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Getting kicked from dungeons before the last boss

  • Eso101rus
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    Out of curiosity.....were you queued as tank when you were actually dps?
  • Ertosi
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    Volenfell is always fun to pug and my last group there didn't disappoint...

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    OP, hang in there and never take pugs too seriously.
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  • SirMewser
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    Oh boy.
    I always say hi at the start of a dungeon, from then, I get a good idea of what to expect from the team especially with myself being the healer.

    Silence installs doubt.
    Silence speaks louder than words.

    You're an awesome person, remember that.

    As for not "naming and shaming" they call it, I think they deserved to be outed and penalized.
    The event that happened, I assure you, ZoS would have enough data to make do without your screenshots for a report, but this is not case with how things are actually handled.

    So the reality is, you're right.
    Umbro100 wrote: »
    When good people do nothing, bad people rule.

    If I had control over that situation; I'd verify the event, reason with why it happened, see if there is repetition in their actions with others, then evaluate them to go on a blacklist that they would stay on for a given amount of time.

    Edited by SirMewser on February 20, 2019 7:15PM
  • soochie52_ESO
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    So I was running with 2 friends in the new 4-man trial yesterday and all of a sudden in the middle of one of the bosses one of the guys gets kicked. We were all on comms. I had lead. I didn't kick him and there was no vote. I was actually wondering if it might be a new bug. But yours is the only other post on the forums about it I've seen yet.
  • Mintaka5
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    Implement the Overwatch competitive play system. You leave match, you get suspended from comp play for a time. As far as getting kicked, remove the ability to kick players. If team can't function, then deal with it.
  • Ertosi
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    Mintaka5 wrote: »
    Implement the Overwatch competitive play system. You leave match, you get suspended from comp play for a time. As far as getting kicked, remove the ability to kick players. If team can't function, then deal with it.

    Afraid removing the ability to kick would be far, far worse. Freeloading players who don't contribute at all and just afk or explore off on their own are already far too common; without a way to drop them, pugging would be even more horrid.
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  • Mintaka5
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    Ertosi wrote: »
    Mintaka5 wrote: »
    Implement the Overwatch competitive play system. You leave match, you get suspended from comp play for a time. As far as getting kicked, remove the ability to kick players. If team can't function, then deal with it.

    Afraid removing the ability to kick would be far, far worse. Freeloading players who don't contribute at all and just afk or explore off on their own are already far too common; without a way to drop them, pugging would be even more horrid.

    Overwatch will kick you from match and suspend you from comp for being idle. This includes not using your skills against enemies. I've personally NEVER experienced a free-loader in a dungeon before. Seems kinda boring to just go into a dungeon and do nothing.
  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    Ertosi wrote: »
    Mintaka5 wrote: »
    Implement the Overwatch competitive play system. You leave match, you get suspended from comp play for a time. As far as getting kicked, remove the ability to kick players. If team can't function, then deal with it.

    Afraid removing the ability to kick would be far, far worse. Freeloading players who don't contribute at all and just afk or explore off on their own are already far too common; without a way to drop them, pugging would be even more horrid.
    With the new DLC with a little preview story thing coming, that’s going to be a lot more common. Plus why is it so bad that people want to look around the area by themselves instead of getting rushed through the content?
  • Mintaka5
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    Ertosi wrote: »
    Mintaka5 wrote: »
    Implement the Overwatch competitive play system. You leave match, you get suspended from comp play for a time. As far as getting kicked, remove the ability to kick players. If team can't function, then deal with it.

    Afraid removing the ability to kick would be far, far worse. Freeloading players who don't contribute at all and just afk or explore off on their own are already far too common; without a way to drop them, pugging would be even more horrid.
    With the new DLC with a little preview story thing coming, that’s going to be a lot more common. Plus why is it so bad that people want to look around the area by themselves instead of getting rushed through the content?

    Exactly. I love wandering around dungeons. If other pugs have the patience of a gnat how is that my problem? Sometimes in life you need to learn how to put up with other people. It's what real grown-ups do.
  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    Mintaka5 wrote: »
    Ertosi wrote: »
    Mintaka5 wrote: »
    Implement the Overwatch competitive play system. You leave match, you get suspended from comp play for a time. As far as getting kicked, remove the ability to kick players. If team can't function, then deal with it.

    Afraid removing the ability to kick would be far, far worse. Freeloading players who don't contribute at all and just afk or explore off on their own are already far too common; without a way to drop them, pugging would be even more horrid.
    With the new DLC with a little preview story thing coming, that’s going to be a lot more common. Plus why is it so bad that people want to look around the area by themselves instead of getting rushed through the content?

