Largest Zerg

Crown · February 2019

@_Crow I saw on discord that you were looking to break your record of 86 players in raid. If you're curious, the largest zerg I ever commanded was (if I recall correctly) in 2014, where there were six full raids + pugs following. It was the first time Lolimage was crowned emperor. I had 198 people in my TeamSpeak (though I'm not sure how many of those were actually playing).

If anyone wants the exact date, we can ask Lolimage to check his Emperor achievement date.

Back then the server didn't poop itself when more than 50 players were in one area, so good luck if you try to do something like that these days!

Crispen_Longbow · February 2019

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · February 2019

Crown wrote: »

@_Crow I saw on discord that you were looking to break your record of 86 players in raid. If you're curious, the largest zerg I ever commanded was (if I recall correctly) in 2014, where there were six full raids + pugs following. It was the first time Lolimage was crowned emperor. I had 198 people in my TeamSpeak (though I'm not sure how many of those were actually playing).

If anyone wants the exact date, we can ask Lolimage to check his Emperor achievement date.

Back then the server didn't poop itself when more than 50 players were in one area, so good luck if you try to do something like that these days!

It wouldn't be possible to have a raid this large in cyro with the current server caps unless you multi faction raided

NirnStorm · February 2019

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Crown wrote: »

@_Crow I saw on discord that you were looking to break your record of 86 players in raid. If you're curious, the largest zerg I ever commanded was (if I recall correctly) in 2014, where there were six full raids + pugs following. It was the first time Lolimage was crowned emperor. I had 198 people in my TeamSpeak (though I'm not sure how many of those were actually playing).

If anyone wants the exact date, we can ask Lolimage to check his Emperor achievement date.

Back then the server didn't poop itself when more than 50 players were in one area, so good luck if you try to do something like that these days!

It wouldn't be possible to have a raid this large in cyro with the current server caps unless you multi faction raided

Doubt that would stop Crow from trying.

Kelces · February 2019

Crispen_Longbow wrote: »

Bad timing, I guess...

Don't judge too early, you might miss something quite enjoyable.

_Crow · February 2019

Thanks @Crown ! Guess every PvP player in the game is in my discord at this point... Lol! But ya, they lowered the cap since back in the day, cause in Pact Militia, we had 120ish one night 🤔. But the game was different back then.

It's more of a goal for my guild personally to see if we can break our own record, cause we have gotten SUPER close to 100 players, but haven't yet crossed that line. We will see tonight if we can though! 😃

_Crow · February 2019

You know me so well @NirnStorm ...

Ahtu · February 2019

Why did you stop leading factions? I'm not sure if you still do or not. At any rate I'm sure that was a sight to behold.

idk · February 2019

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Crown wrote: »

@_Crow I saw on discord that you were looking to break your record of 86 players in raid. If you're curious, the largest zerg I ever commanded was (if I recall correctly) in 2014, where there were six full raids + pugs following. It was the first time Lolimage was crowned emperor. I had 198 people in my TeamSpeak (though I'm not sure how many of those were actually playing).

If anyone wants the exact date, we can ask Lolimage to check his Emperor achievement date.

Back then the server didn't poop itself when more than 50 players were in one area, so good luck if you try to do something like that these days!

It wouldn't be possible to have a raid this large in cyro with the current server caps unless you multi faction raided

And Cyrodiil cap was so much higher when the game launched in 2014. A full server now is a pittance to what one was almost 5 years ago.

Zos has reduced the cap more than once in order to improve server performance. We still filled up multiple campaigns back then which really shows how much smaller the PvP community is today.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · February 2019

idk wrote: »

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Crown wrote: »

@_Crow I saw on discord that you were looking to break your record of 86 players in raid. If you're curious, the largest zerg I ever commanded was (if I recall correctly) in 2014, where there were six full raids + pugs following. It was the first time Lolimage was crowned emperor. I had 198 people in my TeamSpeak (though I'm not sure how many of those were actually playing).

If anyone wants the exact date, we can ask Lolimage to check his Emperor achievement date.

Back then the server didn't poop itself when more than 50 players were in one area, so good luck if you try to do something like that these days!

It wouldn't be possible to have a raid this large in cyro with the current server caps unless you multi faction raided

And Cyrodiil cap was so much higher when the game launched in 2014. A full server now is a pittance to what one was almost 5 years ago.

Zos has reduced the cap more than once in order to improve server performance. We still filled up multiple campaigns back then which really shows how much smaller the PvP community is today.

It's almost as if nerfing group tools and introducing performance issues was a bad thing for the server populations...

zyk · February 2019

Don't encourage him...

/facepalm

Crown · February 2019

Ahtu wrote: »

Why did you stop leading factions? I'm not sure if you still do or not. At any rate I'm sure that was a sight to behold.

@Ahtu My wife and I started playing the game shortly after we lost our home (and everything in it) to a fire. It was a great distraction for the year following, and we made some good friends that we've kept to this day. About 2.5 years ago we bought a new house in a new city, I started a new job, our lives (real life) got a lot busier and better, and the game got a lot worse - to the point that we quit the game for about 9 months.

