The Gold Road Chapter – which includes the Scribing system – and Update 42 is now available to test on the PTS! You can read the latest patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/656454/
Next chapter...spellcrafting?
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✭✭✭wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »Also, Spellcrafting would re-introduce the "Schools of Magika" to ESO, like we had in previous TES titles and give the game a more Elder Scrolls feel, maybe????
Their old QuakeCon teaser for ESO's Spellcrafting system, before it was shelved, directly showed it including all of the classic Elder Scrolls schools of magic. For example, the first time you learn a variant of the Muffle spell it unlocks the Illusion skill line for your character, or learning a variant of Oakflesh would unlock the Alteration skill line.
I feel this explains why ZOS would never add a Necromancer class, as Necromancy is just a subschool of Conjuration. If they ever do add Spellcrafting to ESO, having a necromancer class would be as redundant as having an Illusionist or other school specialist added as a separate class.
But as we see from the 2017 twitter response, it hasn't been shelved completely. And the "teaser" was actual game play that Nick had coded and is part of the programming if they wish to implement it.
As far as new classes, I would give up on that. IMO I don't think that will happen.'
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✭✭✭✭✭wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »Also, Spellcrafting would re-introduce the "Schools of Magika" to ESO, like we had in previous TES titles and give the game a more Elder Scrolls feel, maybe????
Most likely yes, if the last datamine still makes it into a full release. That one added UI elements for a "spellbook", including alteration, conjuration, destruction, illusion, restoration and even mysticism.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.0 -
YamiKuruku✭✭✭✭i kinda hope it never will implemented, just imagine the balancing nightmare and class nerfs-{ PC EU }-x Khazadaar > lvl50 EP | Khajiit magblade | Main&Master Crafter | Bloodletter
CP 810+
x Mazayee-Kajthux > lvl 50 EP | Argonian Warden Healer | Godslayer
x Margaux the Undying > lvl50 DC | Breton Templar Healer | Tick-Tock Tormentor
x Fendryn Olms >lvl 50 EP | Dunmer Necro Healer | Gryphon Heart
xCassius Pavo > lvl50 EP | Imperial Necrotank | Bringer of Light
x Haj Xal >lvl50 EP | Argonian Healblade | Immortal Redeemerx Caessia>lvl 50EP | Imperial Warden Tank | Bringer of Light
x Andre Valere >lvl 50 AD | Breton SorcTank | Gryphon Heart
x S'zhan'ir >lvl 50 EP | Khajiit StamDen| Alpha Predator
x Ri'zaad Sajhan >lvl 50 EP | Khajiit DKTank | extinguisher of flames
x Mi'ra-Do>lvl 50EP | Khajiit magPlar | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor
x Minwe Elsinor>lvl 50EP | Altmer MagDen | Dovahkriid
x Velen Dres > lvl50 EP | Dunmer Magcro | Voice of Reason
x Perathea > lvl50 AD | Argonian MagDK
x Myvth >lvl 50 EP | Dunmer StamDK | Plague of Peryite
x Nephaal Telvanni > lvl50 EP | dunmer MagSorc | Voice of Reason
x Ko'haana > lvl50 AD | Khajiit Magsorc
x Zasha gra-Lashk > lvl50 EP | Orc Stamcro
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Oberstein✭✭✭rexagamemnon wrote: »So as the title states, spellcrafting, do you think it will finally be implmented in the game? I know there are previous threads about this subject but they havent been seen in a while, so i am hoping to respark the conversation.
I imagine spellcrafting will be the best way to balance the classes and skill lines. And it will finally put into practice ESO’s biggest advertisment upon launch which was play as you want. Today the class roles , whether they are dps, healer, tank, are all based around the same builds with minor tweaks. To accomplish mag dps you have to run a destro staff, stam dos its always dual wield, healers are stuck with restostaffs and occasionally destro, and tanks are always sword and board and occasionally the back bar being a two hander. Spellcrafting will help to minimize the importance of classes, and help to balance overall across the board. Having custom abilities helps to customize more and add more variation. PVP will certainly be more interesting, players will need to think more analytically as they will no longer be able to just learn and research a class to get around its abilities, players will have to always be on their feet not knowing what their opponent is capable of ability wise. As of now you see what weapon your opponent is wielding and then you take into account their class and then you know what tactics to use. With spell crafting everyone will have customizble spells they can add to their arsenal to throw off their opponent.
