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Are you 'owed' anything?
USTTech
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From perusing the forums, I see some people say they are 'owed' free things. So do you feel you deserve more or not?
Edited by USTTech on February 7, 2019 1:02AM Are you 'owed' anything? 243 votes
Yes, ZOS owes me more 'free' stuff because I am a subscriber
14%
35 votes
No, 'free' is a gift, and I am not owed anything
37%
90 votes
There is no such thing as a free lunch. It is a business
30%
75 votes
Other
17%
43 votes
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zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭OtherAn Khajiit buff would be nice nothing OP, say some block cost reduction to make us more of an potato race.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.16 -
FierceSam✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭OtherYes.
I am owed a game that doesn’t crash out every 30 minutes or so, where the FPS in major cities is at least into double figures, the ping is below 3 figures, the servers are robust and up to the job and there is no lag. That should be what my sub gets me.
Everything else is a bonus.11 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭OtherI'm owed an explanation as to why they haven't frickin updated the forum icons in almost 2 years."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
Bring Back Pure Class Build Power1 -
redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is no such thing as a free lunch. It is a businessI give them money. They give me stuff. Some day I'll stop giving them money and they will stop giving me stuff.
The end.12 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, 'free' is a gift, and I am not owed anythingHell no. Game runs fine (eh, yah, I'm aware others have issues - my only issue is satellite for "broadband".... and I don't crash etc. even with that.... things is just.... y'know.... like molasses running uphill in January at the North Pole....)
Love ESO, love ESO+. I'm a happy camper.1 -
russelmmendoza✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, 'free' is a gift, and I am not owed anythingIm not owed anything.
But I do hate the nerfs.
Free is free, they dont owe me anything.0 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, 'free' is a gift, and I am not owed anythingTechnically Free Lunches exist. Kids get them when they have parents with low class incomes.CP2,200+ Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!0 -
Genomic✭✭✭✭✭OtherActually, I think I'm more in the 'no free lunch' camp.
ZOS is a business. If you think about it, nothing they give out is 'free'. Any assets have to be created by programmers, who are paid by customer subscriptions and purchases. If no one paid ZOS, there would be no supposed 'free' items to give. This is besides the fact that the giving of these items is a business decision, designed to entice player retention/spending and keep the company earning money.1 -
AlienatedGoat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭OtherIf I paid for it, you bet your ass. I'm a stickler for consumer rights.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa6 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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Or you work in an company with an free staff restaurant. Granted I treat it like an free but early three-course dinner.Technically Free Lunches exist. Kids get them when they have parents with low class incomes.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
jainiadral✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, ZOS is a business. However, unhappy subs are customers. Customers want value for their dollar/Euro/whatever. This is an official forum for ZOS' customers to either talk to other customers about the game or leave feedback for the devs. That can be requests, compliments, or complaints about the value said customers are receiving.
The whole concept of "free lunches" doesn't apply here.
I'm not of the camp that feels that my sub is declining in value, but I also understand that some of my fellow customers might have a different opinion. So I'm sure as heck not going to chastize them for expressing their unhappiness in the appropriate venue.Edited by jainiadral on February 7, 2019 1:42AM7 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, 'free' is a gift, and I am not owed anything
Yah thats too bad, i work at a place with a cafe, but its discounted not free. And only accepts cash.....what was this thread about again?CP2,200+ Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!1 -
RebornV3x✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭OtherWe paid for a product so ZOS should deliver the best possible product on top of that many people here foolishly pay every month to support this game and subscribe so I can I don't get the whole free lunches thing even "free" lunches arn't free but anyways this thread is kinda dumb...Xbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.2 -
Gnortranermara✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, 'free' is a gift, and I am not owed anythingThey owe us ethical business practices, that's all.3 -
ezio45✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, 'free' is a gift, and I am not owed anythingA working, well preforming game with enjoyable combat is something they probably should give us if they enjoy our money3 -
DaveMoeDee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Dumb poll.
ZOS wants satisfied customers. Customers also want value from services they pay for. It is the right of customers to complain and it is the right of businesses to listen or ignore them.7 -
FleetwoodSmack✭✭✭✭✭
✭OtherWhere's the Cyrodiil performance fixes they've been rolling out the last few years? O-Oh.
Oh.
Oh we got rid of the deer instead.Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!0 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is no such thing as a free lunch. It is a businessPoll is super biased and leading3 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭There is no such thing as a free lunch. It is a businessEverything we receive costs them far less to make than it costs us. Those “free” ESO+ perks aren’t free, they cost ~$15 a month3 -
sionIV✭✭✭✭✭OtherI pay every month for access to the game. ZoS OWES me access to the game. Sadly ZoS doesn't have a very good product when it comes to stability and performance, and there are times when I either don't have access to the game, or where the quality of that access is what I consider bad. ZoS do not owe me any free stuff, but they do owe me the service I pay for, and when they can't deliver that, it would be nice with some form of compensation as a sign of goodwill, which they don't do either.
As a business, ZoS delivers a very bad service, and it's a miracle that there are customers out there defending them. You would not defend an internet provider that only covered 90% of the days that you paid for, who had a very unstable internet connection and didn't answer the phone when you called for support.Edited by sionIV on February 7, 2019 4:28AM5 -
Morgul667✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I am entitled to have what i paid for
Supporting a company that provides bad service is even more crazy for me that those who feel entitled for things
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klowdy1✭✭✭✭✭No, 'free' is a gift, and I am not owed anythingThis is their game they allow us to play. It isn't as if they are out to be vicious, or purposely upset people. They are making changes they think are right. Life brings change, you won't like all of it.2
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, 'free' is a gift, and I am not owed anything.Edited by Gilvoth on February 7, 2019 4:52AM0 -
SteveCampsOut✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭OtherTechnically Free Lunches exist. Kids get them when they have parents with low class incomes.
Technically someone else is paying for them.@ֆȶɛʋɛƈǟʍքֆօʊȶ⍟
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Catelyn Rivers - Breton - Sorcerer - Destruction Staff - Daggerfall Covenant - Telvanni Magister.
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Alys Karstark - Nord - Nightblade - Bow/Dual Wield - Ebonheart Pact - Minstrel.
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Brandon Wings - Altmer - Templar - Restoration Staff - Healer - Aldmeri Dominion - Scholar.
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