Daggers should drop in pairs

Tholian1

I have been farming for 2 different sets from dungeons and have yet to find a single dagger. It makes me wonder if I will ever complete those sets since I will need 2 daggers for my dual wield character. Wouldn’t it make more sense for them to drop in pairs?

Latios

Not really. They are BiS now, sure, but Dual wield has 4 different weapons. If they want to change the drop, make it like vMA where you'll always get 2 weapons or one weapon and a shield.

Katahdin

I've been trying to get a second AY dagger.
It never drops. It should not take 10 years to complete a freaking set

Vanthras79

Shoes drop in pairs, just saying. So do gloves and shoulders.

starkerealm

Vanthras79 wrote: »

Shoes drop in pairs, just saying. So do gloves and shoulders.

I don't know about you, but I never wear a shoe on my right foot and a shield on my left.

starkerealm

Tholian1 wrote: »

I have been farming for 2 different sets from dungeons and have yet to find a single dagger. It makes me wonder if I will ever complete those sets since I will need 2 daggers for my dual wield character. Wouldn’t it make more sense for them to drop in pairs?

Not especially. If you're not already, I would strongly recommend you run the dungeons with friends instead of in the group finder, and/or communicate with your team what you're looking for. Many players are entirely willing to give up jumk items they don't need if they know someone else in the group needs it for a build.

alanmatillab16_ESO

Vanthras79 wrote: »

Shoes drop in pairs, just saying. So do gloves and shoulders.

No they don't, they are a single slot item just like daggers are.

Want two daggers? grind for them or have them crafted like anyone who wants a 1H + Shield. Also, what about players who do not want to dual wield daggers. Some DW a Sword and Dagger.

Tholian1

starkerealm wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

I have been farming for 2 different sets from dungeons and have yet to find a single dagger. It makes me wonder if I will ever complete those sets since I will need 2 daggers for my dual wield character. Wouldn’t it make more sense for them to drop in pairs?

Not especially. If you're not already, I would strongly recommend you run the dungeons with friends instead of in the group finder, and/or communicate with your team what you're looking for. Many players are entirely willing to give up jumk items they don't need if they know someone else in the group needs it for a build.

I do run with guildies any chance I get to, but they will only run it so many times before it becomes burdensome for them.

The drop rate is that dismal.

Royaji

Since two-handed weapons now count as two pieces it is only fair to make all one-handers drop either in pairs or with a shield - same way as ability-altering weapons.

Valrien

alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »

Vanthras79 wrote: »

Shoes drop in pairs, just saying. So do gloves and shoulders.

No they don't, they are a single slot item just like daggers are.

Want two daggers? grind for them or have them crafted like anyone who wants a 1H + Shield. Also, what about players who do not want to dual wield daggers. Some DW a Sword and Dagger.

Well if I'm being honest those players are either using it because they have to (don't have 2 daggers) or because they will use basically anything and this will not affect them

Salvas_Aren

Valrien wrote: »

alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »

Vanthras79 wrote: »

Shoes drop in pairs, just saying. So do gloves and shoulders.

No they don't, they are a single slot item just like daggers are.

Want two daggers? grind for them or have them crafted like anyone who wants a 1H + Shield. Also, what about players who do not want to dual wield daggers. Some DW a Sword and Dagger.

Well if I'm being honest those players are either using it because they have to (don't have 2 daggers) or because they will use basically anything and this will not affect them

Maybe use axe and dagger for crit and bleed?

No, can't be. People would not do this if they cared about their builds. Ofc they would dual wield shields as well since all things should come in pairs.

Ackwalan

Vanthras79 wrote: »

Shoes drop in pairs, just saying. So do gloves and shoulders.

Yet a pair of pants is only one item.

rexagamemnon

No

El_Borracho

What's next? "Relequen body pieces should drop as a full set of armor. I mean, who wears only one piece of armor?"

Taleof2Cities

El_Borracho wrote: »

What's next? "Relequen body pieces should drop as a full set of armor. I mean, who wears only one piece of armor?"