    Exactly. I love wandering around dungeons. If other pugs have the patience of a gnat how is that my problem? Sometimes in life you need to learn how to put up with other people. It's what real grown-ups do.
    Eventually I’d love to try a dungeon for once, but seeing the threads about the “fake” tanks and dps, along with the people who rush or kick people who aren’t going up to their expectations just kinda sets me back from doing it. Like I want to admire the surroundings, not get rushed and then kicked when the others left and I can finally wander.
  • Mintaka5
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    Eventually I’d love to try a dungeon for once, but seeing the threads about the “fake” tanks and dps, along with the people who rush or kick people who aren’t going up to their expectations just kinda sets me back from doing it. Like I want to admire the surroundings, not get rushed and then kicked when the others left and I can finally wander.

    Same. I feel ya! I run with a guildy most of the time, because she appreciates the experience, the looting (we've gotten some decent drops in dungeons), and just sitting back and not stressing the game. Then I get rushed, kicked, trash-talked, and it feels less like a game and more like a damn punishment. I put the brakes on heavy in running dungeons, because of the lousy way LFG work in ESO. It's rare to meet a random group that just wants to play the game not exploit the hell out if it.

  • Na0cho
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    Little bit off topic, but I cannot stand volenfell.


    What a *** dungeon.

    Once I did it once on vet per char there was no reason to go back.

    Something about it just rubs me the wrong way and I don’t know why.

    In fact there’s a few dungeons I just straight up hate(doesn’t help I’m not a pve guy)

    I’d consider myself lucky to be kicked had I joined that dungeon in progress.
  • Agenericname
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    Mintaka5 wrote: »
    Ertosi wrote: »
    Mintaka5 wrote: »
    Implement the Overwatch competitive play system. You leave match, you get suspended from comp play for a time. As far as getting kicked, remove the ability to kick players. If team can't function, then deal with it.

    Afraid removing the ability to kick would be far, far worse. Freeloading players who don't contribute at all and just afk or explore off on their own are already far too common; without a way to drop them, pugging would be even more horrid.

    Overwatch will kick you from match and suspend you from comp for being idle. This includes not using your skills against enemies. I've personally NEVER experienced a free-loader in a dungeon before. Seems kinda boring to just go into a dungeon and do nothing.

    I doubt that I have ever met a true free-loader in a dungeon, or if I have it has been very few and far between. Most are either inexperienced or just aren't that good at it. In a normal or base game vet, who cares?

    With the exception of a few disconnects and fake tanks, every single person that I have ever seen kicked was done so when they blew a gasket and threw a tantrum. What you're suggesting is giving them a pass and penalizing me if/when I leave because I have no intention of running content with people like that.
    Edited by Agenericname on February 20, 2019 8:33PM
  • Ertosi
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    Ertosi wrote: »
    Mintaka5 wrote: »
    Implement the Overwatch competitive play system. You leave match, you get suspended from comp play for a time. As far as getting kicked, remove the ability to kick players. If team can't function, then deal with it.

    Afraid removing the ability to kick would be far, far worse. Freeloading players who don't contribute at all and just afk or explore off on their own are already far too common; without a way to drop them, pugging would be even more horrid.
    With the new DLC with a little preview story thing coming, that’s going to be a lot more common. Plus why is it so bad that people want to look around the area by themselves instead of getting rushed through the content?
    Mintaka5 wrote: »
    Ertosi wrote: »
    Mintaka5 wrote: »
    Implement the Overwatch competitive play system. You leave match, you get suspended from comp play for a time. As far as getting kicked, remove the ability to kick players. If team can't function, then deal with it.

    Afraid removing the ability to kick would be far, far worse. Freeloading players who don't contribute at all and just afk or explore off on their own are already far too common; without a way to drop them, pugging would be even more horrid.
    With the new DLC with a little preview story thing coming, that’s going to be a lot more common. Plus why is it so bad that people want to look around the area by themselves instead of getting rushed through the content?

    Exactly. I love wandering around dungeons. If other pugs have the patience of a gnat how is that my problem? Sometimes in life you need to learn how to put up with other people. It's what real grown-ups do.

    There's nothing wrong with wanting to explore in general, but when you're the only one in a group of four doing it, you're failing to read the room. When the other three players are fighting a boss and you're lagging behind seeing the sights or looting every single little crate then you're the problem, not them. If you are unable to see this, then you're likely to have other basic etiquette issues throughout your life (and likely don't think you're the problem there either).