When we came back to play more casually (mostly for the social aspects / friends), AD was a mess and I really didn't want to rebuild a guild and put the time/effort in to manage things, so we joined some friends on DC in Vehemence until that guild stopped raiding. For a few months we played in small groups on all three factions, I raided with Invictus on EP twice a week until that guild stopped raiding too, and now I'm happy to raid twice a week with Omni on AD and play casual small groups on DC and EP other times when I feel like it - rather than feeling like I have to be on every night.

That's pretty much my ESO career ;-)

TBois · February 2019

I wonder if they are considering lowering the population cap again due to performance issues. AotP needs to hurry and break 100 this weekend. If they don't, they may never due to even lower population caps.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · February 2019

TBois wrote: »

I wonder if they are considering lowering the population cap again due to performance issues. AotP needs to hurry and break 100 this weekend. If they don't, they may never due to even lower population caps.

I'm sure when IC is removed we'll see the cap lowered by around 24 players at least

Ahtu · February 2019

Thanks Crown. You are a good player and leader. It's been a joy to fight your zergs.

Grimlok_S · February 2019

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

TBois wrote: »

I wonder if they are considering lowering the population cap again due to performance issues. AotP needs to hurry and break 100 this weekend. If they don't, they may never due to even lower population caps.

I'm sure when IC is removed we'll see the cap lowered by around 24 players at least

Or the other way around, you'll have 24 more spots up top! - Despite their 13th member and up not receiving TV, I still see some massive groups in IC.

DeadlyRecluse · February 2019

I remember serving in the Lolimage zerg. Emp sorc healing springs were wonderful.

"One big fat man, roll your proxies."

The first time I ever lead a group in PvP was after he had to leave for some reason and he let the crown get assigned randomly. I did not do well.

Mrsinister2 · February 2019

They had 65 ep at the bridge the other night and ad still wiped them

ChefZero · February 2019

Has ZOS ever released numbers on the caps? I think in the beginning it was 600vs600vs600?

Steelshiv · February 2019

_Crow wrote: »

Thanks @Crown ! Guess every PvP player in the game is in my discord at this point... Lol! But ya, they lowered the cap since back in the day, cause in Pact Militia, we had 120ish one night 🤔. But the game was different back then.

It's more of a goal for my guild personally to see if we can break our own record, cause we have gotten SUPER close to 100 players, but haven't yet crossed that line. We will see tonight if we can though! 😃

Crow, I agree with what you and your guild does. From what I've read and seen, your mission is banding PUGs and more experienced solo players/groups into one large, formidable unit. You've inspired me to do the same with AD ... But think of the servers man :O They're gonna literally MELT.

Also, I'm curious as to how you run raids and would totally PvP with your group given the chance ^_^

_Crow · February 2019

@Steelshiv Glad to hear it! I play this game for the huge Lord of the Rings like Battles that are just crazy! 😃 But the funny thing is, I get a lot of hate from the very loud minority, but the silent majority loves Zerging! (Hence why zergs are a thing haha!) So you run your huge Zerg and let ZOS worry about their servers!

I have builds setup for group V groups, and we have comms and everyone stays with crown, but the Maine thing I focus on is Make sure the group has fun! That's all that matters! And a another cool thing, is that we are bringing a LOT of people into PvP! We got 30+ players recently that never liked PvP and only PvEed, but they ran with us once and now they are hooked and some are thinking about starting their own guilds! 😊

AP gets hate from the people who push the more casual and fun first members away from the game, but guilds like AP bring people into PvP. 😉 And they let a lot of people have fun, more then don't. The solo people and Zone Generals will never see it that way, but it's because they have lost touch on the majority of the PvP community.

_Crow · February 2019

And you are welcome to join a raid sometime @Steelshiv and see what it's like! Out door is open to all of ESO ☺️

usmcjdking · February 2019

So this is happening tonight?

zyk · February 2019

Steelshiv wrote: »

Crow, I agree with what you and your guild does. From what I've read and seen, your mission is banding PUGs and more experienced solo players/groups into one large, formidable unit. You've inspired me to do the same with AD ... But think of the servers man :O They're gonna literally MELT.

I hope this is sarcasm. AD doesn't need a zerg lord. Please don't.

It's disgusting that you would put these guys on a pedestal, especially while recognizing the impact their selfish decisions have on the game.

No one should aspire to be what they are: bad players who use numbers and extreme lag to compensate for their shortcomings. They don't care how they win, they only care about winning through any means possible -- despite their lack of aptitude in games.

Anyone capable of leading a raid is capable of running 3 or more. The reason others don't do it is because it's bad for the game and provides an ungratifying experience to all but the least sophisticated players. They are basically an ignorant blob of homer simpson cast rejects.

DeadlyRecluse · February 2019

Honestly...

I'd laugh my ass off if Crown started to seriously zerg/pugwrangle these days. I'm not sure 2019 ESO PvP is ready for that.

