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Is Cyrodiil always that empty? Where is everyone?
StormChaser3000
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I heard a lot of complaints on forums about bad state of PvP, not enough players participating, etc.
Yesterday I decided to visit Cyrodiil and actually go deep though the map and do some quests. I picked the fist campaign I saw - 7 days one. As a beginner I decided to pick up scouting daily quest and resource capturing.
I captured a couple mines, farms and then realized that.... I haven't seen a single player during all this time. Where is everyone?
I checked the map and noticed that my beloved AD was fighting for one of the keeps. I travelled there so to find out that they we're fighting 4 stealthed nightblades, who eventually wiped the group.
That's it. No more PvP encounters at all. None came to beat my ass when I was capturing resources.
My questions are:
1. Is this a "normal" condition of the Cyrodiil or I chose the wrong day to go there (Christmas)
2. Does the campaign type(duration) affect the instance or the instance is one for all campaigns? If there are different instances, which one is more populated?
3. Do most people run nightblades in PvP these times?
4. Is the only way to get some action is to join a group and go fight some nightblades???
Edited by StormChaser3000 on December 26, 2018 2:30PM Yesterday I decided to visit Cyrodiil and actually go deep though the map and do some quests. I picked the fist campaign I saw - 7 days one. As a beginner I decided to pick up scouting daily quest and resource capturing.
I captured a couple mines, farms and then realized that.... I haven't seen a single player during all this time. Where is everyone?
I checked the map and noticed that my beloved AD was fighting for one of the keeps. I travelled there so to find out that they we're fighting 4 stealthed nightblades, who eventually wiped the group.
That's it. No more PvP encounters at all. None came to beat my ass when I was capturing resources.
My questions are:
1. Is this a "normal" condition of the Cyrodiil or I chose the wrong day to go there (Christmas)
2. Does the campaign type(duration) affect the instance or the instance is one for all campaigns? If there are different instances, which one is more populated?
3. Do most people run nightblades in PvP these times?
4. Is the only way to get some action is to join a group and go fight some nightblades???
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Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You went into Shor (or Kyne?). Those campaigns are pretty much always dead unless it is prime time. Try Vivec (Sotha, on some severs) next time if you want to see more action.
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Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Christmas my friend. Many where caught up with eggnog, carolling ( I tried) , voulnteering, family, friends, and good spirit.9 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's a combination of things that create the situation you found yourself in.
Yes, cyrodiil population is consistently lower now than at any time since launch. There are several reasons for that. And pop is usually lower on major holidays, so that was a factor too.
On every eso platform, there is only one continuously populated campaign, Vivec. The non cp and the 7 day campaigns have some die-hard supporters, but very few of them. Those servers are primarily used for emperor flipping and pve players there to farm AP. They are heaven for Nightblades because emp flippers and pve'ers are ripe for ganking.
Edited by Reverb on December 26, 2018 2:48PMBattle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche10 -
What_In_Tarnation✭✭✭✭Try using detect pots, maybe you'll find some sneaky nightblades are stalking at you.11 -
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✭A combination of Christmas and the fact that you picked the worst campaign to enter (in terms of finding people to PvP against). Shor is really just an AP grind, whereas Vivec is usually focused on actual PvP rather than trying to farm AP.2 -
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✭Oh, so there are different instances/servers. It's good to know! I'll try joining Vivec next time. I just didn't know the difference.0 -
technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What_In_Tarnation wrote: »Try using detect pots, maybe you'll find some sneaky nightblades are stalking at you.
Sounds like they were alone. No detect pots needed.Edited by technohic on December 26, 2018 3:03PM3 -
Wildberryjack✭✭✭✭✭
✭You went into Shor (or Kyne?). Those campaigns are pretty much always dead unless it is prime time. Try Vivec (Sotha, on some severs) next time if you want to see more action.
TY, Shor or Kyne are the ones I want then LOL. I suck at PvP and my main will have to go in there eventually to get the skyshards and the rare fish. That's all I'm interested in and I'd rather not be harassed constantly.The purpose of art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls. ~Pablo Picasso3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭StormChaser3000 wrote: »Oh, so there are different instances/servers. It's good to know! I'll try joining Vivec next time. I just didn't know the difference.
