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Orcs are fine now, just cause they have slight more damage in PvE than redguards doesnt make them OP
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miteba✭✭✭✭CurvedSwords123 wrote: »-Dark Elf (there are no hybrid DPs in ur game, rework pls)
I agree with your post with this exception.
I really really hope they stick with these changes. My favourite from miles away 😍
Hybrids exist and are awesome when thinking out of the box, with the only exception in vet raids ... and ESO is not only vet trials.
You have friendly hybrid sets and one specific (pelinal's) and the game seriously needs build diversity 😉Edited by miteba on February 10, 2019 6:53PM1 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CurvedSwords123 wrote: »-Dark Elf (there are no hybrid DPs in ur game, rework pls)
I agree with your post with this exception.
I really really hope they stick with these changes. My favourite from miles away 😍
Hybrids exist and are awesome when thinking out of the box, with the only exception in vet raids ... and ESO is not only vet trials.
You have friendly hybrid sets and one specific (pelinal's) and the game seriously needs build diversity 😉
You are right, but pelinal-wise this new passives doesn't help dunmer to be better hybrid then let's say orc or altmer. You will anyway build around stacking one type of damage and 1000HP+sprint+HP rpoc, or altmer's recovery proc seems comparable to 1875 of "secondary resource". If they simply gave dunmer let's say 3k magicka and 375 WD, yeah, it will be amazing for pvp hybrids.2 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Please tell me cozy role for imperial (3rd choice for tanking) and bosmer (simply weaker in anything than anybody, even weaker then imperial imo). Cozy role for altmer and dunmer who will be on par with breton only in case of top healers in group and will be forced to use heavy attacks in any hard for sustain situation.
@MartiniDaniels It will be obviously impossible to obtain a perfect balance. There are too many races for the classic roles of DPS, Healer and Tank.
Some races will be better for PVE, others for PVP, some will be better for specific raid roles as there will be others for niche builds (i can think one nice for bosmer).
For elite players there can be only one, in any case, for the role they choose so the others will be #2 #3 #4 etc etc
Non min-maxers dont have that "curse", if the races are well balanced, they can have fun with almost any choice.
But i have the same opinion as you that bosmer and imperial are last choices compared to others so:
- Imperials already were in a bad spot
- bosmer will be for niche builds atm
But lets see the futures PTS changes because i strongly believe that these 2 will be revaluated
We only have 1 chance left for changes. ZOS only does balance changes on PTS 1, 3, and 5 (these changes are final and usually don't get re-evaluated). This is why it's so important to spam your feedback now while there is still a chance to change something.Edited by MLGProPlayer on February 10, 2019 7:36PM2 -
Bigevilpeter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Please tell me cozy role for imperial (3rd choice for tanking) and bosmer (simply weaker in anything than anybody, even weaker then imperial imo). Cozy role for altmer and dunmer who will be on par with breton only in case of top healers in group and will be forced to use heavy attacks in any hard for sustain situation.
@MartiniDaniels It will be obviously impossible to obtain a perfect balance. There are too many races for the classic roles of DPS, Healer and Tank.
Some races will be better for PVE, others for PVP, some will be better for specific raid roles as there will be others for niche builds (i can think one nice for bosmer).
For elite players there can be only one, in any case, for the role they choose so the others will be #2 #3 #4 etc etc
Non min-maxers dont have that "curse", if the races are well balanced, they can have fun with almost any choice.
But i have the same opinion as you that bosmer and imperial are last choices compared to others so:
- Imperials already were in a bad spot
- bosmer will be for niche builds atm
But lets see the futures PTS changes because i strongly believe that these 2 will be revaluated
We only have 1 chance left for changes. ZOS only does balance changes on PTS 1, 3, and 5 (these changes are final and usually don't get re-evaluated). This is why it's so important to spam your feedback now while there is still a chance to change something.
Well I think the only races that need a slight buff are imperials and a very very tiny buff to wood elves, otherwise everything seems ok2 -
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Dunmer and Khajiit are not hybrids as in hybrid sets. They are versatile in that they can do both magic and stamina DD.CurvedSwords123 wrote: »CurvedSwords123 wrote: »Orcs just outclass Redguards now, especially with upcoming stat scaling. Not advocating for an orc nerf, but there definately needs to be parity buffs for other races. I agree with Alcast.
If redguard was still the clear stamina race I think a lot less people would be complaining.