I know right?

If I do a vet dungeon, all full 5-piece sets (native to the dungeon) should drop when I’m done ... and go to my Collections menu so that I can retrieve when ZOS buffs it during a patch.

Same for battlegrounds, all three 5-piece sets should drop (in all armor weights) and go to Collections.

Tholian1

El_Borracho wrote: »

What's next? "Relequen body pieces should drop as a full set of armor. I mean, who wears only one piece of armor?"

Actually, 5 piece armor set of Relequen was easy to get. 5 piece armor of any dungeon set is easy to get. I am talking about a specific weapon’s odds of dropping. Please do keep up.

Shadow-Fighter

Too late for the changes.
Zos finished this part years ago.

Colecovision

If they ever did that, it would come with sime awful consequence. Let's not poke the bear.

Diminish

Tholian1 wrote: »

I have been farming for 2 different sets from dungeons and have yet to find a single dagger. It makes me wonder if I will ever complete those sets since I will need 2 daggers for my dual wield character. Wouldn’t it make more sense for them to drop in pairs?

Only if your boots and gloves drop left/right foot, and left/right hand.

Danikat

If they were going to do this it should really apply to ALL one handed weapons, they should either drop in pairs or with a shield. But like other people said it's unlikely it would be changed because part of the design is to keep you grinding the dungeon for it.

Tholian1 wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

What's next? "Relequen body pieces should drop as a full set of armor. I mean, who wears only one piece of armor?"

Actually, 5 piece armor set of Relequen was easy to get. 5 piece armor of any dungeon set is easy to get. I am talking about a specific weapon’s odds of dropping. Please do keep up.

Tholian1 wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

What's next? "Relequen body pieces should drop as a full set of armor. I mean, who wears only one piece of armor?"

Actually, 5 piece armor set of Relequen was easy to get. 5 piece armor of any dungeon set is easy to get. I am talking about a specific weapon’s odds of dropping. Please do keep up.

You got that specific set easily, but you still got it one piece at a time, not a full matching set all together which is essentially what you're asking for here. You wouldn't wear just a Relequen helm on it's own - does that mean the game should never drop just a helm and should also provide you at least 4 other pieces to wear with it?

Diminish

Royaji wrote: »

Since two-handed weapons now count as two pieces it is only fair to make all one-handers drop either in pairs or with a shield - same way as ability-altering weapons.

If daggers drop in pairs, I expect to have staves drop in pairs as well. Preferably only lightning, and inferno with infused traits.

starkerealm

Tholian1 wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

I have been farming for 2 different sets from dungeons and have yet to find a single dagger. It makes me wonder if I will ever complete those sets since I will need 2 daggers for my dual wield character. Wouldn’t it make more sense for them to drop in pairs?

Not especially. If you're not already, I would strongly recommend you run the dungeons with friends instead of in the group finder, and/or communicate with your team what you're looking for. Many players are entirely willing to give up jumk items they don't need if they know someone else in the group needs it for a build.

I do run with guildies any chance I get to, but they will only run it so many times before it becomes burdensome for them.

The drop rate is that dismal.

So space it out over time.

What set are you looking for, anyway?

Valrien

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »

Vanthras79 wrote: »

Shoes drop in pairs, just saying. So do gloves and shoulders.

No they don't, they are a single slot item just like daggers are.

Want two daggers? grind for them or have them crafted like anyone who wants a 1H + Shield. Also, what about players who do not want to dual wield daggers. Some DW a Sword and Dagger.

Well if I'm being honest those players are either using it because they have to (don't have 2 daggers) or because they will use basically anything and this will not affect them

Maybe use axe and dagger for crit and bleed?

No, can't be. People would not do this if they cared about their builds. Ofc they would dual wield shields as well since all things should come in pairs.

Dagger/Dagger is meta atm though. One can make a case for axes in PvP but for PvE crit is king

Valrien

Diminish wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

Since two-handed weapons now count as two pieces it is only fair to make all one-handers drop either in pairs or with a shield - same way as ability-altering weapons.