    The common etiquette for dungeon exploration and looting is to wait for the dungeon run to be finished, then go back to explore and loot. This generally doesn't include obvious chests or heavy sacks, which are usually called out in chat when spotted. This avoids the problem of one person selfishly taking up the time of other players who may not wish to spend their time doing the same.
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    https://i.imgur.com/X8qY0gP.jpg to see a detailed comparison of this year's Q1 to the last two Q1s.
    https://i.imgur.com/4z71cK8.jpg to see a detailed comparison of each years' first two quarters combined.
    https://i.imgur.com/jrHe5h8.jpg to see a projected comparison of the full years and what 2019's Q4 will need to catch up.
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  • Alpheu5
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    Na0cho wrote: »
    Little bit off topic, but I cannot stand volenfell.


    What a *** dungeon.

    Once I did it once on vet per char there was no reason to go back.

    Something about it just rubs me the wrong way and I don’t know why.

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  • MagicalLija
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    Happened to me last boss Vet Scalecaller. Got so angry, quit the game for 2 days.


    Take my advice. If you wanna do Vet dungeons and are going for the monster mask. ALWAYS ask 1/2 guildmates. the randomer won't be able to just kick you randomly
  • SoLooney
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    Man, I cant ever imagine pugging dungeons again. Friends just roll through dungeons and guaranteed clears with no frustration:)
  • Sevn
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    Only happened to me once. To answer your question, Zos probably doesn't want players named and shamed due to it being two sides of a story. Even if you have video, there is no way for them to tell if it was doctored or not by you to paint yourself as the good guy.

    It's a PR nightmare that can be avoided by not allowing naming and shaming. My theory anyway, you'd have to ping one of them for an official answer.
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  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    Ertosi wrote: »
    Ertosi wrote: »
    Mintaka5 wrote: »
    Implement the Overwatch competitive play system. You leave match, you get suspended from comp play for a time. As far as getting kicked, remove the ability to kick players. If team can't function, then deal with it.

    Afraid removing the ability to kick would be far, far worse. Freeloading players who don't contribute at all and just afk or explore off on their own are already far too common; without a way to drop them, pugging would be even more horrid.
    With the new DLC with a little preview story thing coming, that’s going to be a lot more common. Plus why is it so bad that people want to look around the area by themselves instead of getting rushed through the content?
    Mintaka5 wrote: »
    Ertosi wrote: »
    Mintaka5 wrote: »
    Implement the Overwatch competitive play system. You leave match, you get suspended from comp play for a time. As far as getting kicked, remove the ability to kick players. If team can't function, then deal with it.

    Afraid removing the ability to kick would be far, far worse. Freeloading players who don't contribute at all and just afk or explore off on their own are already far too common; without a way to drop them, pugging would be even more horrid.
    With the new DLC with a little preview story thing coming, that’s going to be a lot more common. Plus why is it so bad that people want to look around the area by themselves instead of getting rushed through the content?

    Exactly. I love wandering around dungeons. If other pugs have the patience of a gnat how is that my problem? Sometimes in life you need to learn how to put up with other people. It's what real grown-ups do.

    The common etiquette for dungeon exploration and looting is to wait for the dungeon run to be finished, then go back to explore and loot.
    And by that point the game will surely kick you out due to the timer cause everyone else left.
  • DaveMoeDee
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    eliisra wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Umbro100 wrote: »
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    Were you being arrogant with better dps? Not judging but that is usually why people get kicked in these cases.

    Not one word was written during the whole run, except my Hi at the start.

    Also it might of just been a legit accident. This one type I accidentally kicked my friend from a trial run who was pulling majority of dps. To this day they don't let it go 😝. Did you try pming them?

    It's an actual possibility, considering they were really low CP. Some guy accidentally poked the kick button and the rest agreed thinking it was some "ready" feature.

    Actually happen to me a while back while I was tanking. Some newbie clicked the wrong thing and rest picked yes, in the middle of a boss fight lol. I got teleported out and ofc sent them a message. They where really upset and asked "Why did you leave us at the boss? We're all dead" :D

    Granted sometimes people do kick to let a guildie leech, but normally not the case when it total newbies.

