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Earthgore?
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Irylia✭✭✭✭✭
✭TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »
So basically it messes up your noob farming, I understand.
I know you're trying to troll, but you're just confirming everyone's point. Bad players are getting saved by a strong set. So, thanks!
But why are small scalers not going after other good small scalers?
Too even of a fight? Seems to me all I hear is whining about not being able to easily take down a large group with only a few players.
Players in a group with dedicated healers always will do better.
You do realize Earthgore has to is proc'd by healing a target under 50% health right?
So it takes slotting heals and using them at the right time, the very reason small scalers don't like it as the have to waste DPS slots on heals.
“Timing”
Mutagen 20secs
Purify aoe hot
It’s not like you were woke and casted hotd the moment yourgroup got negate bombed and heroically saved the group with a well timed burst heal to proc earthgore and cleanse the negate.
No, more likely you had been spamming mutagen while running around, like a headless chicken, killing the small clusters of players with your skilled and tactically sized 16+ Man. Just to get outplayed by a smaller group who baited you to a choke and dumped on 3/4 your group bringing them to execute just to get saved by a random eg (multiple) because you also got caught in the stun+negate.Edited by Irylia on February 4, 2019 8:10PM7 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'll still be running it on my mag-den and mag plar next patch! xDDDDDDDDDD Good game! How it's not nerfed yet is so mind blowing but heh if they want to keep it in game I'll keep using it
I honestly don't get it either. Healing is out of control in PvP and these sets are a large part of it, yet they want to add even more sets that heal? I seriously wonder if anyone at ZOS actually TESTS some of these sets and CP combinations. My guess is its not being tested, otherwise they would know that most of these sets heal more than actual skills do, and if that's the case, why bother making a healing build?
I seriously question why I don't just slot 3 healing proc sets whenever I heal in PvP. The performance is almost identical to me stressing myself out healing with skills. With proc sets I'd only have to spam one skill and keep HoTs up + I could wear heavy (or even better medium) and take LESS damage, build more stam into my build and then just roll when they are on CD if I'm focused. Not to mention having to worry less about managing my mag pool... Hm...
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TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »
So basically it messes up your noob farming, I understand.
I know you're trying to troll, but you're just confirming everyone's point. Bad players are getting saved by a strong set. So, thanks!
But why are small scalers not going after other good small scalers?
Too even of a fight? Seems to me all I hear is whining about not being able to easily take down a large group with only a few players.
Players in a group with dedicated healers always will do better.
You do realize Earthgore has to is proc'd by healing a target under 50% health right?
So it takes slotting heals and using them at the right time, the very reason small scalers don't like it as the have to waste DPS slots on heals.
“Timing”
Mutagen 20secs
Purify aoe hot
It’s not like you were woke and casted hotd the moment yourgroup got negate bombed and heroically saved the group with a well timed burst heal to proc earthgore and cleanse the negate.
No, more likely you had been spamming mutagen while running around, like a headless chicken, killing the small clusters of players with your skilled and tactically sized 16+ Man. Just to get outplayed by a smaller group who baited you to a choke and dumped on 3/4 your group bringing them to execute just to get saved by a random eg (multiple) because you also got caught in the stun+negate.
If you use Mutagen in PvP you will be hated by your ally nightblades, you use the rapid regen morph which is better anyway.
And then you use it as part of a rotation, why waste resources spamming it. You watch your crowns and leads health bars and apply healing as needed, usually healing springs which must be aimed at the right spot. Same tactics if you heal a large or small group and also DPS. Because you don't actually play organized you assume a lot of wrong things.Edited by TequilaFire on February 4, 2019 9:53PM0 -
montiferus✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: ». Because you don't actually play organized you assume a lot of wrong things.
Lol. I'm almost speechless but not quite.
You are so talented you should fight Irylia's group on PC. You could even do it on the PTS so you can have a level playing field.