Maybe, maybe not. Redguards were the clear stamrace for pve in the past, that was bad. Making orc better than everything in PvE and PvP (with the added benefit of survivability and not being restricted to WEP skills) is not the solution though. Again, not asking for an orc nerf, I'm glad orcs are happy with their goodies; ZoS just needs to distribute more goodies to other races now. I'm glad prominent ESO analysts feel the same way as I do. Let's not make this "Redguards and High Elves deserve to be at the bottom now cuz they were leet prior".
Races I feel need love in order of necessity:
-Redguard (WrathofInnos's ideas for Redguard are incredible)
-Imperial
-Altmer (just revert the change already)
-Dark Elf (there are no hybrid DPs in ur game, rework pls)
-Bosmer (give them some kind of stealth benefit)
Like honestly ZoS, if you need help with your decision making look to WrathofInnos's post, he has done an incredible and fair job with his suggestions to racial passives.
Dunmer is just 125 magic below Altmer and has the same spelldamage, they are also 125 stamina below orcs and has the same weapon damange.
Yes you get an weak 3rd effect because of this but Altmer and Bosmer also has an weak one here.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Please tell me cozy role for imperial (3rd choice for tanking) and bosmer (simply weaker in anything than anybody, even weaker then imperial imo). Cozy role for altmer and dunmer who will be on par with breton only in case of top healers in group and will be forced to use heavy attacks in any hard for sustain situation.
@MartiniDaniels It will be obviously impossible to obtain a perfect balance. There are too many races for the classic roles of DPS, Healer and Tank.
Some races will be better for PVE, others for PVP, some will be better for specific raid roles as there will be others for niche builds (i can think one nice for bosmer).
For elite players there can be only one, in any case, for the role they choose so the others will be #2 #3 #4 etc etc
Non min-maxers dont have that "curse", if the races are well balanced, they can have fun with almost any choice.
But i have the same opinion as you that bosmer and imperial are last choices compared to others so:
- Imperials already were in a bad spot
- bosmer will be for niche builds atm
But lets see the futures PTS changes because i strongly believe that these 2 will be revaluated
We only have 1 chance left for changes. ZOS only does balance changes on PTS 1, 3, and 5 (these changes are final and usually don't get re-evaluated). This is why it's so important to spam your feedback now while there is still a chance to change something.
Well I think the only races that need a slight buff are imperials and a very very tiny buff to wood elves, otherwise everything seems ok
Slight buff ? I dare ZOs to release 4.3.2 patch in PTS and let it go live. Its direct challenge to combat designers. Even school kid will do better maths than ZOs balance team. What a waste of money for ZOs. A minute of silence for ZOs shareholders.
There will be only race in PVP that is ORC. There is 3 free race change token right ?
Pathetic noobs streamers begging for cheese. Crybabies.Edited by Priyasekarssk on February 11, 2019 4:18AM2 -
Bigevilpeter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Priyasekarssk wrote: »Bigevilpeter wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Please tell me cozy role for imperial (3rd choice for tanking) and bosmer (simply weaker in anything than anybody, even weaker then imperial imo). Cozy role for altmer and dunmer who will be on par with breton only in case of top healers in group and will be forced to use heavy attacks in any hard for sustain situation.
@MartiniDaniels It will be obviously impossible to obtain a perfect balance. There are too many races for the classic roles of DPS, Healer and Tank.
Some races will be better for PVE, others for PVP, some will be better for specific raid roles as there will be others for niche builds (i can think one nice for bosmer).
For elite players there can be only one, in any case, for the role they choose so the others will be #2 #3 #4 etc etc
Non min-maxers dont have that "curse", if the races are well balanced, they can have fun with almost any choice.
But i have the same opinion as you that bosmer and imperial are last choices compared to others so:
- Imperials already were in a bad spot
- bosmer will be for niche builds atm
But lets see the futures PTS changes because i strongly believe that these 2 will be revaluated
We only have 1 chance left for changes. ZOS only does balance changes on PTS 1, 3, and 5 (these changes are final and usually don't get re-evaluated). This is why it's so important to spam your feedback now while there is still a chance to change something.
Well I think the only races that need a slight buff are imperials and a very very tiny buff to wood elves, otherwise everything seems ok
Slight buff ? I dare ZOs to release 4.3.2 patch in PTS and let it go live. Its direct challenge to combat designers. Even school kid will do better maths than ZOs balance team. What a waste of money for ZOs. A minute of silence for ZOs shareholders.
There will be only race in PVP that is ORC. There is 3 free race change token right ?
Pathetic noobs streamers begging for cheese. Crybabies.
