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Race Change Tokens Oversight - PSA

MashmalloMan
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You can ONLY race change within your faction if you do not own the "Any Race, Any Alliance" upgrade.

The poll is to get a feel for the amount of people who actually own this upgrade.

Edit: The Adventurer's Pack costs 1900, I'd ask that ZOS please put this pack on sale if it isn't already, along with your intention for race/name change tokens to go on sale. Please do this regardless of how many people already have the upgrade (seems to be pretty high for forum users so far, but this demographic and sample size doesn't necessarily represent the wider player base.).
Edited by MashmalloMan on February 4, 2019 6:30PM
@MashmalloMan - PC NA

PC Beta - 2400+ CP

Race Change Tokens Oversight - PSA 184 votes

I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
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I do not have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
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  • zaria
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    I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    And guess lots are not aware of this restriction.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • MashmalloMan
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    I do not have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    How much is the adventures pack to get this upgrade? Can't check right now, people may be interested in purchasing it if they planned on race changing.
    @MashmalloMan - PC NA

    PC Beta - 2400+ CP
  • eso_nya
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    I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    How much is the adventures pack to get this upgrade? Can't check right now, people may be interested in purchasing it if they planned on race changing.

    1900 crowns
  • MashmalloMan
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    I do not have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    zaria wrote: »
    And guess lots are not aware of this restriction.

    Yep.. I didn't think it through till I went on PTS to test it out because I was testing all the races and didn't feel like making new toons to reallocate skill points. That was a bit shocking to say the least and I haven't seen a single person mention it who has been against monetizing racial balance.
    Edited by MashmalloMan on February 4, 2019 6:20PM
    @MashmalloMan - PC NA

    PC Beta - 2400+ CP
  • grannas211
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    I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    How much is the adventures pack to get this upgrade? Can't check right now, people may be interested in purchasing it if they planned on race changing.

    1900 Crowns

    Edit: Harry Potter above me ^
    Edited by grannas211 on February 4, 2019 6:19PM
  • zaria
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    I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    zaria wrote: »
    And guess lots are not aware of this restriction.

    Yep.. I didn't think it through till I went on PTS to test it out because I was testing all the races and didn't feel like making new toons to reallocate skill points. That was a bit shocking to say the least and I haven't seen a single person mention it who has been against monetizing racial balance.
    It was part of preorder bonuses.
    And yes it will trigger lots of people after they get the 3 free ones.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • susmitds
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    I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    You can get for like 1$ from code reseller sites like G2A.
  • Jolipinator
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    I do not have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    Someone in zone chat earlier today was demanding a refund for this very reason. They bought a race change token and assumed they could pick any race.
    PS5 EU.
  • MashmalloMan
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    I do not have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    susmitds wrote: »
    You can get for like 1$ from code reseller sites like G2A.

    Thanks! Will check that out for myself.
    zaria wrote: »
    zaria wrote: »
    And guess lots are not aware of this restriction.

    Yep.. I didn't think it through till I went on PTS to test it out because I was testing all the races and didn't feel like making new toons to reallocate skill points. That was a bit shocking to say the least and I haven't seen a single person mention it who has been against monetizing racial balance.
    It was part of preorder bonuses.
    And yes it will trigger lots of people after they get the 3 free ones.

    Ahh.. I played the beta, but started on PS4 before transitioning to PC. Explains why so many people already have it.
    @MashmalloMan - PC NA

    PC Beta - 2400+ CP
  • MashmalloMan
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    I do not have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    Just realized this would of been better to be posted in to General although it relates to the patch.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno
    Edited by MashmalloMan on February 4, 2019 6:45PM
    @MashmalloMan - PC NA

    PC Beta - 2400+ CP
  • zaria
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    I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    Just realized this would of been better to be posted in to General although it relates to the patch.
    Good point, has to buy load of popcorn.

    And no you are not kicked because of race but because you spam snipe / crystal frag / HA with ice staff in an vet dlc while queuing as tank or healer.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Tasear
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    Throw it in as a daily reward and kill two birds with one stone?
  • MLGProPlayer
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    I do not have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    I don't, and that's pretty expensive (~$20 here in Canada). ZOS must be licking their chops this patch. They're going to make a fortune from race change tokens and adventurer packs. No wonder they're purposely running balance in round 2 of the PTS. Balance was never the goal. Sellling this junk was.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on February 4, 2019 6:55PM
  • MLGProPlayer
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    I do not have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    susmitds wrote: »
    You can get for like 1$ from code reseller sites like G2A.