If daggers drop in pairs, I expect to have staves drop in pairs as well. Preferably only lightning, and inferno with infused traits.

This is nonsense and not even close to equivalent

starkerealm

Valrien wrote: »

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »

Vanthras79 wrote: »

Shoes drop in pairs, just saying. So do gloves and shoulders.

No they don't, they are a single slot item just like daggers are.

Want two daggers? grind for them or have them crafted like anyone who wants a 1H + Shield. Also, what about players who do not want to dual wield daggers. Some DW a Sword and Dagger.

Well if I'm being honest those players are either using it because they have to (don't have 2 daggers) or because they will use basically anything and this will not affect them

Maybe use axe and dagger for crit and bleed?

No, can't be. People would not do this if they cared about their builds. Ofc they would dual wield shields as well since all things should come in pairs.

Dagger/Dagger is meta atm though. One can make a case for axes in PvP but for PvE crit is king

Axe/Dagger, for the Bleed and Crit bonus. Remember that bleed ignores the enemy's armor.

starkerealm

El_Borracho wrote: »

What's next? "Relequen body pieces should drop as a full set of armor. I mean, who wears only one piece of armor?"

No, wait, I know how this one goes. You condense the 5 body slots into a single equip slot. Then you combine the weapon pairs into single weapons, with no off hand option, and roll the jewelry into that. (Because getting the wrong combo of dagger/shield is so much better than having to schlep around town with a sword and axe equipped. Finally you combine the monster set into a single slot.

And... you've created a dumbed down build system.

Congrats.

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

What's next? "Relequen body pieces should drop as a full set of armor. I mean, who wears only one piece of armor?"

I know right?

If I do a vet dungeon, all full 5-piece sets (native to the dungeon) should drop when I’m done ... and go to my Collections menu so that I can retrieve when ZOS buffs it during a patch.

Same for battlegrounds, all three 5-piece sets should drop (in all armor weights) and go to Collections.

Legitimately, the ability to retrieve discovered items is one of the best features in Destiny 2. Though, the part where you can't retrieve gear post-Forsaken is kinda annoying.

Gilvoth

all the other weapons drop "whole"
only seems fair daggers drop in pairs, making them whole just like the other drops.

Tholian1

starkerealm wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Tholian1 wrote: »

I have been farming for 2 different sets from dungeons and have yet to find a single dagger. It makes me wonder if I will ever complete those sets since I will need 2 daggers for my dual wield character. Wouldn’t it make more sense for them to drop in pairs?

Not especially. If you're not already, I would strongly recommend you run the dungeons with friends instead of in the group finder, and/or communicate with your team what you're looking for. Many players are entirely willing to give up jumk items they don't need if they know someone else in the group needs it for a build.

I do run with guildies any chance I get to, but they will only run it so many times before it becomes burdensome for them.

The drop rate is that dismal.

So space it out over time.

What set are you looking for, anyway?

Been trying for Blood Moon daggers for 2 months. Have only gotten shields and two handers. Jewelry was pretty easy. But the weapons are another story.

Royaji

Diminish wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

Since two-handed weapons now count as two pieces it is only fair to make all one-handers drop either in pairs or with a shield - same way as ability-altering weapons.

If daggers drop in pairs, I expect to have staves drop in pairs as well. Preferably only lightning, and inferno with infused traits.

One staff is enough to fill one bar. One dagger is not. By itself one dagger is useless.

Since ZOS already broke simple math and one two-handed weapon counts for two set bonuses I see nothing wrong with two one-handed weapons counting as one drop. This is parity and fairness people were asking for.

Grimm13

Dropping in pairs, no. What might be possible is for you to get a choice from three RNG items. This could improve the drop odds but still leaves in ZOS random that they love to use.

idk

I can see getting two DW weapons when a DW weapon drops since that is the case with the special weapon sets like vMA. However, that would not guarantee getting two if the same DW weapon type. It could be one dagger and one sword.

Since Zos made 2H weapons = 2 set pieces this makes sense now.