Orc has 0 sustain passives their damage passives will still not make them a good PvP race as Bosmer or Redguard1 -
Itzmichi✭✭✭✭✭Let's just reroll races. Very unlikely that they gonna change the classes anymore, so we should accept the fact gracefully.Here, have a chill pill 💊!0 -
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✭✭@Bigevilpeter , sustain and damage passives are interchangeable, and I can see how redguads may be disadvantaged as orcs gave unconditional damage buffs they can trade, while redguad sustain comes with condition. But I'd reckon the uproar is not about pure combat stats (orcs have same ones as altmers, and altmers are pretty balanced damage wise now), but about a ton of secondary stats - health (which will let orcs run regen food in PvE and stay far above 16k without sacrificing an enchantment), speed and that heal (wonder if it'll proc Troll King).
I suspect that either health or max stamina may see a hit by the end of PTS cycle, but we'll see.Edited by John_Falstaff on February 11, 2019 12:23PM2 -
Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CurvedSwords123 wrote: »CurvedSwords123 wrote: »Orcs just outclass Redguards now, especially with upcoming stat scaling. Not advocating for an orc nerf, but there definately needs to be parity buffs for other races. I agree with Alcast.
If redguard was still the clear stamina race I think a lot less people would be complaining.
Maybe, maybe not. Redguards were the clear stamrace for pve in the past, that was bad. Making orc better than everything in PvE and PvP (with the added benefit of survivability and not being restricted to WEP skills) is not the solution though. Again, not asking for an orc nerf, I'm glad orcs are happy with their goodies; ZoS just needs to distribute more goodies to other races now. I'm glad prominent ESO analysts feel the same way as I do. Let's not make this "Redguards and High Elves deserve to be at the bottom now cuz they were leet prior".
Races I feel need love in order of necessity:
-Redguard (WrathofInnos's ideas for Redguard are incredible)
-Imperial
-Altmer (just revert the change already)
-Dark Elf (there are no hybrid DPs in ur game, rework pls)
-Bosmer (give them some kind of stealth benefit)
Like honestly ZoS, if you need help with your decision making look to WrathofInnos's post, he has done an incredible and fair job with his suggestions to racial passives.CurvedSwords123 wrote: »CurvedSwords123 wrote: »Orcs just outclass Redguards now, especially with upcoming stat scaling. Not advocating for an orc nerf, but there definately needs to be parity buffs for other races. I agree with Alcast.
If redguard was still the clear stamina race I think a lot less people would be complaining.
Maybe, maybe not. Redguards were the clear stamrace for pve in the past, that was bad. Making orc better than everything in PvE and PvP (with the added benefit of survivability and not being restricted to WEP skills) is not the solution though. Again, not asking for an orc nerf, I'm glad orcs are happy with their goodies; ZoS just needs to distribute more goodies to other races now. I'm glad prominent ESO analysts feel the same way as I do. Let's not make this "Redguards and High Elves deserve to be at the bottom now cuz they were leet prior".
Races I feel need love in order of necessity:
-Redguard (WrathofInnos's ideas for Redguard are incredible)
-Imperial
-Altmer (just revert the change already)
-Dark Elf (there are no hybrid DPs in ur game, rework pls)
-Bosmer (give them some kind of stealth benefit)
Like honestly ZoS, if you need help with your decision making look to WrathofInnos's post, he has done an incredible and fair job with his suggestions to racial passives.
But thanks to the unmitigated whining and tantrum throwing that was nothing short of childish and pathetic, it’s very possible that orcs get nerfed while other classes get buffed resulting in a double nerf, as ZOS has done in the past, although I’m really hoping the new combat team is better than that. Because people didn’t do any testing they just cried and whines and screamed and made untrue statements, biased claims and made a far, far bigger deal out of what was essentially a 1-2k more dps on a 6 million target skeleton. It’s just sad. A large handful of forum users really just took it over the top.6 -
CurvedSwords123✭✭✭CurvedSwords123 wrote: »-Dark Elf (there are no hybrid DPs in ur game, rework pls)
I agree with your post with this exception.
I really really hope they stick with these changes. My favourite from miles away 😍
Hybrids exist and are awesome when thinking out of the box, with the only exception in vet raids ... and ESO is not only vet trials.
You have friendly hybrid sets and one specific (pelinal's) and the game seriously needs build diversity 😉
Sure man, if u'r a DE guy and u can make hybrids work in PvP I'm happy for u lol.0 -
CurvedSwords123✭✭✭CurvedSwords123 wrote: »CurvedSwords123 wrote: »Orcs just outclass Redguards now, especially with upcoming stat scaling. Not advocating for an orc nerf, but there definately needs to be parity buffs for other races. I agree with Alcast.
