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Streak!! :D
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Leave bolt escape/morphs alonedwemer_paleologist wrote: »remove Both the damage and the stunn and let them bolt escape all they want.
A Stamblade would say this.3 -
Trancestor✭✭✭✭✭Leave bolt escape/morphs aloneTheres idiots who want to nerf everything that kills them, and theres idiots who want to buff already greatly performing skills for their main classes which they deem should be even stronger, both idiots have obvious l2p issues and i facepalm when the latter laughs at the former.Edited by Trancestor on January 3, 2019 8:29AM2 -
TheKingofSass✭✭✭✭Remove increase cost on bolt escape and morphsAs a NB I can spam cloak whenever I want. So I think it's fair that the streak cost should be removed as well. Cost increase on any skill is just ridiculous all together. People are just too lazy to counter it."Remember, darkness does not always equate to evil, just as light does not always bring good."
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fullheartcontainer✭✭✭✭✭OtherMe as a templar watching a sorc streak even once away from me. it needs no buffs. It's fine as is.
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fullheartcontainer✭✭✭✭✭OtherTheKingofSass wrote: »As a NB I can spam cloak whenever I want. So I think it's fair that the streak cost should be removed as well. Cost increase on any skill is just ridiculous all together. People are just too lazy to counter it.
While this is being mentioned, I'd like to put in my idea that cloak should be treated like streak and given increasing costs if it's spammed1 -
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✭✭✭Leave bolt escape/morphs aloneOreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »People actually want it back the way it was.
Every single fight a Sorc was losing.....Streak spam and gone.
Let’s not go back to that, thx.
So exactly like fighting a NB today but with cloak?
Kinda, not really. Depends on the Nightblade. I can pull them out fairly easily with most classes.
Stam Sorc is the funniest. NBs scurry like rats, desperately trying to cloak through hurricane.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Remove increase cost on bolt escape and morphsdwemer_paleologist wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »Tan9oSuccka wrote: »People actually want it back the way it was.
Every single fight a Sorc was losing.....Streak spam and gone.
Let’s not go back to that, thx.
So exactly like fighting a NB today but with cloak?
if you remove the damage and the knockdown from streak then yes it would be like cloak.
The comment was about the ability for a sorc/NB to reset a fight or escape at will. Back in the day, sorcs could admittedly do that for the most part, but they also had monster 20 second shields and a host of other tools that have now been gutted, which helped as well. In the current meta, streak is a joke of an escape tool. You will never get away from anyone with a gap closer. The damage from streak is laughable. Admittedly, the stun (not a knockdown) is pretty strong, but its perhaps the most difficult stun to use effectively in combat.
In the current meta, cloak is the most OP skill in PVP, and yes, I play NB. It allows you to essentially reset a fight at will, far more effectively than streak ever did. It might not stun, but the dirt cheap ultimate you cast when you reengage certainly does. Haha4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Remove increase cost on bolt escape and morphsTrinity_Is_My_Name wrote: »Is Streak the only Ability in game that has the cost increase penalty? What about that Warden Ability allowing them to pull themselves to another Player? Should it also have the same cost increase treatment? Are there other Abilities that also have this mechanic that are not at a cost increase for instantly using them?
I think streak is the only ability with a cost penalty
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✭✭OtherStreak is actually pretty decent in Murkmire since other forms of mobility got hit hard.
I'd say it doesn't need any more explicit buffs on paper, but it should be recoded to function more reliably. No more loss of momentum, no more <1m streaks when used on upslopes, no more zipping into thin air and slowly falling when used on dpwnslopes.PC/NA — Daggerfall Covenant — BGs, Kaalgrontiid
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✭Remove increase cost on bolt escape and morphsKarmanorway wrote: »Karmanorway wrote: »LoL! NBs have voted for cost increase to stay, but in the thread were we are discussing cloak atm they say that they are against the cost increase treatment. Amazing the hypocrisy on these forums xD
So if cost increase stay on streak, can we finaly get the same treatment with cloak?
I play often as a NB, and i vote for removing streak cost increase. Btw, NBs dont have shields like sorcs do, so that is a really really bad comparison
noone has a f#@*ing shield anymore.... there a joke
and ya lets just ignore the disappear on command button.....
Lol ok so remove cloak then, and get 2shot by everything... Happy now?
well as a sorc im already getting 2 shot by everything so i dont really are what happens to nb
Put on armor master set on backbarEdited by Karmanorway on January 3, 2019 6:44PM0 -
Icarus42✭✭✭Reduce the time from 4 seconds to 2 seconds for increased cost, and enable directional pad while snared, I think that would be fair.Ebonheart Pact - PC NA - Magicka Sorcerer0 -
Karmanorway✭✭✭✭✭
✭Remove increase cost on bolt escape and morphsdwemer_paleologist wrote: »remove Both the damage and the stunn and let them bolt escape all they want.