Please comment your thoughts, i am anxious to here everyone’s thoughts.
How should it be implemented?
Should it be implemented? If so when?
Stipulations or rules attached you think should be apart of spell crafting?
Let the Devs know
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✭✭If it happens it will be the exact opposite of what you guys and gals want.
Then we will have a sold month or more of rage posts about how zos ruined spell crafting and how everybody is quitting the game again.3 -
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✭✭✭Ask the class reps. The idea is officially dead.
Well, according to ZoS in May 2017, no it's not dead..Drakon Koryn~Oryndill, Rogue~Mage,- CP ~Doesn't matter any more
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Vanthras79✭✭✭✭✭wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »
I actually hope it comes. This game needs more spell/ability diversity--especially to compete with other online games with more spell/ability diversity.Norion Germain - Telvanni Wizard, Covenant Battle Mage, Mage's Guild Magister, Resident of Daggerfall Overlook, Lord of Tel Galen, Psijic Monk, Antiquarian, Breton Scholar, and Traveler.6 -
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✭✭✭wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »
Ask the class reps.
Ok.... Hey Class Reps! Is this still relevant? The Twitch response from 2017?
The last unofficial news on spellcrafting were new assets added earlier this year in one of the incremental Dragon Bone patches.
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/83aau2/datamining_there_appears_to_be_some_new/
Or these data mined files?
Just love a answer. Lol...
Huzzah!!
And Happy New Year ZoS!!!!
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"Not All Who Wander are Lost"
#MOREHOUSINGSLOTS“When the people that can make the company more successful are sales and marketing people, they end up running the companies. The product people get driven out of the decision making forums, and the companies forget what it means to make great products.”
_Steve Jobs (The Lost Interview)3 -
VerboseQuips✭✭✭✭✭I really hope we'll get it this year. It is, in my opinion, the last blatantly missing Elder Scrolls feature in the game. And I also hope we'll get to craft scrolls (single-use spells that could be activated from the quick slot). Plus, think of the nice furnishing we could create. Atronach dummies, atmospheric effects, floating lights, ornamental runes (or actual traps for visitors)...
(And then, if some day, down the line, they add spears, one-handed scepters, crossbows, slings and an unarmed skill line, I'd be overjoyed)My characters:Main and crafter: A Breton magicka templar named Erwann Sorril
Alt 1: A Bosmer sorcerer named Tuuneleg
Alt 2: An Imperial dragonknight named Gaius Tullius Hastifer
Alt 3: An Argonian vampire/nightblade named Observe-le-Xanmeer
Alt 4: A Nord werewolf/dragonknight named Sigurd Hurlevent
Alt 5: A Breton sorcerer named Gilian Sorril (he's Erwann's younger brother)
Alt 6: A Khajiit nightblade named Jolan-dar
Alt 7: A Nord warden named Sigurmar Hurlevent (he's Sigurd's younger brother)
Alt 8: An Altmer templar named Oioriel
Alt 9: An Argonian stamina Warden named Danse-avec-les-Rainettes
Alt 10: A Redguard templar named Neemokh af-Corelanya
Alt 11: A Nord stamina sorcerer named Olga Écoute-Vent
Alt 12: A Breton magicka Warden named Ian Sorril
Alt 13: A Dunmer magicka necromancer named Ilmoran Dren
Alt 14: An Orc stamina necromancer named Norgol gro-Borziel
Alt 15: A Nord magicka necromancer named Thorgen Givresang
Alt 16: An Imperial magicka dragonknight named Publius Valeirus Hastifer (Just call him "Valerio" - he's Gaius younger troublemaker of a brother)
Main in NA (For collaborative events): A Breton magicka nightblade named Titouan Sorril (long-lost brother of Erwann and Gilian)6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »
Ask the class reps.