If redguard was still the clear stamina race I think a lot less people would be complaining.
Maybe, maybe not. Redguards were the clear stamrace for pve in the past, that was bad. Making orc better than everything in PvE and PvP (with the added benefit of survivability and not being restricted to WEP skills) is not the solution though. Again, not asking for an orc nerf, I'm glad orcs are happy with their goodies; ZoS just needs to distribute more goodies to other races now. I'm glad prominent ESO analysts feel the same way as I do. Let's not make this "Redguards and High Elves deserve to be at the bottom now cuz they were leet prior".
Races I feel need love in order of necessity:
-Redguard (WrathofInnos's ideas for Redguard are incredible)
-Imperial
-Altmer (just revert the change already)
-Dark Elf (there are no hybrid DPs in ur game, rework pls)
-Bosmer (give them some kind of stealth benefit)
Like honestly ZoS, if you need help with your decision making look to WrathofInnos's post, he has done an incredible and fair job with his suggestions to racial passives.CurvedSwords123 wrote: »CurvedSwords123 wrote: »Orcs just outclass Redguards now, especially with upcoming stat scaling. Not advocating for an orc nerf, but there definately needs to be parity buffs for other races. I agree with Alcast.
If redguard was still the clear stamina race I think a lot less people would be complaining.
Maybe, maybe not. Redguards were the clear stamrace for pve in the past, that was bad. Making orc better than everything in PvE and PvP (with the added benefit of survivability and not being restricted to WEP skills) is not the solution though. Again, not asking for an orc nerf, I'm glad orcs are happy with their goodies; ZoS just needs to distribute more goodies to other races now. I'm glad prominent ESO analysts feel the same way as I do. Let's not make this "Redguards and High Elves deserve to be at the bottom now cuz they were leet prior".
Races I feel need love in order of necessity:
-Redguard (WrathofInnos's ideas for Redguard are incredible)
-Imperial
-Altmer (just revert the change already)
-Dark Elf (there are no hybrid DPs in ur game, rework pls)
-Bosmer (give them some kind of stealth benefit)
Like honestly ZoS, if you need help with your decision making look to WrathofInnos's post, he has done an incredible and fair job with his suggestions to racial passives.
But thanks to the unmitigated whining and tantrum throwing that was nothing short of childish and pathetic, it’s very possible that orcs get nerfed while other classes get buffed resulting in a double nerf, as ZOS has done in the past, although I’m really hoping the new combat team is better than that. Because people didn’t do any testing they just cried and whines and screamed and made untrue statements, biased claims and made a far, far bigger deal out of what was essentially a 1-2k more dps on a 6 million target skeleton. It’s just sad. A large handful of forum users really just took it over the top.
It's a feedback thread and I'm giving feedback. I'm being clear I don't want orcs nerfed, I legit want everyone to be happy with their races changes.Edited by CurvedSwords123 on February 11, 2019 12:56PM0 -
CurvedSwords123✭✭✭CurvedSwords123 wrote: »CurvedSwords123 wrote: »CurvedSwords123 wrote: »Orcs just outclass Redguards now, especially with upcoming stat scaling. Not advocating for an orc nerf, but there definately needs to be parity buffs for other races. I agree with Alcast.
If redguard was still the clear stamina race I think a lot less people would be complaining.
Maybe, maybe not. Redguards were the clear stamrace for pve in the past, that was bad. Making orc better than everything in PvE and PvP (with the added benefit of survivability and not being restricted to WEP skills) is not the solution though. Again, not asking for an orc nerf, I'm glad orcs are happy with their goodies; ZoS just needs to distribute more goodies to other races now. I'm glad prominent ESO analysts feel the same way as I do. Let's not make this "Redguards and High Elves deserve to be at the bottom now cuz they were leet prior".
Races I feel need love in order of necessity:
-Redguard (WrathofInnos's ideas for Redguard are incredible)
-Imperial
-Altmer (just revert the change already)
-Dark Elf (there are no hybrid DPs in ur game, rework pls)
-Bosmer (give them some kind of stealth benefit)
Like honestly ZoS, if you need help with your decision making look to WrathofInnos's post, he has done an incredible and fair job with his suggestions to racial passives.CurvedSwords123 wrote: »CurvedSwords123 wrote: »Orcs just outclass Redguards now, especially with upcoming stat scaling. Not advocating for an orc nerf, but there definately needs to be parity buffs for other races. I agree with Alcast.