    What do you search to find it on there?
  • anadandy
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    I do not have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    You can ONLY race change within your faction if you do not own the "Any Race, Any Alliance" upgrade.
    ...
    Edit: The Adventurer's Pack costs 1900, I'd ask that ZOS please put this pack on sale if it isn't already, along with your intention for race/name change tokens to go on sale.

    I've brought this up in the pinned announcement thread twice so far and *crickets*. As someone above said - a lot of people don't seem aware of this limitation and man, I don't want to be on the forums the day after that happens.

    A sale on the Adventurer Pack along with the race/name change tokens would be a great idea.
  • JPcrazysquirrel3
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    I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    You can ONLY race change within your faction if you do not own the "Any Race, Any Alliance" upgrade.

    The poll is to get a feel for the amount of people who actually own this upgrade.

    Edit: The Adventurer's Pack costs 1900, I'd ask that ZOS please put this pack on sale if it isn't already, along with your intention for race/name change tokens to go on sale. Please do this regardless of how many people already have the upgrade (seems to be pretty high for forum users so far, but this demographic and sample size doesn't necessarily represent the wider player base.).

    This poll isn't a very good gauge of this, considering not everyone that plays ESO is on the forums.
    "Wood Elves aren't made of wood. Sea Elves aren't made of water. M'aiq still wonders about High Elves."
    "It's just not a home until you decorate the torture chamber, am I right?"
    "If you want to lose 10lbs of ugly fat, I'd be happy to chop your head off!"
    "Degenerates!" --- Todd Howard
    "If it's not broke, don't fix it,....unless you're ZO$ and are just doing it for the money!" --- Me
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    Class reps are just like our politicians. They promise mountains made of gold for us, but in the end, whenever they can they try to push their own agenda.

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    PC (just for PTS since Dragon Bones)
    --- JP_Dovahkriid

    Playing since console release in 2015

    17 characters; mainly play PvE tanks and healer, as well as PvP stamDK, magplar, and stamblade; I also have a handful of DPS toons to have variety. All AD, with one, now PvE, DC toon.

    I was on the forums before, but something happened with my account info and I had to create a new account.
  • Dr.NRG
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    I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    I would argue most people who are good enough gamers who this matters to are also eso plus subscribers. So they will have enough crowns to purchase this upgrade easy. Besides that, the dlcs and other upgrades are quite affordable compared to other games. So if you really care then go and spend the 1900 crowns. There also plenty crown sales so you could wait for that or maybe even have someone gift the upgrade to you.
    Either way I dont think getting this upgrad is hard, pay to win or anything like that. We have bigger issues to be concerned about cause if those dont get fixed then it doesnt matter what race you are. (unless you play a redguard warden next patch lol)
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    I do not have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    This was a genius move by ZOS.

    They checked their internal population statistics and saw that Dunmer and Altmer were the two most popular magicka DPS races. So what do they do? They pummel them with a sledgehammer. Who do they make the new top races? Breton and Khajii! Dunmer now have to buy the ARAA upgrade no matter what and Altmer need to buy it if they don't want to play as a Khajiit (which many people don't because they don't enjoy the aesthetic of the beast races).
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on February 5, 2019 3:17AM
  • Vapirko
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    I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    This was/is one of the most worthwhile purchases in the crown store. I did it for free with sub crowns when I still paid.
  • cyberjanet
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    I do not have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    The problem with crown store purchases is that they are valid only for the server they are bought on. All the DLC I bought in Europe is not available to me in NA. I'm certainly not buying an Any Race Any Alliance twice.
    Favourite NPC: Wine-For-All
    Mostly PC-EU , with a lonely little guy on NA.
  • Olupajmibanan
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    I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    Standard Crown price is 300g per Crown at EU. It won't cost you more than 600k gold which is entirely possible to make within a week.
  • Elwendryll
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    I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    I may be a bad person, but... as a khajiit main, it is satisfying to see all the forum ablaze, and its user crying in despair. I knew one day, the cats would take over Nirn.
    My adventurer pack cost like 0.8 euros, a friend was taking an order on G2A and asked if I needed anything.
    Edited by Elwendryll on February 5, 2019 8:36AM
    PC - EU - France - AD
    Main character: Qojikrin - Khajiit Sorcerer Tank/Stamina DD - since March 25, 2015.
    Guildmaster of Oriflamme: Focus on 4 player endgame content.
    Member of Brave Cat Trade, Panda Division and Toadhuggers.

