MyKillv2.0 wrote: »

proteinexe wrote: »

So, a new class is coming out, an area we've never seen before, dragons are making a return in a relatively lore friendly way, and ESO is hitting player counts never seen before..

WHY then do we have so many people on the forums simply, and to put it bluntly, bitching.

The demographic for these whiners are all the same.. they all have; a good amount of play time in ESO, a long list of 'my PvE achievements', usually good spelling, and a serious hate for the game.

Why do you complain? There is literally no winning for ZoS with these people. They'r the ones saying the content is dry, repetitive and boring, so ZoS implement a new class, a potentially new PvP spot, a new fleshed out trial and a whole new area to the map, and then the forums become, 'why I quite so', 'a 40$ paywall for a rubbish class HA HA' etc..

It must be so *** for ZoS devs like Gena etc seeing the people who have the most experience with a 1 year anniversary tag, shitting on the game which they try and make as lively and enjoyable as possible.

Sorry for the long rant, but id love to hear your opinions, and specifically those who complain a lot.. I just wanna hear why you have such an issue in anything they do yet still put countless ours into the game..

Because it is the internet and that's what people on the internet do? Don't get me wrong, the forums are TOXIC and like in real life, the loudest are often the most misinformed.

Well put - I agree with this.

i dont think this guy pvp's, does guy pvp?

BuddyAces wrote: »

Cuz there's a metric horse manure ton of problems with this game that goes unaddressed so when all the hype is towards new stuff.....well there ya go.

would you rather the game stay in one spot and slowly become more stable.. or have new content to test, experiment and place around with?

Would you rather have a car which runs ok, or a really fast flash car which is prone to breaking down every now and then?

toxic people is toxic

BossXV wrote: »

toxic people is toxic

PVP in a shell nut

idk wrote: »

So Zos gives us plenty to be concerned with due to their management style (trying to be nice here).

Basically, this.

A lot of the complaining is coming from players being frustrated by the lack of communication from ZOS.

proteinexe wrote: »

BuddyAces wrote: »

Cuz there's a metric horse manure ton of problems with this game that goes unaddressed so when all the hype is towards new stuff.....well there ya go.

would you rather the game stay in one spot and slowly become more stable.. or have new content to test, experiment and place around with?

Would you rather have a car which runs ok, or a really fast flash car which is prone to breaking down every now and then?

I was merely pointing out why folks are mad.

Zos is short staffed. Leaves em no time to fix crap. That and the bean counters decide that it is cost effective to ignore old broken stuff and just worry about the next stuff.

proteinexe wrote: »

So, a new class is coming out, an area we've never seen before, dragons are making a return in a relatively lore friendly way, and ESO is hitting player counts never seen before..

WHY then do we have so many people on the forums simply, and to put it bluntly, bitching.

The demographic for these whiners are all the same.. they all have; a good amount of play time in ESO, a long list of 'my PvE achievements', usually good spelling, and a serious hate for the game.

Why do you complain? There is literally no winning for ZoS with these people. They'r the ones saying the content is dry, repetitive and boring, so ZoS implement a new class, a potentially new PvP spot, a new fleshed out trial and a whole new area to the map, and then the forums become, 'why I quite so', 'a 40$ paywall for a rubbish class HA HA' etc..

It must be so *** for ZoS devs like Gena etc seeing the people who have the most experience with a 1 year anniversary tag, shitting on the game which they try and make as lively and enjoyable as possible.

Sorry for the long rant, but id love to hear your opinions, and specifically those who complain a lot.. I just wanna hear why you have such an issue in anything they do yet still put countless ours into the game..

Forums exist to be a medium in which the community communicates however if you're happy with the game state you're just playing and find no use in using the forum unless you're asking a question.

However, if you are bothered by something and it angers you, you use the medium to vent your frustrations with the hopes that those whom create the game see it. It is also too some degree self gratifying to see others agree with you, even more so if something gets done.

There are a great many positive threads on the forums but they're overshadowed by the negativity as negative emotions and statements and threads are generally louder than positive threads as its easier to rally people around anger than it is about hype or joy.

i.e The loudest people are usually the minority with the exception that when all sides that usually disagree with eachother are agreeing on a topic they are upset about then and only then are they a majority.

You have to take individual negative threads with a pinch of salt. You also have to understand that its impossible to tell how many people are making different threads from alt accounts with the sole purpose to troll. Its also unclear when someones trolling, you could argue that its usually when someone says something unfathomably stupid but then sometimes...people are just that stupid and so fourth. its really dragged out.

Too cut this short; Essentially - People are more willing to make threads when they want to complain than they are to make threads when they have no complaints. The forums is their only communication medium to the devs.

xeNNNNN wrote: »

proteinexe wrote: »

So, a new class is coming out, an area we've never seen before, dragons are making a return in a relatively lore friendly way, and ESO is hitting player counts never seen before..

WHY then do we have so many people on the forums simply, and to put it bluntly, bitching.

The demographic for these whiners are all the same.. they all have; a good amount of play time in ESO, a long list of 'my PvE achievements', usually good spelling, and a serious hate for the game.