If redguard was still the clear stamina race I think a lot less people would be complaining.
Maybe, maybe not. Redguards were the clear stamrace for pve in the past, that was bad. Making orc better than everything in PvE and PvP (with the added benefit of survivability and not being restricted to WEP skills) is not the solution though. Again, not asking for an orc nerf, I'm glad orcs are happy with their goodies; ZoS just needs to distribute more goodies to other races now. I'm glad prominent ESO analysts feel the same way as I do. Let's not make this "Redguards and High Elves deserve to be at the bottom now cuz they were leet prior".
Races I feel need love in order of necessity:
-Redguard (WrathofInnos's ideas for Redguard are incredible)
-Imperial
-Altmer (just revert the change already)
-Dark Elf (there are no hybrid DPs in ur game, rework pls)
-Bosmer (give them some kind of stealth benefit)
Like honestly ZoS, if you need help with your decision making look to WrathofInnos's post, he has done an incredible and fair job with his suggestions to racial passives.
But thanks to the unmitigated whining and tantrum throwing that was nothing short of childish and pathetic, it’s very possible that orcs get nerfed while other classes get buffed resulting in a double nerf, as ZOS has done in the past, although I’m really hoping the new combat team is better than that. Because people didn’t do any testing they just cried and whines and screamed and made untrue statements, biased claims and made a far, far bigger deal out of what was essentially a 1-2k more dps on a 6 million target skeleton. It’s just sad. A large handful of forum users really just took it over the top.
It's a feedback thread and I'm giving feedback. I'm being very clear that I don't want to see orcs nerfed. I legit want everyone to be happy with the upcoming changes to their favourite races.
I butter fingered this, meant to edit. I strongly feel the best warriors in the lore deserve more than just some sustain. Like don't Bretons get sustain and toughness? Hoping this third wave of changes are satisfying for everyone.Edited by CurvedSwords123 on February 11, 2019 12:59PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭CurvedSwords123 wrote: »Orcs just outclass Redguards now, especially with upcoming stat scaling. Not advocating for an orc nerf, but there definately needs to be parity buffs for other races. I agree with Alcast.
If redguard was still the clear stamina race I think a lot less people would be complaining.
Is that an admission that Orc is now in the same position as the "clear stamina race"?
Why do we want to repeat the same mistake? So they can do a third racial pass a year from now and tick off all the new Orc players?2 -
CurvedSwords123✭✭✭CurvedSwords123 wrote: »Orcs just outclass Redguards now, especially with upcoming stat scaling. Not advocating for an orc nerf, but there definately needs to be parity buffs for other races. I agree with Alcast.
If redguard was still the clear stamina race I think a lot less people would be complaining.
Is that an admission that Orc is now in the same position as the "clear stamina race"?
Why do we want to repeat the same mistake? So they can do a third racial pass a year from now and tick off all the new Orc players?
Exactly! Let's get it right this time. Like they are administering race change tokens now. No one wants to see adjustments in a couple of months.0 -
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✭✭I still think that giving Orc 1000 Health, 2000 Stamina, and the 258 Weapon Damage is not balanced with what other races are getting. I mean where is Altmer's 1000 health if we are comparing Orc and Altmer stats?
Also, If you watch Fengrush's video you will see he is jumping out of his chair with happiness compared to Alcast's WTF moment. Everyone seems to have a bias...
In the end it isn't a huge difference, but 1000 health is enough of a stat boost to use Orc on any build I want to do competitive DPS on. That will allow me to go with purple or yellow food and I won't have to add health from as many other sources. Also the sprint cost reduction and sprint speed is nice for repositioning and avoiding mechanics. Also, when things go sideways and you have to kite a boss more speed is always good.
In the end I don't care that much if Orc is the clear choice for stamina DPS, but I would like to see Bosmer and Imperial made a little more compelling before this patch goes live.Playing since beta...3 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭I still think that giving Orc 1000 Health, 2000 Stamina, and the 258 Weapon Damage is not balanced with what other races are getting. I mean where is Altmer's 1000 health if we are comparing Orc and Altmer stats?
Also, If you watch Fengrush's video you will see he is jumping out of his chair with happiness compared to Alcast's WTF moment. Everyone seems to have a bias...