    All 4-man trifectas - TTT, IR, GH
  • MLGProPlayer
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    I do not have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    Elwendryll wrote: »
    I may be a bad person, but... as a khajiit main, it is satisfying to see all the forum ablaze, and its user crying in despair. I knew one day, the cats would take over Nirn.
    My adventurer pack cost like 0.8 euros, a friend was taking an order on G2A and asked if I needed anything.

    Sadly, it's no longer available on G2A/CD-Keys. It's $20 in the crown store.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on February 5, 2019 9:09AM
  • Elwendryll
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    I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    Elwendryll wrote: »
    My adventurer pack cost like 0.8 euros, a friend was taking an order on G2A and asked if I needed anything.

    Sadly, it's no longer available on GW2/CD-Keys. It's $20 in the crown store.

    That's truly sad. Hopefully they'll do a sale on it. I personally took it as soon as possible as I deemed it mandatory. So I could play Khajiit in EP and DC :3
    Actually I ended up with only AD characters, but, well, I can have argonians and dunmers.
    Edited by Elwendryll on February 5, 2019 9:04AM
    PC - EU - France - AD
    Main character: Qojikrin - Khajiit Sorcerer Tank/Stamina DD - since March 25, 2015.
    Guildmaster of Oriflamme: Focus on 4 player endgame content.
    Member of Brave Cat Trade, Panda Division and Toadhuggers.

    All 4-man trifectas - TTT, IR, GH
  • Feanor
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    I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    Buying the Imperial Edition outright in 2014 was a good investment after all...
    Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar
    All chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • Kennster007
    I do not have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    Yeah I want to change my wood elf to a Breton now, and I can't. Why can't I change my race AND alliance? I mean, I don't really care which faction I'm in, so why would I pay for the freedom of any race, any alliance? Ugh
  • validifyedneb18_ESO
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    I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    You can ONLY race change within your faction if you do not own the "Any Race, Any Alliance" upgrade.

    The poll is to get a feel for the amount of people who actually own this upgrade.

    Edit: The Adventurer's Pack costs 1900, I'd ask that ZOS please put this pack on sale if it isn't already, along with your intention for race/name change tokens to go on sale. Please do this regardless of how many people already have the upgrade (seems to be pretty high for forum users so far, but this demographic and sample size doesn't necessarily represent the wider player base.).

    Just a reminder that even if you own Any Race Any Alliance, you still can't use a race change to swap alliances, it just opens freedom when selecting a new race.

    I have gone on the record to say I think everyone should get AR/AL at this point, and preferably the alliances system be removed from character creation and relegated to the character signing up for an alliance as they enter cyrodiil.

    Too many new players find themselves unable to PVP with their friends because their characters where from another alliance simply because they didnt know to check.
    Edited by validifyedneb18_ESO on March 8, 2019 2:03PM
    EU: Magden, Magknight, Stamsorc(*2), Magsorc
    NA: Magplar, Magden, PotatoBlade
  • NordSwordnBoard
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    I have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    I bought an extra copy of the vanilla game to get it. $10 -$15. This was before Morrowind, so they must be rare by now.
    Fear is the Mindkiller
  • emily3989
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    Not sure why you not understanding how races and factions work is an issue. Been that way since launch.
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  • MashmalloMan
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    I do not have "Any Race, Any Alliance" unlocked.
    emily3989 wrote: »
    Not sure why you not understanding how races and factions work is an issue. Been that way since launch.

    This is a necro and it was posted in the heat of people screaming on the forums about racial changes, everyone was so concerned about race changing with 1 token, no one was talking about how you could only race change from 3 options without an optional upgrade (any race, any alliance). After playing for 3 years, it never became a problem or something I even considered till the PTS.

    So to clarify, I do understand, not everyone did or was aware at the time of this post however. Many older players have the any race, any alliance upgrade because it came with pre-ordering the game, but we have had 2 major re-release/chapters at this point that have probably brought in many newer players that don't have the upgrade. The poll isn't exactly accurate to the larger demographic of the game.

    @MashmalloMan - PC NA

    PC Beta - 2400+ CP
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