no CP increase = no late game
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TheCabbageborn✭✭✭TheCabbageborn wrote: »
A bit presumptuous don’t you think. They absolutly never said they were removing CP or vertical progresssion. So maybe I should be saying bye to you?
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✭✭✭Zerowaffles wrote: »Zerowaffles wrote: »Onebitsoul wrote: »Zerowaffles wrote: »Zerowaffles wrote: »Soundles1990 wrote: »Well then dont increase the CP Cap but i need something else to get my character stronger!
Numbers don't make you stronger skill does
CP should be all around removed or reworked
Of course you miss the obvious, the most skilled players will have the most CP, there is a relationship. Also CP does in fact make you stronger otherwise no one would be making such a fuss about it, there would be no power creep if what you said was true.
The number of high skilled players with no CP is very small indeed so what exactly is your point?
You could have the best CP setup in the world and the best build in the world but if you don't know how to use any of it none of it matters and a cp300 player that knows what they are doing can easily destroy you.
I've seen it many times happen from people who make second accounts just to go around making CP capped PvPers salty
Extremes do not make for a good argument, of course everything you stated is true but it is a case of special pleading. Fact is the generic ESO player with max CP is more likely to be skilled than the player with No CP or low CP. In general they will have had more playetime, ergo more expereince, ergo more likely to have learned about thier class.
By the way, in your argument about alt accounts you neglect the fact that they have indeed already earned a ton of CP, they just chose to play a low level character to hide it. This actually supports my argument, not yours.
Why does it matter if someone has earned a lot of CP on another account? The point is that on the alt they don't have any of that and can still play just was well.
Becuase they learned to play... they earned CP as they did so in fact they are high CP players just on an account with low CP. I stated earlier high CP is a relationship to skill, they have skill and they have an account with high CP, they are chosing to play an account with low CP. So you can not try to imply in your current argument that a player with no CP ( meaning they have not earned any, implying that have not played much) are likely to be just as skilled as a high CP player.
High CP has nothing to do with skill my dude. Skill differs from person to person and someone that wants to get better at the game will get better at the game even if they aren't CP capped and will easily out perform casual players.
Just go to Cyrodiil today and you'll see zergs of CP capped players running around like mindless blobs chasing around 1 person, those people choose not to get better. In the duelling PvP communities tho you'll see plenty of new 400cp players that are actively trying to get better by the day and manage to kill the majority of players.
Although yes a skilled CP capped player will kill a skilled low CP capped player that is a given
but that doesn't mean CP makes you better neither does game time If all you do in the game is PvE and Cyrodiil zerging
Stop being so obtuse. You achieved skill in this game by playing it, most likely alot. As you played you earned CP again you probably have a good amount. It is a simple premise, a person with high CP is more likely to be skilled. That is all I am saying. Yet you argue otherwise?
Please do so then, tell me how a person achieves high skill without a good amount of playtime and not earn CP?
Guilds, Duelling, Coaching :^)
Guilds will not give skill, they will give advice and knowledge
Dueling will provide some skill, just how many players do you think have mastered a class doing nothing but duels O.o ?
Coaching again imparts knowledge not skill, skill is the ability to perform, that comes from performing.2 -
TheCabbageborn✭✭✭Skwor you're not going to quit dude so stop pretendingwhen a problem comes along u must fus it3
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✭✭✭TheCabbageborn wrote: »TheCabbageborn wrote: »
A bit presumptuous don’t you think. They absolutly never said they were removing CP or vertical progresssion. So maybe I should be saying bye to you?
oh thank goodness you're back
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✭✭✭Soundles1990 wrote: »So why should i continue playing this game ? I already have achieved everything. There is nothing to do now to progress.
The slight CP increase every 3 months is a pretty sad reason to play.
Granted, man have cleared the latest arena on vet and all the vet trials but we will get a new vet trial, a real trial, and probably an arena type addition so you will have more achievements to work on.
The BiS grind is an even sadder reason.
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✭✭✭TheCabbageborn wrote: »Skwor you're not going to quit dude so stop pretending
Troll away little one 😂
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Zerowaffles✭✭✭Zerowaffles wrote: »Zerowaffles wrote: »Onebitsoul wrote: »Zerowaffles wrote: »Zerowaffles wrote: »Soundles1990 wrote: »Well then dont increase the CP Cap but i need something else to get my character stronger!