In the end it isn't a huge difference, but 1000 health is enough of a stat boost to use Orc on any build I want to do competitive DPS on. That will allow me to go with purple or yellow food and I won't have to add health from as many other sources. Also the sprint cost reduction and sprint speed is nice for repositioning and avoiding mechanics. Also, when things go sideways and you have to kite a boss more speed is always good.
In the end I don't care that much if Orc is the clear choice for stamina DPS, but I would like to see Bosmer and Imperial made a little more compelling before this patch goes live.CurvedSwords123 wrote: »CurvedSwords123 wrote: »Orcs just outclass Redguards now, especially with upcoming stat scaling. Not advocating for an orc nerf, but there definately needs to be parity buffs for other races. I agree with Alcast.
If redguard was still the clear stamina race I think a lot less people would be complaining.
Maybe, maybe not. Redguards were the clear stamrace for pve in the past, that was bad. Making orc better than everything in PvE and PvP (with the added benefit of survivability and not being restricted to WEP skills) is not the solution though. Again, not asking for an orc nerf, I'm glad orcs are happy with their goodies; ZoS just needs to distribute more goodies to other races now. I'm glad prominent ESO analysts feel the same way as I do. Let's not make this "Redguards and High Elves deserve to be at the bottom now cuz they were leet prior".
Races I feel need love in order of necessity:
-Redguard (WrathofInnos's ideas for Redguard are incredible)
-Imperial
-Altmer (just revert the change already)
-Dark Elf (there are no hybrid DPs in ur game, rework pls)
-Bosmer (give them some kind of stealth benefit)
Like honestly ZoS, if you need help with your decision making look to WrathofInnos's post, he has done an incredible and fair job with his suggestions to racial passives.CurvedSwords123 wrote: »CurvedSwords123 wrote: »Orcs just outclass Redguards now, especially with upcoming stat scaling. Not advocating for an orc nerf, but there definately needs to be parity buffs for other races. I agree with Alcast.
If redguard was still the clear stamina race I think a lot less people would be complaining.
Maybe, maybe not. Redguards were the clear stamrace for pve in the past, that was bad. Making orc better than everything in PvE and PvP (with the added benefit of survivability and not being restricted to WEP skills) is not the solution though. Again, not asking for an orc nerf, I'm glad orcs are happy with their goodies; ZoS just needs to distribute more goodies to other races now. I'm glad prominent ESO analysts feel the same way as I do. Let's not make this "Redguards and High Elves deserve to be at the bottom now cuz they were leet prior".
Races I feel need love in order of necessity:
-Redguard (WrathofInnos's ideas for Redguard are incredible)
-Imperial
-Altmer (just revert the change already)
-Dark Elf (there are no hybrid DPs in ur game, rework pls)
-Bosmer (give them some kind of stealth benefit)
Like honestly ZoS, if you need help with your decision making look to WrathofInnos's post, he has done an incredible and fair job with his suggestions to racial passives.
But thanks to the unmitigated whining and tantrum throwing that was nothing short of childish and pathetic, it’s very possible that orcs get nerfed while other classes get buffed resulting in a double nerf, as ZOS has done in the past, although I’m really hoping the new combat team is better than that. Because people didn’t do any testing they just cried and whines and screamed and made untrue statements, biased claims and made a far, far bigger deal out of what was essentially a 1-2k more dps on a 6 million target skeleton. It’s just sad. A large handful of forum users really just took it over the top.
This patch is for noob streamers. These noobs doesn't even know to block CCs, players CC them right in front of them.
Noob streamers who cannot play without abusing movement speed and buggy targeting system on high movement speeds. They can't go outside of eso. There is nothing going to come out other than exploiting movement speed. No strategy . No 1vx. If you want real 1vx watch Sypher or kodi. You can learn how they react to people actions when multiple people on their front and how they manage LOS even when retreating, block/dodge at right times and he gets to back of stunned opponents to finish him. Now a days all noobs think abusing movement speed , abuse targetting system and running behind objects is 1vX. Thats the best ESO can offer. Very sad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT3C1FZxtPI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2MJfpo91Lg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj7YPJHmzqM
No wonder he is having 2 million+ followers . People who can play on any builds any race/class. They will be top pros of any game they play. Honestly there is no true PVP pros in ESO at world class level right now considering alcast is focused on PVE strategies.
Who is going to agree your statement ? Orc is overwhelmingly overpowered in pvp. Period and end of discussion. Get ready to face hordes of pigs in opposition. What test did you did first all? Did you ever test in Pvp ?Edited by Priyasekarssk on February 17, 2019 4:21PM2