    I remember the many times I invited people to group by mistake. Just mashed the wrong buttons.
    Edited by DaveMoeDee on February 20, 2019 9:26PM
  • StormChaser3000
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    Umbro100 wrote: »

    Why do I have a feeling that whenever people say No offence they actually go straight into offending you with condescending comments :)
    Of course everyone wants to have a great group of people to play with, of course you need a guild to do quality content but that is not the topic of this post. I often work odd hours so sometimes I play early in the morning and getting a steady veteran pledge group , especially the dlc-ones is not easy .So the group finder is a great idea, while I do some fishing. Only not so nice with people like that, using you to clear 90% of the content and kicking you before the last boss to get someone else in with whom they did not want to suffer through the whole run. I did not die during the run, know when to dodge, block or just get out of the aoe, but the tank died a few times , one guy had 12k health, died all the time, probably did not use food and still I did not say anything. You play a hand you are dealt and I played.

    So, just to be clear - did not offend anyone in the group, did not speak to anyone, no one spoke to me or to each other , I had good damage and they kicked me, before the last boss. We did not start the fight at the last boss, we just got there.
    Did not even bother with a - hey sorry mate a guild member just logged on who really needs this vet dungeon, we have to kick you ... The reason for this post was not really to complaint about what happened, not to ask advice how to find a decent group or how to join a guild or how to advertise my self in map chat- my question was, is still - Why is it forbidden to name the people who are doing this, when I have all the evidence ? Why do we all have to put up with this ?

    I know this is just a game. But when it is teaching us to overlook the bad stuff and just ignore or even worst, accept all what
    sleazeballs do maybe it is giving us a wrong message. I do not like it.

    Oh, if you didn't die at all maybe they accidentally kicked a wrong dps then...

    People are weird sometimes. I've just done Volenfel pledge on my tank. No deaths till the last boss. We read the scroll. I took the green boss far away into the corner as I was supposed to. Other 3 guys somehow died in the main area after a while. One dps got irritated and left. I didn't want it to be a wipe so I sprinted back and rezzed both remained players...while all 3 bosses were on my tail. Then I took green one back again and the guys managed to finish their job.

    If the hot headed dps stayed he/she would be rezzed too and finished the pledge quite fast. But he/she decided to be impatient. Their loss.

    Just throw that away from your head. All sorts of stuff happen in pugs.
  • Arunei
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    Mintaka5 wrote: »
    Implement the Overwatch competitive play system. You leave match, you get suspended from comp play for a time. As far as getting kicked, remove the ability to kick players. If team can't function, then deal with it.

    You're not taking into account toxic players you might get in a pug, or players who leech a run because they want to be carried, or times when you get into a dungeon (when doing random dailies) that you know you aren't ready for, or any other number of legitimate reasons why this would hurt more than it would help.

    I've only ever called to kick a person once in over five years, and that's because they were one of the DPS (I was the other) but they were constantly hiding during combat when they weren't spamming light attacks and the occasional skill. You might say this person may be new or something, but they had a decent number of CP, which indicates they'd gone through 1-50 and beyond, so they weren't so new they were still learning the game. They didn't reply in chat after wipes asking if they needed mechanics explained (the other 2 people were ones I'd been running the dungeon, which was nSCP, with already, so they knew what they were doing). This person was literally making it impossible for us to continue the dungeon, we kept wiping at the Gargoyle boss because they couldn't free people who got stoned thanks to hiding in a corner during the battle, they weren't burning down the stray orbs, because they were hiding, they weren't helping fight the boss because they were hiding. That person was wanting a carry, and if the thing you're suggesting was implemented, not only could they not be kicked for literally not contributing at all to the dungeon overall, but if the three of us who were actually doing the content had left the 'match', we'd have been hit with some arbitrary penalty.

    So no, it's not a matter of just 'dealing with it' if something you suggest is going to punish legitimate players while allowing those who are rude, belittling, patronizing, lazy, and so on continue to get away with such behavior because there's no way to drop them from the group. Being able to kick a player needs to remain a function so you can drop players who aren't contributing or who are being toxic to the group. Yes, it's going to get abused, sadly, and there really should be some way of keeping spite kicks and the sort from happening, but putting such strict limitations on grouping would only end up hurting players who are honestly trying to clear the content as much as the current system does.
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  • D0PAMINE
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    I have only kicked 3 people in 5 years. 2 were in Fg II who were stealing taunt and not doing any damage. They told me to "stfu" when I asked them to please stop taking the taunt as I was the tank. The 3rd was someone continuously spreading poison in a trial on purpose. @Umbro100 if you're PCNA I will get you through vVolenfell np.
  • Ravena
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    Happened to me in vet. scallecaller peak once, with a pug that seemed to be friends among each other.

    After I'd spent the whole dungeon teaching them the mechanics, too. They died a lot, but I was patient and stuck with them.