_Crow · February 2019

@usmcjdking it is... But we will see if we can actually do it haha! Either way we are running a lot Tonight hopefully! 😉

Ahtu · February 2019

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Honestly...

I'd laugh my ass off if Crown started to seriously zerg/pugwrangle these days. I'm not sure 2019 ESO PvP is ready for that.

Somebody has to step up and do it if they want to remain competitive.

usmcjdking · February 2019

Y

Ahtu wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Honestly...

I'd laugh my ass off if Crown started to seriously zerg/pugwrangle these days. I'm not sure 2019 ESO PvP is ready for that.

Somebody has to step up and do it if they want to remain competitive.

Competetive?

What? Even if ESO were a remotely competitive game the only competitive thing you provide is a campaign score boost which is wide enough to be non-competitive anyways.

People need to stop throwing this word around especially when they actually have never experienced real competition.

Raammzzaa · February 2019

_Crow wrote: »

@Steelshiv Glad to hear it! I play this game for the huge Lord of the Rings like Battles that are just crazy! 😃 But the funny thing is, I get a lot of hate from the very loud minority, but the silent majority loves Zerging! (Hence why zergs are a thing haha!) So you run your huge Zerg and let ZOS worry about their servers!

I have builds setup for group V groups, and we have comms and everyone stays with crown, but the Maine thing I focus on is Make sure the group has fun! That's all that matters! And a another cool thing, is that we are bringing a LOT of people into PvP! We got 30+ players recently that never liked PvP and only PvEed, but they ran with us once and now they are hooked and some are thinking about starting their own guilds! 😊

AP gets hate from the people who push the more casual and fun first members away from the game, but guilds like AP bring people into PvP. 😉 And they let a lot of people have fun, more then don't. The solo people and Zone Generals will never see it that way, but it's because they have lost touch on the majority of the PvP community.

Great post! For many new and/or casual players this is how they first learn to play and have fun in Cyrodiil. I run with an organized guild these days, but I still remember first going into Cyrodiil, posting up “lfg” and having a blast with the pug army leader that picked me up!

I hope you guys find some good fights!

_Crow · February 2019

Ty @Raammzzaa ☺️! If someone joins my guild to get familiar with the game and have some fun, then leaves to join a more hardcore guild, then I would have accomplished my goal!

WitchyWarrior · February 2019

Steelshiv wrote: »

_Crow wrote: »

Thanks @Crown ! Guess every PvP player in the game is in my discord at this point... Lol! But ya, they lowered the cap since back in the day, cause in Pact Militia, we had 120ish one night 🤔. But the game was different back then.

It's more of a goal for my guild personally to see if we can break our own record, cause we have gotten SUPER close to 100 players, but haven't yet crossed that line. We will see tonight if we can though! 😃

Crow, I agree with what you and your guild does. From what I've read and seen, your mission is banding PUGs and more experienced solo players/groups into one large, formidable unit. You've inspired me to do the same with AD ... But think of the servers man :O They're gonna literally MELT.

Also, I'm curious as to how you run raids and would totally PvP with your group given the chance ^_^

Crow is a great crown! My most favorite one in 5 years of pvping.
There are multiple reasons why...
I trust what he says.
In past raids I've been in, there have been crowns that made dumb choices over & over again. That's a big reason why I've mostly been a solo player.
I've learned more from being in his raid groups than any other group in the past.
He is patient with people and VERY helpful.
His raids are FUN! He is big on having fun, which is nice. He's not mean or demeaning at ALL to anyone. If you mess up, it's not a big deal AND he is good at explaining how to fix whatever the issue was.

But the biggest thing that stands out to me is how he is in Zone & how he's willing to take randoms & actually help them.
He is not at all negative even with the few regulars that rag on him the entire night he's running.
The way I see it is most, if not all of the people in the small group of Crow haters out there have never run in his raids.
They are stuck in their ways, they don't understand what a joke is, or sarcasm and they can't STAND that zone doesn't put up with their CONSTANT negative comments & constant insults that are spewed out by the same small group every single night.

I think it would be GREAT if AD had more organized groups running. despite what some have said here. From what I've heard, AD is losing players partly because of the lack of groups forming that know what they are doing & have the temperament to stick with it & stay consistent AND that are PUG groups.
Everyone was new once. I think it would make a HUGE difference in the amount of new players that actually stick with PVP by having more beginner friendly Guilds out there, on all factions.

I don't run in his raids anymore, but that has nothing to do with Crow.
I really miss the fun of being a part of them, Discord and all.
If people ask about helpful pvp guilds to join, I always recommend AotP.
Being on both sides(in the guild & running in Crows raid group/Not being in Guild, running solo while the raids are also running), I can see how some have issues with it & I can see how some people are full of crap & have NO idea what they are talking about.

Anyway, sorry for the novel, but it gets really annoying seeing the same few people say the things they do about Crow & his guild.
AND I wanted to tell you that I hope AD gets something similar. The majority of AD people that have killed me are great people & are really nice. I hope they all stay and you guys get more as well.