Why doesn't StamDK have a stamina morph of Lava Whip?
BadShogun
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I don't understand the reasoning behind some classes having spammable class abilities for any play style while others don't. And, the classes that don't have spammable class abilities do not perform as well as those that do.
Stam DK could use a spammable class ability that's MADE for it. NOT spamming venomous claw, which is a dot!
Stam DK could use a spammable class ability that's MADE for it. NOT spamming venomous claw, which is a dot!
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Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This post should be in the Combat & Character Mechanics, @BadShogun. It's not a planned change that's coming out in Update 21 ... currently on PTS.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »This post should be in the Combat & Character Mechanics, @BadShogun. It's not a planned change that's coming out in Update 21 ... currently on PTS.
It should be planned. :'(CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »This post should be in the Combat & Character Mechanics, @BadShogun. It's not a planned change that's coming out in Update 21 ... currently on PTS.
It should be planned. :'(
Agreed. DKs are weirdly devoid of spammables... or stamina variants of abilities, for that matter.3 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Have you tried using claw as a spammable? Works great, I actually use burning embers as a spammable on my magdk instead of whip because it is is better0 -
SaintSubwayy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Have you tried using claw as a spammable? Works great, I actually use burning embers as a spammable on my magdk instead of whip because it is is better
Dmg wise its horrible tho
Taking my avg parses: Avg whip 20k avg ember 10k
Sustain is better thats true, and the healing from embers can also be nice when needed, but overall whip>embers
Stamina whip wise, i see the peoblem that both magicka whips are widely used in pve or pvp, and changeing one of them will effect either pve or pvp...id rather see stonefist changed to be a spammable tbh.PC EU
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Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭SaintSubwayy wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Have you tried using claw as a spammable? Works great, I actually use burning embers as a spammable on my magdk instead of whip because it is is better
Dmg wise its horrible tho
Taking my avg parses: Avg whip 20k avg ember 10k
Sustain is better thats true, and the healing from embers can also be nice when needed, but overall whip>embers
Stamina whip wise, i see the peoblem that both magicka whips are widely used in pve or pvp, and changeing one of them will effect either pve or pvp...id rather see stonefist changed to be a spammable tbh.
Have you seen this- https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/373570/claw-of-the-mad-god-stamina-dk-pve-dd-build-50k-selfbuffed-murkmire-pts/p1. So the difference between their damage when spammed is 2.6%, but the claw costs 1/3 of what crushing weapon costs
And this- https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/450659/burning-embers-an-alternative-mdk-spammable.In a static scenario, Burning Embers actually performed very similarly to Molten Whip. With a DPS difference of about .8% in my testing, I would say that Burning Embers is certainly a viable alternative although not necessarily better.
I understand you want the game changed, stonefist is garbage and I would like to see a use for it as well but using the game as we have it right now, you can use claw/embers(which I love using as a spammable, much better then whip and made playing my magdk fun again) as a spammable just fine.
Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on January 28, 2019 7:22AM0 -
SaintSubwayy✭✭✭✭✭
✭well thats not what I expierienced, but tbh I also pulled 54k in the parse i took the stats from, and run a very meta setup.
I dont say embers is a bad spammable, the healing is very nice thats a big point in favor of embers.
on stamina, ...well I'd personally rather spam Rending slashes and lets Claw run, since its dmg is increased with each tick...but thats personal prefference ... sustain on claw is just easy af, since its prob the lowest cost skill in the entire game at this point.
How do you fiqure that I want the game changed? ^^Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
I understand you want the game changed, stonefist is garbage and I would like to see a use for it as well but using the game as we have it right now, you can use claw/embers(which I love using as a spammable, much better then whip and made playing my magdk fun again) as a spammable just fine.
All I'm saying is that whip is widely used in both PVP and PVE, in the respective Morphs...so changeing it would end up pissing of one or the other off xD
and Stonefist is not widely used, so more open for changes i asume.
Edited by SaintSubwayy on January 28, 2019 7:37AMPC EU
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✭✭✭✭SaintSubwayy wrote: »well thats not what I expierienced, but tbh I also pulled 54k in the parse i took the stats from, and run a very meta setup.
I dont say embers is a bad spammable, the healing is very nice thats a big point in favor of embers.
on stamina, ...well I'd personally rather spam Rending slashes and lets Claw run, since its dmg is increased with each tick...but thats personal prefference ... sustain on claw is just easy af, since its prob the lowest cost skill in the entire game at this point.
How do you fiqure that I want the game changed? ^^Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
I understand you want the game changed, stonefist is garbage and I would like to see a use for it as well but using the game as we have it right now, you can use claw/embers(which I love using as a spammable, much better then whip and made playing my magdk fun again) as a spammable just fine.
All I'm saying is that whip is widely used in both PVP and PVE, in the respective Morphs...so changeing it would end up pissing of one or the other off xD
and Stonefist is not widely used, so more open for changes i asume.
You want a Stam class spammable on dk. The game currently does not have this. To get this, you need to change the game. Simple?0 -
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SaintSubwayy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why stamina sorc doesnt have a morph for crystal fragment?
well cause he has no room for it on his bar anyways?
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
You want a Stam class spammable on dk. The game currently does not have this. To get this, you need to change the game. Simple?
well jeah kinda, i mean if they'd fix Rapid Strikes or make Crushing Weapon better then we wouldnt need a class spammable...but they arent that great atm ...so Class Spammable for stamDK is still a topicPC EU
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