Hurricane is a dot. But honestly I think they need to rethink this before it goes live. We already know how sets like this end up performing. They just nerfed axe bleeds by 12% and then they pass out a set that buffs bleeds and other dots by 15%. Okay, so we’re nerfing something that was presumably OP, and then giving it back even more OP? I’m real confused. I guarantee this set willl be the next nerf target if it goes live.
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Hurricane is a dot. But honestly I think they need to rethink this before it goes live. We already know how sets like this end up performing. They just nerfed axe bleeds by 12% and then they pass out a set that buffs bleeds and other dots by 15%. Okay, so we’re nerfing something that was presumably OP, and then giving it back even more OP? I’m real confused. I guarantee this set willl be the next nerf target if it goes live.
Not a fan of the set simply based on what the 5th bonus does as bleeds is already prevalent in PvP and this further removes any form of unique play in PvE content as it's always the same DW/Bow with DoT and nothing else.
@VapirkoHurricane is a dot. But honestly I think they need to rethink this before it goes live. We already know how sets like this end up performing. They just nerfed axe bleeds by 12% and then they pass out a set that buffs bleeds and other dots by 15%. Okay, so we’re nerfing something that was presumably OP, and then giving it back even more OP? I’m real confused. I guarantee this set willl be the next nerf target if it goes live.
You have to keep in mind that bleed builds are most likely already using the blood drinker set, which boosts bleeds by 20%. In order to get those 14%, the need to give up 5 item slots. If you have a dot build that also uses other dots among bleeds, you'd most likely be switching Blood drinker for this set and not your other 5piece set. Similarly, if you have a build centered around bleeds only, you'd be better off keeping your savage werewolf with blood drinker as getting and extra source of bleed most likely outperforms +14% of what you have without it.
Poison etc have more counter play than bleed, so I don't mind those getting a boost. Might even make werewolfs nervous about something.
Hurricane is a dot. But honestly I think they need to rethink this before it goes live. We already know how sets like this end up performing. They just nerfed axe bleeds by 12% and then they pass out a set that buffs bleeds and other dots by 15%. Okay, so we’re nerfing something that was presumably OP, and then giving it back even more OP? I’m real confused. I guarantee this set willl be the next nerf target if it goes live.
Valkyn_Eltrys wrote: »Deadly strikes + swamp raider + morag tong (someone else using) sounds stronk on paper.
Anyone care to test?
SaintSubwayy wrote: »Valkyn_Eltrys wrote: »Deadly strikes + swamp raider + morag tong (someone else using) sounds stronk on paper.
Anyone care to test?
is this combo meant for PVE or PVP?
For PVE I would recommend for a stamDK Deadly Strike, Relequen, vMA DW and vMA Bow.
the Crit you'll loose from dropping AY, can be compensated a Bit by using 2 vMA Daggers, and beeing a Kahjit.
It is sustainable as a Kahijt, since I tested deadly strike on a kahjit on pts, with group support sustain gets even easier.
Trancestor wrote: »This set wont be any better than blooddrinker and that set is already not worth running, the only class with enough dots that could benefit from this is stamdk and stamdk has wayyyyy better sets like fury that will give its dots almost as much dmg but also buff all its other damage and healing. Nothing to worry about here.
Could be really strong in pve tho.
TankHealz2015 wrote: »Anybody know where this set is?
I cannot find the set in my inventory (on PTS)
Maybe is in wrong box?
Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »Trancestor wrote: »This set wont be any better than blooddrinker and that set is already not worth running, the only class with enough dots that could benefit from this is stamdk and stamdk has wayyyyy better sets like fury that will give its dots almost as much dmg but also buff all its other damage and healing. Nothing to worry about here.
Could be really strong in pve tho.
If Stamplars jabs counts as a DoT. It could be very good for them
Ragnarock41 wrote: »This is basically a lesser blooddrinker as far as bleed setups are concerned.
If you're fine with blooddrinker then complaining about this set can only be explained as bias.. Yes this will be better than BT on stamDk and stamplar and thats onky fair considering stamblade and stamsorc go almost purely bleeds when they want a dot build.
Since the 5th piece doesn't give you any healing it won't be as problematic as some other sets but surely it can be combined with seventh on Dk or ravager on stamplar for a very solid duel/bg build.
Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »Hurricane is a dot. But honestly I think they need to rethink this before it goes live. We already know how sets like this end up performing. They just nerfed axe bleeds by 12% and then they pass out a set that buffs bleeds and other dots by 15%. Okay, so we’re nerfing something that was presumably OP, and then giving it back even more OP? I’m real confused. I guarantee this set willl be the next nerf target if it goes live.
I'm just curious from a stam dps standpoint. But you may be right. May end up being broken in PvP
Valkyn_Eltrys wrote: »Deadly strikes + swamp raider + morag tong (someone else using) sounds stronk on paper.
Anyone care to test?
How does deadly strike perform in comparison with the Morag Tong set?
I use the Viper set on my stam dk and poison weapon enchanments. Will the 14% dot damage increase be highter than the 10% bonus to all poison damages?
We'll see about that. There are parses showing that Berserking Warrior is still pretty strong. Also there's Scavenging Demise, which might be a good set for one Stam DPS in the raid group. When you have a Stam DK anyway, DK would be the perfect fit for that set, wouldn't it? You can reach very high uptimes on minor vulnerability.SaintSubwayy wrote: »Deadly strike may become BIS on stamDK's in PVE ,...in PVP with the reworked Curseeater I dont see stamDK to be in a great spot overall tbh
Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »Not a fan of the set simply based on what the 5th bonus does as bleeds is already prevalent in PvP and this further removes any form of unique play in PvE content as it's always the same DW/Bow with DoT and nothing else.
I mean the meta has always been dw and bow. Gotta get used to it bud. Besides the 2, 3 and 4 pc bonuses are still good
Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »Not a fan of the set simply based on what the 5th bonus does as bleeds is already prevalent in PvP and this further removes any form of unique play in PvE content as it's always the same DW/Bow with DoT and nothing else.
I mean the meta has always been dw and bow. Gotta get used to it bud. Besides the 2, 3 and 4 pc bonuses are still good
bleedmeta was master's axes dw+2h. 4 sourses of bleed with at the same time most relevant access to healing or snare immunity or..a lot of options. and u could use bloodrinker for bleedboost or another options.
dw+bow - no, srry, only vs new players.
John_Falstaff wrote: »Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »Not a fan of the set simply based on what the 5th bonus does as bleeds is already prevalent in PvP and this further removes any form of unique play in PvE content as it's always the same DW/Bow with DoT and nothing else.
I mean the meta has always been dw and bow. Gotta get used to it bud. Besides the 2, 3 and 4 pc bonuses are still good
bleedmeta was master's axes dw+2h. 4 sourses of bleed with at the same time most relevant access to healing or snare immunity or..a lot of options. and u could use bloodrinker for bleedboost or another options.
dw+bow - no, srry, only vs new players.
Context suggests that @Ohhgrizyyy likely meant PvE damage meta.
I'm eager to test Deadly Strikes, but seems like they're not in PTS boxes, yup.
Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »Has anyone tested this set on a Stam Dk or possibly even a Stam Sorc yet? Only reason I'm not too sure on Stam Sorc is because I'm not sure if Hurricane counts as a DoT or DD.
Deadly Strike 2 – Adds 129 Weapon Damage 3 – Adds 833 Weapon Critical 4 – Adds 129 Weapon Damage 5 – Increase the damage your Physical, Bleed, Poison, and Disease damage over time abilities do by 14%.