    Right as we finally come face-to-face with Zaan, sudden kick. Suppose they wanted another low-leveled buddy of theirs to complete it or w/e.

    I felt sooo betrayed and salty! I hope they had a hard time! This is why us tanks have PUG trust issues :<


    Edited by Ravena on February 20, 2019 10:40PM
  • DMuehlhausen
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    Can't heal stupid...

    Unfortunately without targeted heals, I'm forced to constantly in ESO
  • Umbro100
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    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    I have only kicked 3 people in 5 years. 2 were in Fg II who were stealing taunt and not doing any damage. They told me to "stfu" when I asked them to please stop taking the taunt as I was the tank. The 3rd was someone continuously spreading poison in a trial on purpose. @Umbro100 if you're PCNA I will get you through vVolenfell np.

    This is the first time that happened to me, but I read posts on the forum when others complained and wondered why is it not allowed to name the people doing it. After seeing all these answers I realize it would be hard to tell is some cases what really happened.
    Still it was interesting to read what people think...the ones that experienced it would like to do something about it, others say it must have been a mistake, maybe it is not even true, some almost suggest it is my own fault because I used the group finder :)
    I have the screenshot about our conversation after, when I asked why did they kicked me.Got no answer until I wrote I will report them because I have the screens, & the combat metrix , then I got the message - Good luck with that :) so I guess it was not the first and not the last time and they know nothing will happen.
    They stole my time, I used a lot of my potions, soul gems to rez , never said a word about them dying or not using food, put up with the long fights and in the end my reward was a kick and a mocking.What they did is not ok and it would be nice if I could do something about it.Not because I am an entitled crybaby, but because they ruined my morning. For a short while.
    Did some fishing, done the run later with another group , it was fast and people said ty and bb at the end. Felt good. Most of the people I end up with are decent folk.

    Thank you for the offer, I have done all the veteran pledges many times, just doing the dailies now for the transmutation stones.
  • D0PAMINE
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    Umbro100 wrote: »
    D0PAMINE wrote: »
    I have only kicked 3 people in 5 years. 2 were in Fg II who were stealing taunt and not doing any damage. They told me to "stfu" when I asked them to please stop taking the taunt as I was the tank. The 3rd was someone continuously spreading poison in a trial on purpose. @Umbro100 if you're PCNA I will get you through vVolenfell np.

    This is the first time that happened to me, but I read posts on the forum when others complained and wondered why is it not allowed to name the people doing it. After seeing all these answers I realize it would be hard to tell is some cases what really happened.
    Still it was interesting to read what people think...the ones that experienced it would like to do something about it, others say it must have been a mistake, maybe it is not even true, some almost suggest it is my own fault because I used the group finder :)
    I have the screenshot about our conversation after, when I asked why did they kicked me.Got no answer until I wrote I will report them because I have the screens, & the combat metrix , then I got the message - Good luck with that :) so I guess it was not the first and not the last time and they know nothing will happen.
    They stole my time, I used a lot of my potions, soul gems to rez , never said a word about them dying or not using food, put up with the long fights and in the end my reward was a kick and a mocking.What they did is not ok and it would be nice if I could do something about it.Not because I am an entitled crybaby, but because they ruined my morning. For a short while.
    Did some fishing, done the run later with another group , it was fast and people said ty and bb at the end. Felt good. Most of the people I end up with are decent folk.

    Thank you for the offer, I have done all the veteran pledges many times, just doing the dailies now for the transmutation stones.

    Word. Yeah i've been there. I've had to spam DK Chains on my tank during vArx HM because after the 7th rez of everyone, I just soloed the rest.
  • FluffyKitten
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    Wow, sad move by them, but what can you do, nothing against the rules to kick someone.

    I'm gonna take this opportunity to ask a question to you dungeon goers, what is the lowest dps you would be fine with your dds having in pug vet dungeons, when would you feel its ok to complain about it?

    (plot twist, I am the DD)
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    Wow, sad move by them, but what can you do, nothing against the rules to kick someone.

    I'm gonna take this opportunity to ask a question to you dungeon goers, what is the lowest dps you would be fine with your dds having in pug vet dungeons, when would you feel its ok to complain about it?

    (plot twist, I am the DD)

    Tbh, when I run randos in my guild my requirement is be polite, and if someone has a quest, let them do it.. They can run whatever build they feel like and idgf what level they are.

    For serious runs, I stick with my own crew.
    Edited by D0PAMINE on February 21, 2019 12:56AM
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    Some people are just ***!
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