Numbers don't make you stronger skill does
CP should be all around removed or reworked
Of course you miss the obvious, the most skilled players will have the most CP, there is a relationship. Also CP does in fact make you stronger otherwise no one would be making such a fuss about it, there would be no power creep if what you said was true.
The number of high skilled players with no CP is very small indeed so what exactly is your point?
You could have the best CP setup in the world and the best build in the world but if you don't know how to use any of it none of it matters and a cp300 player that knows what they are doing can easily destroy you.
I've seen it many times happen from people who make second accounts just to go around making CP capped PvPers salty
Extremes do not make for a good argument, of course everything you stated is true but it is a case of special pleading. Fact is the generic ESO player with max CP is more likely to be skilled than the player with No CP or low CP. In general they will have had more playetime, ergo more expereince, ergo more likely to have learned about thier class.
By the way, in your argument about alt accounts you neglect the fact that they have indeed already earned a ton of CP, they just chose to play a low level character to hide it. This actually supports my argument, not yours.
Why does it matter if someone has earned a lot of CP on another account? The point is that on the alt they don't have any of that and can still play just was well.
Becuase they learned to play... they earned CP as they did so in fact they are high CP players just on an account with low CP. I stated earlier high CP is a relationship to skill, they have skill and they have an account with high CP, they are chosing to play an account with low CP. So you can not try to imply in your current argument that a player with no CP ( meaning they have not earned any, implying that have not played much) are likely to be just as skilled as a high CP player.
High CP has nothing to do with skill my dude. Skill differs from person to person and someone that wants to get better at the game will get better at the game even if they aren't CP capped and will easily out perform casual players.
Just go to Cyrodiil today and you'll see zergs of CP capped players running around like mindless blobs chasing around 1 person, those people choose not to get better. In the duelling PvP communities tho you'll see plenty of new 400cp players that are actively trying to get better by the day and manage to kill the majority of players.
Although yes a skilled CP capped player will kill a skilled low CP capped player that is a given
but that doesn't mean CP makes you better neither does game time If all you do in the game is PvE and Cyrodiil zerging
Stop being so obtuse. You achieved skill in this game by playing it, most likely alot. As you played you earned CP again you probably have a good amount. It is a simple premise, a person with high CP is more likely to be skilled. That is all I am saying. Yet you argue otherwise?
Please do so then, tell me how a person achieves high skill without a good amount of playtime and not earn CP?
Guilds, Duelling, Coaching :^)
Guilds will not give skill, they will give advice and knowledge
Dueling will provide some skill, just how many players do you think have mastered a class doing nothing but duels O.o ?
Coaching again imparts knowledge not skill, skill is the ability to perform, that comes from performing.
Yes they are given advice and knowledge that casual players don't have so they'll turn that advice to skill through duelling and eventually they'll master their class. That's whats gonna happen to someone who actively tries to get better at the game and wants to be skillful
If you compare a casual player that plays the game everyday but has no idea about game mechanics other than PvE rotations is CP capped and tries to PvP then obviously the player who was coached is more skillful.
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TheCabbageborn✭✭✭I hope you have fun with The Elder Scrolls Online: Elsweyrwhen a problem comes along u must fus it1
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✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Brutusmax1mus wrote: »Sylvermynx wrote: »Well.... I play MMOs (as well as SPMR games) for that "glorified novel". And I have the money to do so. My experience in this situation is far more important to me (as a long time RP gamer - since the pen and paper games in the mid-70s) than your need to progress to ever higher levels.
However, I do have to say that I really prefer the WoW and RIFT version of progression, which is higher levels rather than some totally abstruse thing like CP. I can always get my mind around levels. So far, CP is leaving me saying "LOLWUT???"
Nothing about vertical progression effects the rp story of this game. At all. The game is painfully easy.
It's not "painfully easy" for me. I have at minimum 2000 ms lag. That means NOTHING is easy.
Yeah, I understand that my connection means I'm at a disadvantage - however, when I quit WoW in 2013 (using the same connect I have now, though now my speed is about twice what it was then), I didn't have the issues there that I have in this game.
