Daggers should drop in pairs
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NoMoreChillies✭✭✭✭✭
✭simple solution:
remove bind on pickup. Then instead of running the same boring content for months you can buy it from the guy who doesnt need it and he gets some gold instead of both getting nothing. win-winInsulting people on the internet is cowardly.4 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NoMoreChillies wrote: »simple solution:
remove bind on pickup. Then instead of running the same boring content for months you can buy it from the guy who doesnt need it and he gets some gold instead of both getting nothing. win-win
Realistically, we all know what daggers people are talking about...and no one does that particular content (HRC) unless they need the daggers since the jewelry drops a bit more frequently than the weaponsValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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M_Volsung✭✭✭✭✭
✭Pants should drop in pairs... if you know what I mean.
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It would only be twice as long if you referring to a two set bonus.
For a 5 set bonus a two-handed build would have to farm up 4 pieces. A dual wielder 5 pieces. That's only one more piece.
Is it fair? I suppose one can make a reasonable argument two-handed weapons now have a slight advantage when it comes to farming. But to be honest with you: the biggest factor is just going to be RNG and how lucky you are. That's going to make a lot more difference on the time it takes you to farm a set than whether or not you are farming for a one-handed or two-handed build. So it's not going to be "fair" regardless, as some players are just going to have better luck than others.
For example: you don't even want to know how long it took me to farm up my leeching restoration staff (a two-handed weapon) from Imperial City Prison. I"m confident when I say it probably took me longer than it did anyone in this thread to farm up two one-handed weapons because I got incredibly unlucky.
Well I’ve already farmed the 5 pieces of armor for one set and have the jewelry for the other set. I am only missing two one handed weapons to make it all work. I get a lot of staves for my stamina character and an occasional two-hander and shield. Something is off with the RNG.
And I am not talking about only a few runs for the stuff either.PS4 Pro NA0 -
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Yeah. I’m not sure how playing the game for over 3 years could ever be misconstrued as lack of dedication or casual. LOLPS4 Pro NA0 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Since two-handed weapons now count as two pieces it is only fair to make all one-handers drop either in pairs or with a shield - same way as ability-altering weapons.
If daggers drop in pairs, I expect to have staves drop in pairs as well. Preferably only lightning, and inferno with infused traits.
One staff is enough to fill one bar. One dagger is not. By itself one dagger is useless.
Since ZOS already broke simple math and one two-handed weapon counts for two set bonuses I see nothing wrong with two one-handed weapons counting as one drop. This is parity and fairness people were asking for.
The reason two-handed weapons should count twice toward a set is because they take up 2 slots. That is parity. That is fairness.
It was always BS how 2-handed builds got shafted on being able to use 2 5-set bonuses and monster set. I remember all the posts I used to read talking about how the sky would fall and everyone would resort to using 2-handed weapons if they made that change. Well they made it (finally, but better late than never) and lookie here, people are still farming for daggers and other one-handed weapons. So I think it's safe to say all the doom and gloom that was supposedly going to happen if they did that change was exaggerated to put it mildly.
This is why I support the idea that what happens in Maelstrom should be extended to all the different content. Before, when those 2H weapons did not count as 2 slots the additional farming for 1h weapons was justified. You got more so you farmed more.
That isn't the case anymore. So there is nothing wrong with make 1h weapons drop like they already do in vMA.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭NoMoreChillies wrote: »simple solution:
remove bind on pickup. Then instead of running the same boring content for months you can buy it from the guy who doesnt need it and he gets some gold instead of both getting nothing. win-win
Agree completely. Awesome for you.
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Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I am so sick of running HRC to get one god dammed dagger.
You need 2 of them you should get 2 of them
I am either going to quit trying or if I somehow win the lotto of the year, NEVER going to run that god dammed trial again....EVEREdited by Katahdin on February 24, 2019 2:58AMBeta tester November 20132 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not really. They are BiS now, sure, but Dual wield has 4 different weapons. If they want to change the drop, make it like vMA where you'll always get 2 weapons or one weapon and a shield.
Yes to this. Especially now they nerfed enchants so the whole DW gives you more so it should be harder to get argument is out. The same goes for lowering the amount of tempers used.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I am so sick of running HRC to get one god dammed dagger.
You need 2 of them you should get 2 of them
I am either going to quit trying or if I somehow win the lotto of the year, NEVER going to run that god dammed trial again....EVER
Just aim to get two 1 handers. For the dagger, you're grinding, literally, for a 2.5% crit chance increase. That's not nothing, but life is too short. Mace's are probably the least useful, but you'll get your time's worth out of swords and axes.1 -
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✭✭I have only played 3 MMO's but I've played a ton of RPGs and in none of them did one hand weapons drop in pairs.
That's just the way it is with one hand weapons.. you need two of them. I don't see a problem.
What this sounds like to me is someone is tired of farming for best in slot daggers. I dont think that's a reason to change how drops work. Getting the absolute best weapon type of a specific set should take a long time...0 -
Elhan✭✭✭You can drop 2h and staff for 2set slot.
It seems fair that 1hand and 1h&S drop by 2slot, 2 weapons or weapon and shield. Based on same rng than other weapon
Personaly i already have farmed my daggers, but why in VMA/weekly rewards we have 2 1h weapons or 1weapon and shield and not in chest/boss.
Same situation, 2 differents wayEdited by Elhan on February 24, 2019 7:42PM2 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I have only played 3 MMO's but I've played a ton of RPGs and in none of them did one hand weapons drop in pairs.
That's just the way it is with one hand weapons.. you need two of them. I don't see a problem.
What this sounds like to me is someone is tired of farming for best in slot daggers. I dont think that's a reason to change how drops work. Getting the absolute best weapon type of a specific set should take a long time...
Dark Mesiah of Might and Magic, Kingdoms of Amalur, and Dark Souls 3 all drop dual weapons. I want to say Spellforce or Spellforce 2 did as well. But, the critical thing about all of those games is that dual wielded weapons occupied a single equip slot. Which changes things significantly.
Come to think of it, E.Y.E. also had it's dual weapons in a single slot, but that game didn't really do drops.0 -
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✭✭✭All DW weapons should drop two at a time like the Ability Altering weapons do, and they should only require 25 crystals to Transmute, 4 tempers to improve to Legendary, cost half the mats of a 2H to create, etc.
We've gone down this "logical" road of making 2H count as two set pieces and DW enchants having half the value, so it should go all the way.2