This should be broadcasted on Twitch so we can all see how talented you and your group are.0 -
FrankonPC✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »
If you use Mutagen in PvP you will be hated by your ally nightblades, you use the rapid regen morph which is better anyway.
And then you use it as part of a rotation, why waste resources spamming it. You watch your crowns and leads health bars and apply healing as needed, usually healing springs which must be aimed at the right spot. Same tactics if you heal a large or small group and also DPS. Because you don't actually play organized you assume a lot of wrong things.
You know the best part of all of this, is you very well could be a good healer, I don't know. However, anyone running earthgore with extended ritual has the same life saving abilities you do with this set, whether they're playing or not.0 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I play DPS off healer in a medium sized PvP guild group. As a matter of fact I prefer to use Troll King over Earthgore when I am not using a DPS monster set.
What I am objecting to is all the insults about group play from players talking out the wrong orfice, no matter who they are.
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p00tx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭delete snipe, earthgore and timestop
And Subterranean Assault (an ability that hits like an ultimate), and Spin to Win (an undodgeable, unblockable, AoE execute...brilliant Zos), and Callurians, and Talons (which apparently has zero cooldown so you can be locked into place by one DK after another until you're dead), and etc, etc, etc...
Any of those things on their own, coming from one player, are not a problem, and can be easily outplayed. Coming from 50, 70, 100 players all mashed together? Huuuuge problem. Infuriating even. One more time for the kids sleeping in the back: the sets are not the problem. The zergs are the problem. Blame the players for abusing the sets. Taking away the sets or skills will not stop the behavior, because weak or lazy people will consistently seek out the easiest road to get where they're going and they will only find something else to abuse en masse, which will start the rage-screaming all over again.
inb4 someone comes swaggering in here with their e-peen swinging, telling me i don't know what I'm talking about, I am a non-farming, non-boosting, nearly 4 star player in Vivec as well as an end-game PvEer. Leave the sets alone and focus on the real problem.
Yes, EG and Timestop and the like annoy me enough that I've rage quit the game for a night, on more than one occasion, but I still haven't lost sight of the real problem here. There is too much incentive to mash together for safety, and not enough incentive to get the hell away from one another. We need to see some sort of AP share mechanic where the more players of your alliance are present, the less AP you get on a tic. That would at least dampen some of these pathetic farming blobs a bit. Maybe anything over 20 players starts to see diminishing returns, and anything over 40 sees INTENSE diminishing returns. 60+ should get almost no AP for a keep take, and almost certainly nothing for taking an empty keep.Edited by p00tx on February 4, 2019 11:48PMPC/Xbox NA
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vamp_emily✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I usually just use earthgore when doing trials but decided to put it on for BG.
pfft.. OP really? Nothing could save my group from dying. Most the "cries" I see is when Earthgore is used in a large group. What wouldn't be OP in large groups?
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FrankonPC✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »I play DPS off healer in a medium sized PvP guild group. As a matter of fact I prefer to use Troll King over Earthgore when I am not using a DPS monster set.
What I am objecting to is all the insults about group play from players talking out the wrong orfice, no matter who they are.TequilaFire wrote: »So basically it messes up your noob farming, I understand.TequilaFire wrote: »All the salty bombblades. lmao
Feel free to go back and read through the thread, but the people objecting to earthgore provided their reasons, you just accused them of wanting their own builds to be op, or them being bombblades. Seems like a lot of projection to me, possibly out of the wrong orifice
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Tatertodd✭✭ZOS please put aside your Dragon DLC money and separate PVP from PVE! Separating the two would be a great financial move and overall it would be easier on us, you and it will bring in even MORE Money and players.
I swear I needed a few shots of whiskey to help me finish reading through this thread.Edited by Tatertodd on February 11, 2019 11:51PM0 -
Trinity_Is_My_Name✭✭✭✭✭
✭Make a PVP server and a PVE server. Done. No more issues with PVE players fighting the nerf calls from PVP players.0