It's a bummer. I LOVE TES. And truthfully I love ESO. But this game stresses the only connection I have, to the point where nothing is easy.
You want to see how "not easy" it is for me? Be happy to have you drop by sometime. You might want to wait until June or July.... and I don't have AC so you might not be real comfortable. But I can get you a hotel room an 80 mile round trip from my house. Or if you want to see some really great stage performances (Shakespeare or modern playwrights) you can stay the 140 mile round trip.
I'll feed you well. And you can watch me deal with satellite lag in the back of beyond.
Now, I do have to say - I deal with the lag because I love the game. But everyone just blows off those of us with marginal situations/connections - who love the game and do our best to play anyway. Not to mention that I more than pay my way (just me, don't know about everyone else).
As for vert progression - I actually have always preferred that. Then again, I don't have an optimal game situation, so perhaps if I did, that horizontal progression might be fine. Somehow.... considering all the games I've played since 1985.... I kind of think my personal answer there is "nope".
Look, i'll be honest. Your situation adding false difficulty to the game should not be considered at all when balancing a games difficulty or progression. Im not trying to be rude.1 -
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✭✭✭Zerowaffles wrote: »Zerowaffles wrote: »Zerowaffles wrote: »Onebitsoul wrote: »Zerowaffles wrote: »Zerowaffles wrote: »Soundles1990 wrote: »Well then dont increase the CP Cap but i need something else to get my character stronger!
Numbers don't make you stronger skill does
CP should be all around removed or reworked
Of course you miss the obvious, the most skilled players will have the most CP, there is a relationship. Also CP does in fact make you stronger otherwise no one would be making such a fuss about it, there would be no power creep if what you said was true.
The number of high skilled players with no CP is very small indeed so what exactly is your point?
You could have the best CP setup in the world and the best build in the world but if you don't know how to use any of it none of it matters and a cp300 player that knows what they are doing can easily destroy you.
I've seen it many times happen from people who make second accounts just to go around making CP capped PvPers salty
Extremes do not make for a good argument, of course everything you stated is true but it is a case of special pleading. Fact is the generic ESO player with max CP is more likely to be skilled than the player with No CP or low CP. In general they will have had more playetime, ergo more expereince, ergo more likely to have learned about thier class.
By the way, in your argument about alt accounts you neglect the fact that they have indeed already earned a ton of CP, they just chose to play a low level character to hide it. This actually supports my argument, not yours.
Why does it matter if someone has earned a lot of CP on another account? The point is that on the alt they don't have any of that and can still play just was well.
Becuase they learned to play... they earned CP as they did so in fact they are high CP players just on an account with low CP. I stated earlier high CP is a relationship to skill, they have skill and they have an account with high CP, they are chosing to play an account with low CP. So you can not try to imply in your current argument that a player with no CP ( meaning they have not earned any, implying that have not played much) are likely to be just as skilled as a high CP player.
High CP has nothing to do with skill my dude. Skill differs from person to person and someone that wants to get better at the game will get better at the game even if they aren't CP capped and will easily out perform casual players.
Just go to Cyrodiil today and you'll see zergs of CP capped players running around like mindless blobs chasing around 1 person, those people choose not to get better. In the duelling PvP communities tho you'll see plenty of new 400cp players that are actively trying to get better by the day and manage to kill the majority of players.
Although yes a skilled CP capped player will kill a skilled low CP capped player that is a given
but that doesn't mean CP makes you better neither does game time If all you do in the game is PvE and Cyrodiil zerging
Stop being so obtuse. You achieved skill in this game by playing it, most likely alot. As you played you earned CP again you probably have a good amount. It is a simple premise, a person with high CP is more likely to be skilled. That is all I am saying. Yet you argue otherwise?
Please do so then, tell me how a person achieves high skill without a good amount of playtime and not earn CP?
Guilds, Duelling, Coaching :^)
Guilds will not give skill, they will give advice and knowledge
Dueling will provide some skill, just how many players do you think have mastered a class doing nothing but duels O.o ?
Coaching again imparts knowledge not skill, skill is the ability to perform, that comes from performing.