You know they signed an NDA? They couldn't say anything even if they knew.
Which also makes anything they might know the opposite of "official".Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.1 -
Romestamo✭✭I'd very much like to see it. It would be lore-friendly, and if handled right, fun. I'm not bothered about balance, other than in PVP, and ZOS could deal with that by keeping crafted spells out of Cyrodiil until they see how the system develops.
I like the system described in 2014 but I'd make two changes. One, give up the engraving on stone step - mineral nodes are overloaded as it is now. Instead use vellum, made from skins, as the medium, by completing the full spell in your book. Two, make it available as soon as you join the Mages Guild, rather than waiting for the quest-line to finish. (This is because I hate the quest line and all who sail in it, but also because finding new spells is precisely what a Mages Guild should be for - why else join?)
I'd also like to see some non-combat spells, such as lock-opening, feather fall, charm, fortify skill etc that were in Oblivion.2 -
grizzledcroc✭✭✭✭Spell crafting even if it gets meta hoarded still can be fun for those who wont. Its a massive step to classic ES . If es6 doesnt have it and eso does I will forever lol.3 -
Vanthras79✭✭✭✭✭grizzledcroc wrote: »Spell crafting even if it gets meta hoarded still can be fun for those who wont. Its a massive step to classic ES . If es6 doesnt have it and eso does I will forever lol.
I was worried I was the only pro-spellcrafting person. There was soooo much salt on this topic.Norion Germain - Telvanni Wizard, Covenant Battle Mage, Mage's Guild Magister, Resident of Daggerfall Overlook, Lord of Tel Galen, Psijic Monk, Antiquarian, Breton Scholar, and Traveler.4 -
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✭✭Cannot wait for spellcrafting to come into the game.
Going to be interesting how it lands, going to be different to what we saw in 2014 me thinks. But hopefully some ice spells in there!!
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SirAxen✭✭✭✭✭Just my opinion, but if Spellcrafting were ever going to actually make it into the game it would have been with Summerset. There will probably never be another update more suited to house that new system.0 -
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I have kept the name of the class rep anonymous. This was before the NDA. Straight from discord.
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Considering it's one of the only things left to look forward to, I don't see much more reason to keep playing if the best feature is off the table. My character has always been missing something essential (some missing buff or whatever) so if I'm never going to have a chance to fully fix him up then screw it. ZOS has stupidly underestimated how much fans want this.6 -
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✭✭wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »
Ask the class reps.
You know they signed an NDA? They couldn't say anything even if they knew.
Which also makes anything they might know the opposite of "official".wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »
Ask the class reps.
Ok.... Hey Class Reps! Is this still relevant? The Twitch response from 2017?
The last unofficial news on spellcrafting were new assets added earlier this year in one of the incremental Dragon Bone patches.
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/83aau2/datamining_there_appears_to_be_some_new/
Or these data mined files?
Just love a answer. Lol...
Huzzah!!
And Happy New Year ZoS!!!!
I refer you to my above comment.SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »
Considering it's one of the only things left to look forward to, I don't see much more reason to keep playing if the best feature is off the table. My character has always been missing something essential (some missing buff or whatever) so if I'm never going to have a chance to fully fix him up then screw it. ZOS has stupidly underestimated how much fans want this.
I don’t blame you.Edited by templesus on January 2, 2019 1:48AM0 -
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✭I have kept the name of the class rep anonymous. This was before the NDA. Straight from discord.
Thank you, I appreciate the screenshot and information.
Due to the huge disappointment from last year when a lot of us were almost certain Spellcrafting was coming with Summerset, I have remained fairly pessimistic about everything Spellcrafting as a result. Every year, about this time of year, the thought that this might be the year keeps creeping in and I continually become excited, then, ultimately, let down. As much as I may want it, that doesn't mean they are ever going to give it to us and I have finally come to the conclusion that all I can do is lower my head and accept reality. It's probably not coming.
That said, I feel the vibe of what the class rep may have said in what you linked above has more of a "this is my opinion" feel to it, and may not be a "they've discussed this with us in detail" type of statement. But who knows. Again, there is a part of me that wants to hold onto even the smallest glimmer of hope that, indeed, this is actually the year it comes. After all, they've done all the other things they've talked about doing. It's all here now. Spellcrafting is all that's left undone. It's time.
