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How Much Extra Would You Pay (Per Month) to Have Perfect Cyrodiil Performance?

danthemann5
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Exactly what it says on the tin. How much money is ZOS leaving on the table by not addressing PvP performance issues?
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How Much Extra Would You Pay (Per Month) to Have Perfect Cyrodiil Performance? 224 votes

$0 - I'm good with the PvP performance as it is.
49%
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>$0 - $5 per month
15%
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$5 - $10 per month
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$11 - 15 per month
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$16 - $20 per month
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$21 - $30 per month
4%
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more?
4%
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  • Emphatic_Static
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    $16 - $20 per month
    I'd pay an extra $20 - maybe more if it were perfect.
    Static

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  • Crixus8000
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    $11 - 15 per month
    Hard to say, because I still wouldn't enjoy it much without balance. But I would if balance was at least decent with good performance.
    Edited by Crixus8000 on January 8, 2019 11:31PM
  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    $11 - 15 per month
    id be ok with a30$/month sub if the WHOLE GAME WOULD BE PERFECT and I mean FLAWLESS.
  • jainiadral
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    $0 - I'm good with the PvP performance as it is.
    Don't personally care, I don't PvP. But it seems like decent performance should be included by default to any player who purchases the DLC/ ESO+. I'd think that should be a baseline expectation for any game purchase-- you know, that you can play it :/
  • xMovingTarget
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    What about nothing.? It should work in the first place. I pay sub every month. More should never be required. And it's honestly dumb to even want to pay more for it.
    People pay already enough for this service. If anything they should make it cheaper for the players until they fix it.
    Edited by xMovingTarget on January 8, 2019 11:33PM
  • Emphatic_Static
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    $16 - $20 per month
    There is an arguement that people are presenting that we shouldn't have to pay more for it - we just just have the performance.

    While I don't disagree, I believe the issue lies in their promises made to the shareholders to keep pumping out 4 releases per year because that's how they see a return on their investment. They need to know that a return is possible through investing resources on something other than pve content. As any company would - they follow the money - and once something works they stick with that.

    They have never dedicated a competent team to flesh out the performance because they have been told they are not allowed to stray from what they know works. Shareholders hold the future of every game. If investors don't get a return on their dollar, the game dies. Sad but true.

    If there were a guarantee that performance would increase revenue, they would have a team on it the next day. We are caught in this limbo between what the team would LIKE to do and what they are ALLOWED to do. The only thing they are allowed to do is pump out content because it's the only thing that has been proven to create long term revenue.

    This discussion is only meant to shed some insight into the kind of money "left on the table" as Dan has put it. I think ZOS would be shocked to know how many end game pvp players would happily invest monetarily if the performance was a result of our investment.

    If you come in here and have your opinions that start with "I am a pve player, BUT..." This poll wasn't meant for you, we know your answer - $0. The question is directed at end game pvp players. How many of us would throw our wallets at ZOS for guaranteed performance?

    How many players would come BACK to ESO once they heard the lag was gone? I would bet a LOT!
    Static

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  • Morgul667
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    $5 - $10 per month
    Should be free

    But i could go up to 10 dollars
  • redspecter23
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    $0 because perfect performance shouldn't be monetized.

    If it were just a matter of throwing some money at the problem, I'd like to think they would have explored that option by now.
    Edited by redspecter23 on January 8, 2019 11:57PM
  • Leeched
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    I already pay for ESO+ why should I pay even more to enjoy the only part of the game I actually like? What kind of poll is this? :frowning:
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  • Latios
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    Nothing. Cyrodill server performance is horrible as it is, and I shouldn’t have to pay for it. It’s part of the base game.

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  • paulychan
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    $0 - I'm good with the PvP performance as it is.
    0
    Paying for performance is unacceptable.
  • jainiadral
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    $0 - I'm good with the PvP performance as it is.
    There is an arguement that people are presenting that we shouldn't have to pay more for it - we just just have the performance.

    While I don't disagree, I believe the issue lies in their promises made to the shareholders to keep pumping out 4 releases per year because that's how they see a return on their investment. They need to know that a return is possible through investing resources on something other than pve content. As any company would - they follow the money - and once something works they stick with that.

    They have never dedicated a competent team to flesh out the performance because they have been told they are not allowed to stray from what they know works. Shareholders hold the future of every game. If investors don't get a return on their dollar, the game dies. Sad but true.

    If there were a guarantee that performance would increase revenue, they would have a team on it the next day. We are caught in this limbo between what the team would LIKE to do and what they are ALLOWED to do. The only thing they are allowed to do is pump out content because it's the only thing that has been proven to create long term revenue.

    This discussion is only meant to shed some insight into the kind of money "left on the table" as Dan has put it. I think ZOS would be shocked to know how many end game pvp players would happily invest monetarily if the performance was a result of our investment.

    If you come in here and have your opinions that start with "I am a pve player, BUT..." This poll wasn't meant for you, we know your answer - $0. The question is directed at end game pvp players. How many of us would throw our wallets at ZOS for guaranteed performance?

    How many players would come BACK to ESO once they heard the lag was gone? I would bet a LOT!