Yes they are given advice and knowledge that casual players don't have so they'll turn that advice to skill through duelling and eventually they'll master their class. That's whats gonna happen to someone who actively tries to get better at the game and wants to be skillful
If you compare a casual player that plays the game everyday but has no idea about game mechanics other than PvE rotations is CP capped and tries to PvP then obviously the player who was coached is more skillful.
Again with the special pleading. A Special case can alwys be made as the exception and I have not argued against the exception.
It is simple. Randomly pick 24 CP capped players and pit them pvp against 24 randomly selected level 50 no CP players. Tell me what do you expect the outcome will be?1 -
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✭30 more cp is progression to you?
Most of us are way beyond the cap already lol no point to keep increasing it
This^
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✭✭✭Soundles1990 wrote: »Well then dont increase the CP Cap but i need something else to get my character stronger!
Well, you could stop bathing, and become stronger smelling.
This is a feature in RDR2.
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✭✭Ever try to get that new gear? Ever try to beat that tough new content? There’s more to progression than levels. And if you’ve invested much into this game, you’re probably past or near the next cap anyway, which means you aren’t progressing in levels regardless.
Why yes... I have tried... but... oh wait... I'm not allowed to run in Vet Cloudrest with my guilds... I can't get over 30k dps... I'm disabled and with using my PS3 controller to play, am unable to reliably animation cancel due to latency. So no perfected Relquens for me that might help boost my stamina, above the un-perfected.
Have I tried the tough new content.... well... normals yes... They got boring real quick as they are extremely easy for my skill level. But.. again, because I'm unable to animation cancel reliably in a rotation, I can't get over 30k dps, and therefore not allowed into the new Vet trials with my guilds.
Each of those 30points every update would at least allow for a small improvement that compensated for my shortcomings in dps due to my disabiity.
I've said this in another thread. The issue was CP was never the Power Creep outright, it was the fact that ZOS did not reinstate SOFT CAPS on our stats AND on the amount of DPS we can achieve in this game.
THAT is what shoehorned DPS in this game!!! THAT is what killed hybrid builds!!!
ZOS NEEDS to reinstate SOFT CAPS!!!
That way, once players reach a certain level of achievement, they are forced to spend points in something else, or not spend them at all, while those of us who are stuck in the Middle Compentency group of players, that ZOS keeps nerfing with idiotic decisions (trying to lower the celing), can actually continue to spend CP points where they are needed to raise our stats to compensate for our shortcomings, so that we can then be included in Vet Trails we were left out of before.
Eventually, every player will reach the same soft cap for stats, but there will be much, much more diversity in builds, and the types of armour we can use.
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✭✭✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »
It is the very definition of progression. Now as to the quality well that is another subject, but it is indeed a form of progression.
A single piece of BiS gear is arguably even less a form of progression but yet people here seem to like that better than CP.
Then we have those who argue the storytelliing is a form of progression, how is that better?
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Zerowaffles✭✭✭Zerowaffles wrote: »Zerowaffles wrote: »Zerowaffles wrote: »Onebitsoul wrote: »Zerowaffles wrote: »Zerowaffles wrote: »Soundles1990 wrote: »Well then dont increase the CP Cap but i need something else to get my character stronger!
Numbers don't make you stronger skill does
CP should be all around removed or reworked
Of course you miss the obvious, the most skilled players will have the most CP, there is a relationship. Also CP does in fact make you stronger otherwise no one would be making such a fuss about it, there would be no power creep if what you said was true.
The number of high skilled players with no CP is very small indeed so what exactly is your point?
You could have the best CP setup in the world and the best build in the world but if you don't know how to use any of it none of it matters and a cp300 player that knows what they are doing can easily destroy you.
I've seen it many times happen from people who make second accounts just to go around making CP capped PvPers salty
Extremes do not make for a good argument, of course everything you stated is true but it is a case of special pleading. Fact is the generic ESO player with max CP is more likely to be skilled than the player with No CP or low CP. In general they will have had more playetime, ergo more expereince, ergo more likely to have learned about thier class.
By the way, in your argument about alt accounts you neglect the fact that they have indeed already earned a ton of CP, they just chose to play a low level character to hide it. This actually supports my argument, not yours.