A Stamblade would say this.
A sniper would say that 40m range0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Remove increase cost on bolt escape and morphsThe counter to streak has always been /wave0 -
russelmmendoza✭✭✭✭✭
✭OtherIncrease -
Cost.
Distance travelled.
Duration of stun.
Damage done.
Aoe range.
Aoe damage.
Add immunity to cc.0 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As the cost of bolt escape/morphs increases, so does the distance travelledI like the first option. Would be really cool. Or a reversed first option...PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
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✭Remove increase cost on bolt escape and morphsCrixus8000 wrote: »I would prefer it to be less clunky mainly. As a stamsorc I can't spam it, so when I do use it I would like it to actually get me out of the bad situation, not make it worse. Sometimes it doesn't even do anything and I stand their and die.
The animation is very clunky though. It should be instant, and also go over terrain better, as most of the time it slows you so much that you would have been better off just walking away.
I also use ball of lightning and it can be good sometimes, and then other times it's like the projectile protection doesn't even work. I streak and someone aims a ranged skill at me right away and it lands...
The animation is horrible. It take like 5 minutes for it to go off. In a bad situation it 50/50 if it help or gets you killed. It should be more responsive.1 -
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✭Remove increase cost on bolt escape and morphsReduce the time from 4 seconds to 2 seconds for increased cost, and enable directional pad while snared, I think that would be fair.
I've been saying this for awhile. I'd also like to see it be more responsive like how cloak works. Just make it a teleport.1 -
Irylia✭✭✭✭✭
✭Remove the delay. Leave cost increase.
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Streak in use
https://youtu.be/WA50PmpZFio Edited by Irylia on January 7, 2019 8:31PM0 -
Leave bolt escape/morphs aloneIt really doesn't need any changes but anyone saying they cant keep up with it is full of nonsense every single class except for warden for some unknown reason has a spamable gap closer to stick to an enemy, be it magicka or stam if they choose to use it or not is entirely up to them. Templars have charge, Dks have chains, Nightblades have teleport strike, sorcs streak ofc, Then every stam has either charge in 2h or shield charge.0 -
Somewhere✭✭✭✭OtherStacking cost is consistent with roll dodging. That said, streak should function more consistently like a roll dodge as well. Removing the cost is just a band aid fix that doesn't necessarily get at the root of the problem:
A single cast of streak doesn't feel satisfying to use as the stun is too short and it doesn't mitigate damage. Ball of Lightning absorbs projectiles but dodging also protects you in that regard. We give up an entire skill slot for this, in a game where slots are a premium.
The skill needs to smoothly over uneven terrain at the very least.0 -
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✭Remove increase cost on bolt escape and morphsSimplest way to fix sustain in pvp.0 -
Finviuswe✭✭✭✭A lot of people keep complaining about my streak ability in PVP, and I'm not bothered by it man.
I'm perfectly balanced. Know what I'm sayin'?0 -
Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭OtherLA or HA hit made by bolting sorc removes penalty. This way sorcs could use it actively in fight while still not being able to bolt from keep to keep on one magicka tank.I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭OtherKarmanorway wrote: »LoL! NBs have voted for cost increase to stay, but in the thread were we are discussing cloak atm they say that they are against the cost increase treatment. Amazing the hypocrisy on these forums xD
So if cost increase stay on streak, can we finaly get the same treatment with cloak?
I play often as a NB, and i vote for removing streak cost increase. Btw, NBs dont have shields like sorcs do, so that is a really really bad comparison
Sorc dont got shields anymore, worst defence in the game.
LOL? Do you even PvP? I still meet sorcs with almost whole HP covered with shields...I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.1 -
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✭As the cost of bolt escape/morphs increases, so does the secondary effectsCrixus8000 wrote: »I would prefer it to be less clunky mainly. As a stamsorc I can't spam it, so when I do use it I would like it to actually get me out of the bad situation, not make it worse. Sometimes it doesn't even do anything and I stand their and die.
The animation is very clunky though. It should be instant, and also go over terrain better, as most of the time it slows you so much that you would have been better off just walking away.
I also use ball of lightning and it can be good sometimes, and then other times it's like the projectile protection doesn't even work. I streak and someone aims a ranged skill at me right away and it lands...
The animation is horrible. It take like 5 minutes for it to go off. In a bad situation it 50/50 if it help or gets you killed. It should be more responsive.
Yeah it's so annoying. It happened a few times yesterday where I was outnumbered so I pressed streak but then just died because it takes so long. If I had just dodge rolled instead then I would have survived. It should be instant since it's so damn costly, moves over terrain horribly and doesn't even go that far.
But honestly the skill should just get a fix for now. Make it instant and make it move over terrain properly instead of just getting stuck or slowing you down. That would help so much.
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