Imperial suggestion: twice born star

vgabor · February 2019

What's the identity, the main aspect of the imperial race? They supposed to be jack of all trades, good at everything, but you cannot be good at everything at the same time. If I think about a good jack of all trades types I'd think about flexibility, they should be versatile, able to choose what they want to focus and then good at that.

I think the best race bonus for imperial is not a static buff, but something a player can choose and specialise at, I would seriously consider giving the imperial a twice born star bonus: +1 mundus stone.

So the imperial character may have a very good sustain, may have damage bonus, may have critical bonus, but you have to choose which one want to focus and wont be good in all at the same time.

Roboplus · February 2019

I'm pretty sure that would just cause Imperials to wear Twice Born for 3 Mundus and get the most out of their Divine traits.

Not that I'm inherently against it.

validifyedneb18_ESO · February 2019

Roboplus wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that would just cause Imperials to wear Twice Born for 3 Mundus and get the most out of their Divine traits.

Not that I'm inherently against it.

That does sound cool though lol

TimeDazzler · February 2019

Not a horrible idea, for comparison:

ORC: 2000 STAMINA, 1000 HEALTH, 258 WEP DMG, 12% SPRINT COST, 10% SPRINT SPEED, DMG FROM WEP 600 HEALTH EVERY 4s (EQUALS 300 HEALTH REGEN, 150 IF IN PVP).

IMPERIAL: 2000 STAMINA, 2000 HEALTH, 238 WEP DMG (with extra mundus being warrior).

martijnlv40 · February 2019

I actually like this change. It would help diversity, since an imperial should make in inheritent different build than other races. This should however be accompanied by nerfs to their stats, I would argue for a 1500 health, 1250 stamina and 1250 magicka resource stat bonus and then the extra mundus stone.

ToRelax · February 2019

That sounds pretty cool.

FrankonPC · February 2019

I like this a lot.

MartiniDaniels · February 2019

I of course like it, but this is hilariously powerful without nerf of other parameters.

XomRhoK · February 2019

vgabor wrote: »

I think the best race bonus for imperial is not a static buff, but something a player can choose and specialise at, I would seriously consider giving the imperial a twice born star bonus: +1 mundus stone.

If you like this idea you must be like my ideas in this thread
If in short, there is lore friendly racial passives for almost all races that buffs for %

armor, weapon, jewelry traits;
potions, poisons, food, drink effects;
mundus stones effects
enchantments

For example, Redguards "Weapon mastery" passive, that buffs weapon trait for, let say, 30%. And player by choosing weapon trait can adjust his racial passive, like with morphs. He can buff damage for DD spec, or buff defence, or ultimate gain, or healing done, whatever he wants.
Mundus stone passive i gave to Khajiit, because of their moon connection.

MartiniDaniels · February 2019

XomRhoK wrote: »

vgabor wrote: »

I think the best race bonus for imperial is not a static buff, but something a player can choose and specialise at, I would seriously consider giving the imperial a twice born star bonus: +1 mundus stone.

If you like this idea you must be like my ideas in this thread
If in short, there is lore friendly racial passives for almost all races that buffs for %
armor, weapon, jewelry traits;

potions, poisons, food, drink effects;

mundus stones effects

enchantments

For example, Redguards "Weapon mastery" passive, that buffs weapon trait for, let say, 30%. And player by choosing weapon trait can adjust his racial passive, like with morphs. He can buff damage for DD spec, or buff defence, or ultimate gain, or healing done, whatever he wants.
Mundus stone passive i gave to Khajiit, because of their moon connection.

This is best ideas I heard in this 3 weeks really. ZOS better leave all the race rebalancing to next patch and try to create new system with things you mentioned. Probably some OP combinations will appear, but they may be adjusted later. At least each race will have unique flavor instead of petty 500-1000 difference in max resource which just makes obvious balance flaws.

Lord_Eomer · February 2019

vgabor wrote: »

What's the identity, the main aspect of the imperial race? They supposed to be jack of all trades, good at everything, but you cannot be good at everything at the same time. If I think about a good jack of all trades types I'd think about flexibility, they should be versatile, able to choose what they want to focus and then good at that.

I think the best race bonus for imperial is not a static buff, but something a player can choose and specialise at, I would seriously consider giving the imperial a twice born star bonus: +1 mundus stone.

So the imperial character may have a very good sustain, may have damage bonus, may have critical bonus, but you have to choose which one want to focus and wont be good in all at the same time.

or give imperials 7%-10% buff to mundus stone effect

FrancisCrawford · February 2019

Great idea!

It might require a lot of coding on ZoS' part, however, so they are not likely to do it unless they're very sure it's a good idea.

Holycannoli · February 2019

+1 from me on this idea

which also means we won't see it

Mattock_Romulus · February 2019

This idea is great! I have a full set of golded Twice Born Star gear just sitting around too. 3 mundus stones would be nice.

NobleX35 · February 2019

This idea is interesting, but has the potential to be very OP. Also it would really push Imperial into use twice born star with full divines to get the most out the effects. A more reasonable approach would be something like this:

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

or give imperials 7%-10% buff to mundus stone effect

However, this effect is significantly to low. 10% of the warrior mundus would only equate to an additional ~24 wd, so the percentage should probably be closer to 50%.

ToRelax · February 2019

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NobleX35 wrote: »

This idea is interesting, but has the potential to be very OP. Also it would really push Imperial into use twice born star with full divines to get the most out the effects. A more reasonable approach would be something like this:

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

or give imperials 7%-10% buff to mundus stone effect

However, this effect is significantly to low. 10% of the warrior mundus would only equate to an additional ~24 wd, so the percentage should probably be closer to 50%.

How is that any different though? It still makes Twice Born Star more effective.

NobleX35 · February 2019

ToRelax wrote: »

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NobleX35 wrote: »

This idea is interesting, but has the potential to be very OP. Also it would really push Imperial into use twice born star with full divines to get the most out the effects. A more reasonable approach would be something like this:

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

or give imperials 7%-10% buff to mundus stone effect

However, this effect is significantly to low. 10% of the warrior mundus would only equate to an additional ~24 wd, so the percentage should probably be closer to 50%.

How is that any different though? It still makes Twice Born Star more effective.

The synergy would still be there, but would not be nearly as strong as having the ability to have 3 different mundus stones at full strength.