Why does it matter if someone has earned a lot of CP on another account? The point is that on the alt they don't have any of that and can still play just was well.
Becuase they learned to play... they earned CP as they did so in fact they are high CP players just on an account with low CP. I stated earlier high CP is a relationship to skill, they have skill and they have an account with high CP, they are chosing to play an account with low CP. So you can not try to imply in your current argument that a player with no CP ( meaning they have not earned any, implying that have not played much) are likely to be just as skilled as a high CP player.
High CP has nothing to do with skill my dude. Skill differs from person to person and someone that wants to get better at the game will get better at the game even if they aren't CP capped and will easily out perform casual players.
Just go to Cyrodiil today and you'll see zergs of CP capped players running around like mindless blobs chasing around 1 person, those people choose not to get better. In the duelling PvP communities tho you'll see plenty of new 400cp players that are actively trying to get better by the day and manage to kill the majority of players.
Although yes a skilled CP capped player will kill a skilled low CP capped player that is a given
but that doesn't mean CP makes you better neither does game time If all you do in the game is PvE and Cyrodiil zerging
Stop being so obtuse. You achieved skill in this game by playing it, most likely alot. As you played you earned CP again you probably have a good amount. It is a simple premise, a person with high CP is more likely to be skilled. That is all I am saying. Yet you argue otherwise?
Please do so then, tell me how a person achieves high skill without a good amount of playtime and not earn CP?
Guilds, Duelling, Coaching :^)
Guilds will not give skill, they will give advice and knowledge
Dueling will provide some skill, just how many players do you think have mastered a class doing nothing but duels O.o ?
Coaching again imparts knowledge not skill, skill is the ability to perform, that comes from performing.
Yes they are given advice and knowledge that casual players don't have so they'll turn that advice to skill through duelling and eventually they'll master their class. That's whats gonna happen to someone who actively tries to get better at the game and wants to be skillful
If you compare a casual player that plays the game everyday but has no idea about game mechanics other than PvE rotations is CP capped and tries to PvP then obviously the player who was coached is more skillful.
Again with the special pleading. A Special case can alwys be made as the exception and I have not argued against the exception.
It is simple. Randomly pick 24 CP capped players and pit them pvp against 24 randomly selected level 50 no CP players. Tell me what do you expect the outcome will be?
I never argued about no cp players and yes the outcome is obvious but my point was that when a player actively wants to get better and looks up ways on how to get better he will perform better than a casual cp capped player that's why I talked about skill out performing sheer numbers.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Soundles1990 wrote: »So why should i continue playing this game ? I already have achieved everything. There is nothing to do now to progress.
The slight CP increase every 3 months is a pretty sad reason to play.
Granted, man have cleared the latest arena on vet and all the vet trials but we will get a new vet trial, a real trial, and probably an arena type addition so you will have more achievements to work on.
The BiS grind is an even sadder reason.
My reason is enjoying playing the game with people I enjoy playing the game with. My point is if this brief change where we will not gain more CP is such a big driving force in getting enjoyment out of the game then why is OP even playing the game.
I know plenty of players well past the CP cap, like myself, and we do not even give it any thought when we earn a point. It is not why we play the game.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭j.greenmanb16_ESO wrote: »The game has far more to offer than progression in levels. Just sayin.
What exactly would that be?
Actual new content?
No serious endgame player gave a *** about CP progression. In fact, most disliked the system because it caused power creep.
Endgame = completing new veteran content or engaging in PvP. It was never about CP progression.Edited by MLGProPlayer on January 16, 2019 4:16AM5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Soundles1990 wrote: »So why should i continue playing this game ? I already have achieved everything. There is nothing to do now to progress.
All you care about is level progression in a game that focuses heavily on story and exploration?
There is another name for that type of entertainment, it is a bit arcane so maybe you have not heard of it.
It is called a book. They are much cheaper than ESO and for storytelling most tend to be far superior.
A picture is worth a thousand words and ESO gives me 30 pictures a second.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭✭✭✭✭Soundles1990 wrote: »So why should i continue playing this game ? I already have achieved everything. There is nothing to do now to progress.
All you care about is level progression in a game that focuses heavily on story and exploration?
