rage607 wrote: »

I also have an imperial dk tank.
I am very angry about the new changes.

I also can not understand their business tactics.
As someone else already said. Imperials are behind a paywall.
Of course they should not be the best race ever, because of that...But being the worst race will not motivate anyone to buy the imperial upgrade.

I was very excited for the new updates and the chapter but in the last few days ZOS managed to just frustrate me.

I don't think Imperial should be behind a paywall to begin with. I think this was a complaint very early on by many reviewers.

Would it be a bad idea to just make them the jack of all trades? Give them 2k health, magic, and stamina?

My main is imperial and I play it because I like it all this min maxing is so stupid.

But it just makes no sense that imperials are invading the khajit land and imtroducing necromancer but at the same time we have zero access to magic passives? Lol makes no sense to me.

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

Would it be a bad idea to just make them the jack of all trades? Give them 2k health, magic, and stamina?

My main is imperial and I play it because I like it all this min maxing is so stupid.

But it just makes no sense that imperials are invading the khajit land and imtroducing necromancer but at the same time we have zero access to magic passives? Lol makes no sense to me.

That would make them 1,65 + 1,82 + 1,82 = 5,29, so we would need something of 1,2 set value to bring them in line with altmer 6,5 value.

So let's look what altmer has...
2000 magicka = 1,82
258 Spell Dam. = 2
That means that their spell recharge is 2,68... this passive gives 95 stat per second... normal mag/stam recovery on set is 129 per 2 seconds, therefore it's 1,5 of set bonus value. That means that the funny 5% damage reduction while casting is 1,18.

So in this case the last part to your suggestion could be something like 150 stat recovery on top of that bonus magicka which would be very nice

what's concerning is if we evaluate imperial like this
Right now imperial on pts:
2000 hp =1,65
2000 stam = 1,82
together 3,49
which means that Red Diamond passive is worth of 3 Set Bonuses, which we could potentially break into Block&Bash cost = 1 and Healing on direct dmg part = 2... isn't that Unbelievable? And it's even hard to evaluate that because there's a 15% chance... like you can heal every second or never in one minute... but with some imagination it may corellate to 260 HP recovery...

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

satanio wrote: »

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

Would it be a bad idea to just make them the jack of all trades? Give them 2k health, magic, and stamina?

My main is imperial and I play it because I like it all this min maxing is so stupid.

But it just makes no sense that imperials are invading the khajit land and imtroducing necromancer but at the same time we have zero access to magic passives? Lol makes no sense to me.

That would make them 1,65 + 1,82 + 1,82 = 5,29, so we would need something of 1,2 set value to bring them in line with altmer 6,5 value.

So let's look what altmer has...
2000 magicka = 1,82
258 Spell Dam. = 2
That means that their spell recharge is 2,68... this passive gives 95 stat per second... normal mag/stam recovery on set is 129 per 2 seconds, therefore it's 1,5 of set bonus value. That means that the funny 5% damage reduction while casting is 1,18.

So in this case the last part to your suggestion could be something like 150 stat recovery on top of that bonus magicka which would be very nice

what's concerning is if we evaluate imperial like this
Right now imperial on pts:
2000 hp =1,65
2000 stam = 1,82
together 3,49
which means that Red Diamond passive is worth of 3 Set Bonuses, which we could potentially break into Block&Bash cost = 1 and Healing on direct dmg part = 2... isn't that Unbelievable? And it's even hard to evaluate that because there's a 15% chance... like you can heal every second or never in one minute... but with some imagination it may corellate to 260 HP recovery...

Yeah I don't like the whole proc chance. I absolutely hate proc stuff it takes skill out of the game.

Once again Orc outdoes Imperial and now has a better version of red diamond as well. The only reason to be Imperial is to be human (and Nord does it better).

Imperials really need a buff, the red diamond passive is bad.

+ they should be free behind an achievement.

I’m very disappointed with the Imperial changes. Imperials were never the best Stamina DPS class, but they were always decent. These racial changes are turning them into bottom of the barrel by far.

My main was originally a Bosmer, but when I realized that Imperial was good at Stamina DPS and they first released race changes, I racechanged & name changed him, and created all of my subsequent characters in a theme: Stamina are Imperial, Magicka are Breton, and they’re mixed brothers from House Valerius of Nibenay. I love my characters. If you look on Reddit, I’m proud of my main and his accomplishments, and I love my characters in general (e.g https://i.redd.it/10ewyqfapy621.png). They’re not the best, but they’re good and can complete the vast majority of content. These changes are completely gutting them. I either race change the characters I love and have loved for years so that I can continue to play them in the content I enjoy, or I don’t change them and possibly reach a point where I am no longer capable of completing that content because I can’t hit hard enough. The disappointment in that is beyond words.

Defilted wrote: »

So on your current character how much health are you getting from the 12% bonus? After the change you are going to get a flat 2K. How far off is what you are getting now compared to the 2K?

The 12% increase if from your base health. Not after all of the armor and things are added.

I suspect the difference will not be a as big as people are speculating. I have seen no one post PTS testing math. I don't have access to the PTS so I have to wait and see.

I'd they specced as health tanks they lots about 5-6k health. It's pretty drastic as I lost 4k stam from 48k

RABIDxWOLVERINE wrote: »

I only really play my imperial stam dk dps what do these changes mean for me? My initial impression was underwhelmed but IDK I don't really dig into this stuff too in depth for it to really make me understand if the changes are good bad or indifferent. Based on the posts it doesn't look good

Probably lost a couple k in extra health making it pointless to play as one as a DD.