See, there I go again...
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templesus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have kept the name of the class rep anonymous. This was before the NDA. Straight from discord.
Thank you, I appreciate the screenshot and information.
Due to the huge disappointment from last year when a lot of us were almost certain Spellcrafting was coming with Summerset, I have remained fairly pessimistic about everything Spellcrafting as a result. Every year, about this time of year, the thought that this might be the year keeps creeping in and I continually become excited, then, ultimately, let down. As much as I may want it, that doesn't mean they are ever going to give it to us and I have finally come to the conclusion that all I can do is lower my head and accept reality. It's probably not coming.
That said, I feel the vibe of what the class rep may have said in what you linked above has more of a "this is my opinion" feel to it, and may not be a "they've discussed this with us in detail" type of statement. But who knows. Again, there is a part of me that wants to hold onto even the smallest glimmer of hope that, indeed, this is actually the year it comes. After all, they've done all the other things they've talked about doing. It's all here now. Spellcrafting is all that's left undone. It's time.
See, there I go again...
I wish I could tell you that’s the case. However, it’s not.
Spellcrafting is dead. It’s been scrapped as a concept. It’s best if everyone just moves on.
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✭✭✭✭✭SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »
Considering it's one of the only things left to look forward to, I don't see much more reason to keep playing if the best feature is off the table. My character has always been missing something essential (some missing buff or whatever) so if I'm never going to have a chance to fully fix him up then screw it. ZOS has stupidly underestimated how much fans want this.
Agreed. If Spellcrafting doesn't make it in ESO is pretty much in maintenance mode until the servers are turned off.
The only noteworthy systems update to gameplay in 5 years has been the champion system, everything else has been entirely cosmetic (housing, outfit system) or for role-play (justice system), and even those have been added quite some time ago. Nothing that lets you play your characters in a new way or expands on their capabilities.
When ESO launched, one facet of the character system that was repeatedly praised was how easy it would be to expand, with new skill lines, morphs, etc. The skills that have been added since then could fit into a shoe box.
If there is no systems update we can look forward to anymore, from here on out, it's just one little formulaic content drop after another, with a new motif to chase and Crown Crates to buy. I don't think I'm up for that.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Vanthras79 wrote: »grizzledcroc wrote: »Spell crafting even if it gets meta hoarded still can be fun for those who wont. Its a massive step to classic ES . If es6 doesnt have it and eso does I will forever lol.
I was worried I was the only pro-spellcrafting person. There was soooo much salt on this topic.
I brought the idea up back on this week's podcast. We were doing a retrospective on the year, and we closed out the day talking about stuff we were hoping to see in 2019.1 -
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Ok so this was after summerset, looks like they tried it for summerset and dropped it.I have kept the name of the class rep anonymous. This was before the NDA. Straight from discord.
Thank you, I appreciate the screenshot and information.
Due to the huge disappointment from last year when a lot of us were almost certain Spellcrafting was coming with Summerset, I have remained fairly pessimistic about everything Spellcrafting as a result. Every year, about this time of year, the thought that this might be the year keeps creeping in and I continually become excited, then, ultimately, let down. As much as I may want it, that doesn't mean they are ever going to give it to us and I have finally come to the conclusion that all I can do is lower my head and accept reality. It's probably not coming.
That said, I feel the vibe of what the class rep may have said in what you linked above has more of a "this is my opinion" feel to it, and may not be a "they've discussed this with us in detail" type of statement. But who knows. Again, there is a part of me that wants to hold onto even the smallest glimmer of hope that, indeed, this is actually the year it comes. After all, they've done all the other things they've talked about doing. It's all here now. Spellcrafting is all that's left undone. It's time.
See, there I go again...
I wish I could tell you that’s the case. However, it’s not.
Spellcrafting is dead. It’s been scrapped as a concept. It’s best if everyone just moves on.
I thought it might be delayed to next expansion but as it looks now if it comes it will be many years ahead.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0
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