Why do you complain? There is literally no winning for ZoS with these people. They'r the ones saying the content is dry, repetitive and boring, so ZoS implement a new class, a potentially new PvP spot, a new fleshed out trial and a whole new area to the map, and then the forums become, 'why I quite so', 'a 40$ paywall for a rubbish class HA HA' etc..

It must be so *** for ZoS devs like Gena etc seeing the people who have the most experience with a 1 year anniversary tag, shitting on the game which they try and make as lively and enjoyable as possible.

Sorry for the long rant, but id love to hear your opinions, and specifically those who complain a lot.. I just wanna hear why you have such an issue in anything they do yet still put countless ours into the game..

Forums exist to be a medium in which the community communicates however if you're happy with the game state you're just playing and find no use in using the forum unless you're asking a question.

However, if you are bothered by something and it angers you, you use the medium to vent your frustrations with the hopes that those whom create the game see it. It is also too some degree self gratifying to see others agree with you, even more so if something gets done.

There are a great many positive threads on the forums but they're overshadowed by the negativity as negative emotions and statements and threads are generally louder than positive threads as its easier to rally people around anger than it is about hype or joy.

i.e The loudest people are usually the minority with the exception that when all sides that usually disagree with eachother are agreeing on a topic they are upset about then and only then are they a majority.

You have to take individual negative threads with a pinch of salt. You also have to understand that its impossible to tell how many people are making different threads from alt accounts with the sole purpose to troll. Its also unclear when someones trolling, you could argue that its usually when someone says something unfathomably stupid but then sometimes...people are just that stupid and so fourth. its really dragged out.

Too cut this short; Essentially - People are more willing to make threads when they want to complain than they are to make threads when they have no complaints. The forums is their only communication medium to the devs.

This is very true - I understand that forums are to complain. No one goes to the forums with 'Im having fun on this new Magden PvP build' (you do get some cases) and the reason is because, when they'r enjoying the game, they'r playing it.

You make a good point here, and although I already knew it in the back of my mind, you made it clear cut and understandable.

BuddyAces wrote: »

Hahahahahahaha if you really think selling dlcs are going to give them money to fix servers. Haha haha they get WORSE every passing expansion.

True.. but eventually (hopefully) a big update will be expanding their servers and having privately owned ones instead of having to hire.

This should be the official salty about salty people thread. In all seriousness though, I agree with the OP.

When I come to the forums it’s to see if anything new has been posted as was the case with Elsweyr the other day. That was the first thread in hundreds I have seen over the past few months that actually gave me pause. The unending complaining I typically see I just skim over.

However, even in that post people were people complaining about Necromancy being OP and I don’t understand how in holy hell that anyone could claim that as an objective truth. We have literally seen nothing about the class so I don’t how it would be any better or worse than any other class they have introduced, especially since we have seen enemy NPC’s use what you would consider Necromantic abilities.

Like others said, I think people just like to complain. We live in a toxic society and culture and I don’t mean just America but the whole world. Complaining sells, it generates viewership/following and is a completely reinforced behavior by the way the same toxic dialogue about any given topic is constantly parroted back and forth ad nausem between the same loud obnoxious people which leads to a false numbers fallacy over anything you can think under the sun and more. Hell, there’s even a number of articles on how complaining is healthy so I don’t really ever see there being an end to toxic fandom and complaining in general. In the end you just got to shut it all off.

After playing since launch and seeing the pvp performance not only not get better but noticably worsen I think people have a right to complain especially when they've invested in hundreds of dollars and hours. It's not unreasonable for people to want a playable game and it's not unreasonable to be angry or just frustrated by the seemingly lack of care Zos is giving the issue.

For me personally the lag has gotten to the point where I can not enjoy the game and have quit. I know a lot of other people who have done the same. That is just a fact. I can't even complain about balance decisions because I can not accurately test them due to how badly the game is performing. I can handle the low fps in big fights even with the latest hardware I can't handle being unable to use my skills for sometimes 5+ seconds.

Meesha1170 wrote: »

This should be the official salty about salty people thread. In all seriousness though, I agree with the OP.

When I come to the forums it’s to see if anything new has been posted as was the case with Elsweyr the other day. That was the first thread in hundreds I have seen over the past few months that actually gave me pause. The unending complaining I typically see I just skim over.

However, even in that post people were people complaining about Necromancy being OP and I don’t understand how in holy hell that anyone could claim that as an objective truth. We have literally seen nothing about the class so I don’t how it would be any better or worse than any other class they have introduced, especially since we have seen enemy NPC’s use what you would consider Necromantic abilities.

Like others said, I think people just like to complain. We live in a toxic society and culture and I don’t mean just America but the whole world. Complaining sells, it generates viewership/following and is a completely reinforced behavior by the way the same toxic dialogue about any given topic is constantly parroted back and forth ad nausem between the same loud obnoxious people which leads to a false numbers fallacy over anything you can think under the sun and more. Hell, there’s even a number of articles on how complaining is healthy so I don’t really ever see there being an end to toxic fandom and complaining in general. In the end you just got to shut it all off.

I agree, and thank you - at least some minds think alike x