PvP Is In Crises Mode

Galarthor · January 2019

Vapirko wrote: »

Galarthor wrote: »

Defilted wrote: »

Everything was faster until the call for speed nerfs. Now we are here in the slow meta.

Maybe for stamina builds. Those speed nerfs were warranted. Unfortunately, ZOS has failed so far to address the snare/root insanity that has been plaguing PvP for years now. But I am glad to see that stam builds finally are sitting in the same boat as magicka builds and will thus no longer defend this crap and instead support getting away from this perma-snaring and perma-rooting.

Yeah, no ones saying that speed didn’t need to be balanced. But we got hit twice when they not only nerfed speed pots, and snare immunity and sources of major expedition from class skills, but then they also introduce permafrost and time stop. It’s like a double or triple nerf. In true ZOS fashion they go completely from one side to the other. I’m not sure what “crap” you feel I’m defending. Getttig away from the perma snare/root/tank meta is exactly what I’m after. Aside from shuffle need a small cost reduction or immunity boost, everything else is fine.

Well they finally brought Stamina closer to Magicka builds, though stamina builds still have the upperhand. BUT I agree, it's a mess and needs addressing. And I am glad that Stamina builds finally woke up and now support the call for changes!

Galarthor · January 2019

Waffennacht wrote: »

I saw nothing in the PTS that even slows down this tanky AF meta

Well, I doubt we will ever see something in that regard. Heavy Armor meta is actually a foolproof meta, that allows even those completely untalented players to feel like kings in pvp.

There have been countless good suggestion in the forum how to balanced the 3 armor types, and yet ZOS did nothing except, in true politician fashion, saying that they are "aware of it" and are "looking into it". It has been years now and they haven't done anything even though the changes needed to balance the 3 armor types are rather easy to implement.

So in short: ZOS doesn't want to change it. Heavy Armor meta maximizes the amount of people that are happy b/c it can be used by the hardcore player, the casual, and the mentally handicapped.

It's just sad, b/c if the armor types were balanced then you could still use heavy armor but also the other 2 types, but that requires work and costs money, so ZOS won't do it.

Jabassa · January 2019

I 100% agree! PVP is a turd right now, no other word for it and it's very sad. I'm willing to bet ZOS would actually listen to us and finally devote the necessary resources to PVP if we all were to just cancel our ESO plus subs

Strider__Roshin · January 2019

Waffennacht wrote: »

I saw nothing in the PTS that even slows down this tanky AF meta

That's because PvE is their focus; not PvP.

barshemm · January 2019

Pevey wrote: »

barshemm wrote: »

Calboy wrote: »

I LOVE the snare era. Watching stamina monkeys zip around with speeds buffs was such a terrible time for pvp. Let's get rid of major expedition once and for all I say.

I'm down with that if we can also get rid of snares.

I will say once again, all this PVP whining will result in a light attack versus light attack meta. Just take all the skills away. Will you be happy then?

If ZOS is trying to please the PVPers, it is a losing proposition because the game will never be balanced in the minds of some complainers until the game is completely stripped of everything remotely interesting.

Well since a snare is on just about every skill, you're probably right.

Aurielle · January 2019

StarOfElyon wrote: »

I recently switched to one heavy chest plate (purple) and one medium pants (gold). I had more resistance than before but lost some magicka regen. Even if I had more, I was being drained quickly. We were solos up against at least one organized group. Maybe the other team was organized too but they weren't as strong. Somehow we kept it close but it wasn't fun at all. It was annoying. Watch the ridiculousness begin at around 00:53.

StarOfElyon wrote: »

This is MADNESS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyxWUVTYkPc

It’s hard to tell what’s going on in that video due to your zoom level. How on earth do you play like that?!

Anyway, agreed 100% with the OP. The only reason why I still play ESO is PVP, but even that has lost its fun appeal... BGs are just stupid now. Get rid of the MMR and/or separate solo/premade groups! It’s not that hard! Most matches I play these days involve premades with ice wardens and tether tanks, or pet class premades that typically hide behind 10-12 pets. Performance in Cyrodiil on console is atrocious, so... I don’t much see the point of logging in anymore.

dsalter · January 2019

gepe87 wrote: »

Rapids nerf will change a bit, but ball group will find a way to get through, we have enough proof from past. Nerfs may be introduced, bit there always a cancer build aroud. We had several situations like this in the past like magdk vamps or destro ulti train.

From all sets introduced, only vicious death and earthgore are a problem (vicious+prox.det was introduced to counter zerglings, but had this side effect)

Unable to split between premade and pugs queue remains BG main problem.

Point Blank AoE's are a blobs best friend. heres a reason blobs dont spam inevitable detonation or the ranged impulse.