Khivas_Carrick wrote: »Edited for spelling errors and I added on some extra stuff, particularly at the end.
That's my honest suggestions to any Devs watching on how to make 2H truly viable and competitive with DW.
@ZOS_GinaBruno
I hope you're the ZoS person to tag for this sort of thing, it's been awhile.
EDIT*
Btw, 2H is actually viable for PvE DPS, it just isn't better than DW for the Meta. The changes proposed are just to close the gap and give choices for endgame meta as opposed to "DW DW DW!"
ochsinator wrote: »Khivas_Carrick wrote: »Edited for spelling errors and I added on some extra stuff, particularly at the end.
That's my honest suggestions to any Devs watching on how to make 2H truly viable and competitive with DW.
@ZOS_GinaBruno
I hope you're the ZoS person to tag for this sort of thing, it's been awhile.
EDIT*
Btw, 2H is actually viable for PvE DPS, it just isn't better than DW for the Meta. The changes proposed are just to close the gap and give choices for endgame meta as opposed to "DW DW DW!"
Yes please this guy makes sense
Khivas_Carrick wrote: »ochsinator wrote: »Khivas_Carrick wrote: »Edited for spelling errors and I added on some extra stuff, particularly at the end.
That's my honest suggestions to any Devs watching on how to make 2H truly viable and competitive with DW.
@ZOS_GinaBruno
I hope you're the ZoS person to tag for this sort of thing, it's been awhile.
EDIT*
Btw, 2H is actually viable for PvE DPS, it just isn't better than DW for the Meta. The changes proposed are just to close the gap and give choices for endgame meta as opposed to "DW DW DW!"
Yes please this guy makes sense
I mean, if you say so
Cage_Lizardman wrote: »I pug vet dlc regularly with a 2h, it's not harder than with meta dw gear. They are perfectly viable for 95% of content, even many of the harder things.
If you buff single target dps on 2h then you're going to have to nerf other things about them, which just ends up making them more similar to dw, which is boring.
The meta nerds are always going to go for the best choice even if the difference is 0.5%, and anything less is always going to be "unviable" to them. The solution to that is ignoring the meta nerds, not buffs or nerfs.
GreenhaloX wrote: »I chuckle every time this kind of thread about how 2H supposedly isn't good for PvE surface on this forum. I kill anything faster with my 2H/greatsword build than DW. Oh, I have a DW toon. Sure, just one, though. It's because I like variety, but one DW is enough. The rest of my stam toons are all sporting 2H/greatsword. This is because, to me, it is more viable and damage inflicting than DW. Don't get me wrong, DW works as well. I have one, and I know how to use it. However, anyone claiming 2H isn't viable or good for PvE are extremely wrong, and ignorant is in there somewhere. Alas, to each their own, though.
How about instead of worrying about making it comparable to DW, we go another direction and try making it competitive with Bow? Make a morph of Wrecking Blow that is decent DoT that can compare with Endless Hail. Increase the DoT of Brawler to be closer Poison Injection(not AS good so the damage shield can remain). The a character could have a 2H AoE bar and a DW single target bar, instead of having to always(normally) reserve a bar for bow to be competitive as DPS.
Another possibility would be a skill that is a single-target version of Endless Hail. Ticks every half second for 10 seconds but sticks with a single target instead of being AoE.
Personally, I got tired of chasing the dragon and switched to 2h/Bow in PvE and am having a blast.
Of course, I am also a Nord nightblade in heavy Bahraha's Curse armor, so my opinion may not mean much...
GreenhaloX wrote: »I chuckle every time this kind of thread about how 2H supposedly isn't good for PvE surface on this forum. I kill anything faster with my 2H/greatsword build than DW. Oh, I have a DW toon. Sure, just one, though. It's because I like variety, but one DW is enough. The rest of my stam toons are all sporting 2H/greatsword. This is because, to me, it is more viable and damage inflicting than DW. Don't get me wrong, DW works as well. I have one, and I know how to use it. However, anyone claiming 2H isn't viable or good for PvE are extremely wrong, and ignorant is in there somewhere. Alas, to each their own, though.
It's already "viable. It's just the meta that throws people off.
single target instant spammable plz