    Ok, this PvE player who thinks you guys should have acceptable performance as a default will hereby exit this thread. Enjoy your lag :p
  • danthemann5
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    $11 - 15 per month
    I agree, paying for a product and then paying more for that product to work is unacceptable, or at least very undesirable. But unfortunately, that is not reality, at least not ESO's reality. There are people who believe in the product and are willing to pay more for the product they believe in. I have been reliably informed that "ZOS only pays attention to money", so I am attempting to communicate on their terms by illustrating that there is money on the table so to speak.
    Edited by danthemann5 on January 9, 2019 12:15AM
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    Greetings! We've closed this thread due to its non-constructive nature.

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  • Rezzinu
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    >$0 - $5 per month
    What about nothing.? It should work in the first place. I pay sub every month. More should never be required. And it's honestly dumb to even want to pay more for it.
    People pay already enough for this service. If anything they should make it cheaper for the players until they fix it.

    100% agree! Right now we're paying for a service that isn't performing as advertised.
  • Elsonso
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    $0 - I'm good with the PvP performance as it is.
    ... should be no extra charge.
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  • Draxys
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    Zero. Even if I don’t sub, I’ve already paid for a product that should run better than it does right now.
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  • Zathras
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    Exactly what it says on the tin. How much money is ZOS leaving on the table by not addressing PvP performance issues?

    Zero.

    Why pay them extra to run their product like it was advertised.

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  • Siohwenoeht
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    To truly improve performance they'd need to rework ability particle effects, disable costumes and armor visuals (these all add to server load), possibly remove all aoe's, Dot's and hot's (all increase server calculations), and revert changes to anti-cheating protection and ddos protection for pvp.

    So if you can be happy with standard armor skins, direct damage only abilities and flying meteor or dawnbreaker showers with the occasional denial of service because someone wanted lulz, this may be what it takes.
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  • MaxwellC
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    >$0 - $5 per month
    0 because I paid for a working product, not a broken one.
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  • SanSan
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    $0 - I'm good with the PvP performance as it is.
    nothing. balance the game and make it more fun.
    that's all i ask.
  • Salvas_Aren
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    $11 - 15 per month
    If they manage to squeeze out the due performance of that crappy code, I consider subscribing.

    Therefore, it would be 11-15 coins.
  • Savos_Saren
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    $0 extra because I've already paid for a product.


    As a matter of fact- ZOS is about to be in the negative $30/month if the game's performance doesn't show a significant increase. My wife and I will be unsubscribing soon because of lag (in both PVE and PVP), long load screens, etc.

    ZOS- many, many, many threads have popped up recently about your game's performance. It has significantly decreased over the past year. Do something about it.
    Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.

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  • xxthir13enxx
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    $70.00

    Because at this point....
    it will no longer be ESO...
    it’d a whole new game...
  • kypranb14_ESO
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    $0 - I'm good with the PvP performance as it is.
    PVP Performance is fine, if you play Battlegrounds. I gave up on Cyrodiil after switching to PC and realizing it is just as bad as it was on the original version of Xbox One. At least now I get good frames outside of Cyrodiil. lol
  • victory.immortalb16_ESO
    $0 - I'm good with the PvP performance as it is.
    I wouldn't pay extra, but would be happy if I could actually play when it's busy instead of near-constant d/cs very time I get near a battle.

    Not looking forward to the event as I'm guessing I'll spend most of my time either in the queue or getting in, running to a battle, and d/cing...
  • Savina
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    $11 - 15 per month
    I'll vote for up to another $15. But only because Dan IS the man and while I don't PvP much I'd love for my FnF's on Shor to be a bit more enjoyable with a performance boost.

    (Just for Dan's record keeping.....I actually would pay up to $50 more a month IF this perfect performance will mean MORE PEEPS!!)
  • Osteos
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    I can't vote in your poll. I would pay $0 dollars more. In my opinion they should have a perfect working product for the $15 monthly they currently receive from subs. A poor product does not deserve more profit.
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  • Sylvermynx
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    $0 - I'm good with the PvP performance as it is.
    You didn't provide an "Other" option, so I voted 0. Now, if you're talking about only charging those who pvp, that's fine. But I don't pvp, I won't ever pvp, and if I start getting charged more because those who do pvp are willing to pay more - well, I won't be playing at all. And that means I won't be subbing ESO+ on two accounts, and I won't be dropping another $300-$400 a year on crowns.
  • danthemann5
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    $11 - 15 per month
    As of the time of this writing, there is about $225 per month additional people would be willing to pay for a perfect Cyrodiil PvP experience. So what portion of the player base do the forums represent? If it's 10% (a completely made up guess) that translates into $2250 per month or $27,000 a year. Again, just a guess, but that's not an insignificant chunk of change.

    My bottom line is this: A good Cyrodiil experience SHOULD be part of the game. In reality, it is not. But it is worth tens of thousands of dollars for ZOS to get it right. That's the point I'm trying to make, people see value in Cyrodiil, and not an insignificant amount.
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  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    I'd pay whatever I was paying back when this game was a subscription, and not a mobile game tactic money cow.
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