There is another name for that type of entertainment, it is a bit arcane so maybe you have not heard of it.
It is called a book. They are much cheaper than ESO and for storytelling most tend to be far superior.
There is another type of "entertainment" for counting numbers. It's called an abacus.2 -
_Salty_✭✭✭✭✭They are just stalling progress till they figure a way to make CP valuable without creating major power creep. So many tears shed for nothing.Psn l---Salty---l
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✭✭✭✭✭too much CP - game is too easy, make it harder. fix the power creep! Zos says, no more CP increases and we are reevaluating powercreep - no, i want my character to keep getting stronger, what the heck ZoS
which one is it????
personaly I'm glad they are not increasing CP anymore, this was starting to get ridiculous. I'm hoping instead for possibly new skill lines etc to chase down.dirty worthless casual.
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TimeDazzler✭✭✭✭✭"I only play this game because I get 30 extra CP points every 3 months". LMAO yea okayPC NA
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✭✭✭✭✭soniku4ikblis wrote: »Power-creep is a real thing. It has a historical record in many MMO's.
Power creep is a real thing, it is also a life thing.
Power creep needs to occur in a healthy game, the issue really is how much, not that it exists. The trick is to keep vert prog and minimize power creep WHILE at the same time allowing older content to become trivial to the player that has progressed.
Basically you mimick life without the hassles or lifetime effort required to master a skill. That is what makes a game fun for most and continually engaging.
This is pure nonsense. You don't need to mimic "mastering a skill" in a game. The whole point of video games is to master skills.
Completing veteran content is skill mastery. Being the best in PvP is skill mastery. You don't need levels.
I have poured thousands of hours into games like Counter-Strike and Overwatch. They have no levels. You know where the fun lies? In SKILL MASTERY! In trying to actually get better...
If you need a number to make you feel like you're getting better at a game, then maybe you need a new hobby. You're completely missing the point of video games.
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✭✭✭✭✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »
It is the very definition of progression. Now as to the quality well that is another subject, but it is indeed a form of progression.
A single piece of BiS gear is arguably even less a form of progression but yet people here seem to like that better than CP.
Then we have those who argue the storytelliing is a form of progression, how is that better?
Numbers changing on a screen have nothing to do with progression. All new content is designed to be completed at the current level cap. Therefore, numerical progression is an illusion.Edited by MLGProPlayer on January 16, 2019 4:38AM5 -
Daedric_NB_187✭✭✭✭✭Soooo..... You're saying that the only thing keeping you in this game is the 30 CP's they allow you to use every three months? Yeah. Maybe it is time for you to find another game.5
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✭✭✭✭✭too much CP - game is too easy, make it harder. fix the power creep! Zos says, no more CP increases and we are reevaluating powercreep - no, i want my character to keep getting stronger, what the heck ZoS
which one is it????
personaly I'm glad they are not increasing CP anymore, this was starting to get ridiculous. I'm hoping instead for possibly new skill lines etc to chase down.
Endgame players don't want CP progression because it trivializes the game's content via power creep. Most casuals don't want CP progression because it's a chore to reach max level already.
Only a small minority of players care about this.Edited by MLGProPlayer on January 16, 2019 4:24AM3 -
starlizard70ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭30 more cp is progression to you?
Most of us are way beyond the cap already lol no point to keep increasing it
I completely agree with you. At my current cp level, I could stop playing for at least two years and would still be over the cp cap at the 120 cp per year increase."We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."0 -
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✭✭The most boring games are where everything scales to you, where every fight is life or death. I’m talking about PvE. You want every time you aggro a wolf or a mudcrab that it’s a life or death fight. Or Minotaurs. You need that sense of progression or what is all the time and work you put in for. Some games are great only for the story but ESO ain’t. The stories ain’t that good.
CP is less important in PvP where builds and skill are ultimately the determining outcome of most fights. Yet, CP is earned and should be utilized.
Power creep is not a problem because ZOS just makes the dlc content harder. We already expect a normal dlc dungeon to be harder than a vet non dlc dungeon.
What ZOS should do us expand the cp trees and give us more places to stick cp. all of these new spots don’t necessarily have to suddenly make you op in combat. Just capping it is the lazy way out.
Over time your character should grow.5
