With Khajiit Stealth Going back to 3m...

Ertosi
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The latest PTS is reducing Khajiit Stealth bonus from 5m back down to 3m. This is fine for Khajiit as that puts us right back were we already were on Live, but what's going to happen to that other 2m? So that it's not wasted, can we please give that spare Stealth bonus back to our Bosmer brothers so they can remain proper sneaky forest elves? Thanks!
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No new crafting or game systems for 2019? "Season of the Dragon" would be better named "The Year of no New Major Features"
https://i.imgur.com/TPscgS9.jpg to see major features of the last few years compared.
https://i.imgur.com/X8qY0gP.jpg to see a detailed comparison of this year's Q1 to the last two Q1s.
https://i.imgur.com/4z71cK8.jpg to see a detailed comparison of each years' first two quarters combined.
https://i.imgur.com/jrHe5h8.jpg to see a projected comparison of the full years and what 2019's Q4 will need to catch up.
Unsubbed January 15th, 2019 due to the lack of any new substantial features shown to be coming in 2019.
  • Elwendryll
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    Ertosi wrote: »
    The latest PTS is reducing Khajiit Stealth bonus from 5m back down to 3m. This is fine for Khajiit as that puts us right back were we already were on Live, but what's going to happen to that other 2m? So that it's not wasted, can we please give that spare Stealth bonus back to our Bosmer brothers so they can remain proper sneaky forest elves? Thanks!

    Are you a Bosmer main sneakily trying to pass as a Khajiit main?
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  • Left4Daud
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    They already said they are aware players want more options for sneaking efficiently and will look at adding it to other areas of the game as opposed to back to Bosmer racials.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Elwendryll wrote: »
    Ertosi wrote: »
    The latest PTS is reducing Khajiit Stealth bonus from 5m back down to 3m. This is fine for Khajiit as that puts us right back were we already were on Live, but what's going to happen to that other 2m? So that it's not wasted, can we please give that spare Stealth bonus back to our Bosmer brothers so they can remain proper sneaky forest elves? Thanks!

    Are you a Bosmer main sneakily trying to pass as a Khajiit main?

    No, khajiits simply don't like when something disappears without profit, and giving those 2m to bosmer will reduce the gap and chance that khajiit's bonus will be reduced in next iteration.
  • Ertosi
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    Left4Daud wrote: »
    They already said they are aware players want more options for sneaking efficiently and will look at adding it to other areas of the game as opposed to back to Bosmer racials.

    Not quite. This is what they said:
    Bosmer: Note: Reps specifically asked about the community’s concern that bosmers are trading stealth for different buffs. We were told that ZOS saw these concerns and would work on creating more options/systems for stealth gameplay outside of race. With these additions, stealth gameplay will open up to more players, and also allow bosmers to have the nice combat buff will still having avenues to be as stealthy as before.

    Which is just code for: "We heard you but are ignoring both lore and players. Feel free to use the gear-related options available to everyone."

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    MayaStamblade Speedster
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    No new crafting or game systems for 2019? "Season of the Dragon" would be better named "The Year of no New Major Features"
    https://i.imgur.com/TPscgS9.jpg to see major features of the last few years compared.
    https://i.imgur.com/X8qY0gP.jpg to see a detailed comparison of this year's Q1 to the last two Q1s.
    https://i.imgur.com/4z71cK8.jpg to see a detailed comparison of each years' first two quarters combined.
    https://i.imgur.com/jrHe5h8.jpg to see a projected comparison of the full years and what 2019's Q4 will need to catch up.
    Unsubbed January 15th, 2019 due to the lack of any new substantial features shown to be coming in 2019.
  • SodanTok
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    Ertosi wrote: »
    Left4Daud wrote: »
    They already said they are aware players want more options for sneaking efficiently and will look at adding it to other areas of the game as opposed to back to Bosmer racials.

    Not quite. This is what they said:
    Bosmer: Note: Reps specifically asked about the community’s concern that bosmers are trading stealth for different buffs. We were told that ZOS saw these concerns and would work on creating more options/systems for stealth gameplay outside of race. With these additions, stealth gameplay will open up to more players, and also allow bosmers to have the nice combat buff will still having avenues to be as stealthy as before.

    Which is just code for: "We heard you but are ignoring both lore and players. Feel free to use the gear-related options available to everyone."

    So not doing what some people want and some dont is now ignoring? :D
  • Ertosi
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    SodanTok wrote: »
    Ertosi wrote: »
    Left4Daud wrote: »
    They already said they are aware players want more options for sneaking efficiently and will look at adding it to other areas of the game as opposed to back to Bosmer racials.

    Not quite. This is what they said:
    Bosmer: Note: Reps specifically asked about the community’s concern that bosmers are trading stealth for different buffs. We were told that ZOS saw these concerns and would work on creating more options/systems for stealth gameplay outside of race. With these additions, stealth gameplay will open up to more players, and also allow bosmers to have the nice combat buff will still having avenues to be as stealthy as before.

    Which is just code for: "We heard you but are ignoring both lore and players. Feel free to use the gear-related options available to everyone."

    So not doing what some people want and some dont is now ignoring? :D

    Well, yeah. Intentionally disregarding people is the literal definition of ignoring.

    And my quote above from Gina was taken directly from the Class Rep meeting with the devs where it was stated this was the perspective of the majority of players and ZOS's reply was synonymous with "don't care and not changing our stance".


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    MayaStamblade Speedster
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    No new crafting or game systems for 2019? "Season of the Dragon" would be better named "The Year of no New Major Features"
    https://i.imgur.com/TPscgS9.jpg to see major features of the last few years compared.
    https://i.imgur.com/X8qY0gP.jpg to see a detailed comparison of this year's Q1 to the last two Q1s.
    https://i.imgur.com/4z71cK8.jpg to see a detailed comparison of each years' first two quarters combined.
    https://i.imgur.com/jrHe5h8.jpg to see a projected comparison of the full years and what 2019's Q4 will need to catch up.
    Unsubbed January 15th, 2019 due to the lack of any new substantial features shown to be coming in 2019.
  • Left4Daud
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    Ertosi wrote: »

    Which is just code for: "We heard you but are ignoring both lore and players. Feel free to use the gear-related options available to everyone."

    As a self proclaimed master thief I’m sure you’ll do just fine with whatever stealth changes are/aren’t introduced going forward.
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