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Points Given For Healing in BGs, Not Enough for Healers

  • Iskiab
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    It also seems like on the forums no one ever dies or needs healing, unless they just started a whine/nerf x thread, it’s so odd because in the hundreds of BGs I’ve done there has only been maybe 10 where a player ended it with no deaths.

    PvForums a new trend?
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    Condemned and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
  • Koensol
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    Koensol wrote: »
    >3 good DPS
    >keeping them alive

    If they are good, they can keep themselves alive because they can't rely on a healer being present every single BG.
    And that's why you don't get points. They can kill enemies and defend themselves, you can't kill anyone and you can't defend yourself, so as a healer you are a liability in smallscale. Time they spend defending you could be spent on killing a high value target on the enemy team instead.
    You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

    No. I has a point. He just hasn't seen the unkillable turtle groups at their worst yet. He doesn't know how unkillable a group can become.
    No, he doesn't have a point, because he assumes healers need to be defended and are otherwise helpless. This is a fallacy. A good BG group sticks together no matter what, so in a group with 1 healer/support bot and 3 dd, the 3 dd can actually focus more on killing the opposing team rather than having to heal themself constantly, or kite into LoS. They will be able to close kills that they wouldn't have been able to without a healer. In high MMR if against a premade, both are necesary. Healers are needed to reduce pressure on a group and help the group recover from/mitigate ult dumps, and the dd are needed to close the kills and put enough pressure on the opposing team.

    In open world it is a bit different, because mobility plays a bigger role there and healers only start becoming usefull at a certain group size. But we are talking BGs here.
  • weedgenius
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    As a NB healer what would I use? Entropy and ice blockade? I could use funnel health but I’d have to cast it 200 times per BG to do that much damage.
    RIP Refreshing path damage :cry:
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  • Iskiab
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    Yup, refreshing or twisting path is the problem with magblades. Magblades are tuned damagewise around using twisting path, nb healers are supposed to use it as a core skill.

    This is what’s killing the class in PvP. Without twisting path magblades do less damage then other classes, refreshing path is also too small an area to be a useful heal. Skill needs a rework (but that’s a different topic).
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    Condemned and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
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