weaving, which just got a loading screen tip explaining how to do it to go with the level up advisor tip explaining how to do it?

    Right. None of those are changing anytime soon.
    Good questions, and no they can not make cast time on all spells. So fun with cast time on healing spells, trying to heal tank as he got hit in the face trying to cast an debuff.
    Now talk about PvP then all skills are telegraphed and can be bashed.


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  • Kr3do
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    I hope people that make useless animation cancelling related threads leave the forums
  • Emma_Overload
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    No Brian Wheeler will make tweaks to combat, not an overhaul
    There must be dozens (if not hundreds) of MMOs with slow, clunky combat and nice, long cooldowns on every ability...

    Why don't you go play one of those games?

    Edited by Emma_Overload on February 26, 2019 1:50PM
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  • SammyFable
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    Biased poll is biased.
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  • Ermiq
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    Massive overhaul incoming
    The Combat Overhaul is nigh!
    One of the two of us definitely has gone mad. It only remains to define whether this one is the whole world or just me.

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  • Thevampirenight
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    I don't think it will be remove given that some of the devs themselves might use it. The fact that it hasn't been removed or changed even when they could do it. The number of players reliant on this for dps in content. Plus it would require a overhaul of the system, and changes to how abilties work possibly even cooldowns on abilties to match their animation times. Given individual cool downs is something they don't want to do. I don't see it ever happening and the uproar over this would be a lot worse then the Bosmer Changes with the latest update.
    Edited by Thevampirenight on February 26, 2019 2:44PM
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  • Moonsorrow
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    No Brian Wheeler will make tweaks to combat, not an overhaul
    The amount of these are starting to be trolling level.. :thinking:
  • JobooAGS
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    No Brian Wheeler will make tweaks to combat, not an overhaul
    Sooner they will delete cyrodiil from the game and advertise it as pve only

    Which means IT AIN'T HAPPENING
    Edited by JobooAGS on February 26, 2019 2:43PM
  • huschdeguddzje
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    I just hope it will get smoother. Atm if you do it right it looks like your character is spasming and magic happens to be firing at the same time.
  • Nestor
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    No Brian Wheeler will make tweaks to combat, not an overhaul
    Last year I sat in on a meeting with the ZOS Combat teams and the community representatives. Guess what they discussed? Making Animation Canceling better. What was not discussed was removing AC.

    Animation Canceling is a thing for this game. It will be tweaked, it will be polished, it will not be removed.
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  • Urvoth
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    No Brian Wheeler will make tweaks to combat, not an overhaul
    Why would they remove it? That makes 0 sense.
  • _Salty_
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    No Brian Wheeler will make tweaks to combat, not an overhaul
    I don't understand the problem with animation cancelling. It blows my mind how many threads I've read about it over the years
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  • Sandman929
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    No Brian Wheeler will make tweaks to combat, not an overhaul
    The ship sailed, reached it's destination, and has made several trips since.
  • d3adpain
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    snipe spammer spotted xD
  • Katahdin
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    It's not going anywhere
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  • Druid40
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    Probably not. It does not make sense that cutting off an action lets you reap the full benefits of the action, but a lot of people like it and ZOS seems fine with it.
  • Numerikuu
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    No. They tried once and failed, hence why they made it a 'feature'. My guess is it would require a lot of core coding changes that would be far too time consuming and costly. No point.

    I honestly couldn't give a damn that it's in the game. What I do give a damn about is content and balancing being designed around the damage numbers that animation cancelling can achieve. If people who abuse it want to do so to reach said numbers, then go right ahead. Just don't whine and cry that content is too easy because of it.
    Edited by Numerikuu on February 26, 2019 4:44PM
  • Gilvoth
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    DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

    ...this is a silly question. Of course not. Removing animation cancelling at this point would require a significant overhaul of pretty much every major system.


    i have to agree with this ^

    although, it is possible it will be removed, but that would take alot of recode-ing and money, time, and resources.
  • redspecter23
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    Animation cancelling is embedded into the game at this point. There would have to be MASSIVE overhauls to the core mechanics of the game to remove it at this point.

    As long as you're not able to bypass the global cooldowns (that would be exploiting) then everything is fine right now. The last thing I ever want is to have to wait a second for my block or dodge roll to kick in. Every mechanic in the game would have to be adjusted for this new delay.
    Edited by redspecter23 on February 26, 2019 4:46PM
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