On the screen where you pick your campaign, to the right of each campaign name there are some indicators. The first two tell you how many friends and guildmates have assigned themselves to that campaign. The last three show the current population for each faction in that campaign. The pop indicator is is tiers, 1 bar, 2bars, 3 bars, and a lock symbol. A campaign with one bar in each category will have only a handful of players on each faction.
Pick the campaign with higher bars for more action. (Hint, It will always be the 30-day CP campaign) Happy PvP'ing.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche3 -
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(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭StormChaser3000 wrote: »I heard a lot of complaints on forums about bad state of PvP, not enough players participating, etc.
Yesterday I decided to visit Cyrodiil and actually go deep though the map and do some quests. I picked the fist campaign I saw - 7 days one. As a beginner I decided to pick up scouting daily quest and resource capturing.
I captured a couple mines, farms and then realized that.... I haven't seen a single player during all this time. Where is everyone?
I checked the map and noticed that my beloved AD was fighting for one of the keeps. I travelled there so to find out that they we're fighting 4 stealthed nightblades, who eventually wiped the group.
That's it. No more PvP encounters at all. None came to beat my ass when I was capturing resources.
My questions are:
1. Is this a "normal" condition of the Cyrodiil or I chose the wrong day to go there (Christmas)
2. Does the campaign type(duration) affect the instance or the instance is one for all campaigns? If there are different instances, which one is more populated?
3. Do most people run nightblades in PvP these times?
4. Is the only way to get some action is to join a group and go fight some nightblades???
It's pretty normal in my experience. At least as it relates to Sotha Sil. Every now and then they'll be some action. But more often than not it's pretty empty (and for good reason if you ask me).
I am surprised a few buddies running around in one of their gank groups didn't show up to kill you at your resource though. That's pretty standard behavior.Edited by Jeremy on December 26, 2018 4:31PM0 -
SkysOutThizeOut✭✭✭✭The poor guy has no idea... he’s so new, so naive... so excited for the pvp experience... little does he know it’s either a stark empty wasteland or lagfest except for when the planets align a couple times a week.5 -
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✭Glorious days when Blackwater (before Kyne) had full pop. When players actually cared about strategy and faction pride. Now its just a playground for "experienced" players who fail in Vivec and Sotha.Gepe, Dunmer MagSorc Pact Grand Overlord | Gaepe, Bosmer MagSorc Dominion General
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✭✭✭Well, it is Christmas, so i spent playing board-games with my family instead of playing computergames. I do have time to check the forums now as my kids do the dishes.
Also since the last patch, Cyrodill is to laggy for me so i rather play other multiplayer games like Battlefront/field. I hope they fix it soon(tm).٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
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✭@Jeremy
Maybe they were busy with AD group who was poking their keeps or maybe I was very quick killing defending NPCs (I was in my dps pve gear). I will never find out for sure I guess.
@SkysOutThizeOut
Haha, I just wanted to try something new. If I don't like the experience in game, I switch to a different activity (the only exception was vMA, when I hated it but kept going. :P)0 -
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✭Open world PvP has never been in a worse state as far as population than it is right now. Yes, Christmas was a factor but Cryoland has been recently a wasteland most of the day. BGs are fairly populated, wait times typically are not too terrible but Cryoland is seldom pop locked except for maybe an hour or two a day at best. So while PvP in ESO is far from dead, open world pvp is on life support. We could discuss the reasons behind the state of open world pvp but very few would argue that its ship has sailed.
Sorry to those left who started playing this game, thinking it was Dark Ages of Camelot: the Elder Scrolls edition. :'( :'(
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Rain_Greyraven✭✭✭✭✭Yes it's that empty
Not enough people want PVP as an end game mechanic.
They should have stuck with just the arena system for PVP."Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.”
― Robert E. Howard
So you want to be a game developer? Here is the best way to go about it.0 -
Sanctum74✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Rain_Greyraven wrote: »Yes it's that empty
Not enough people want PVP as an end game mechanic.
They should have stuck with just the arena system for PVP.
Actually there's quite a few people that still prefer pvp for end game. The problem is Zos has ignored the performance issues for far too long and has gotten to the point where the lag and performance is so bad it becomes unplayable even at 1-2 bars population.
It's bad enough for experienced well geared players, but for new players it must be the worst experience so it's at the point now where they can't get new players and old ones are just fed up and leaving in droves.
It's unfortunate because pvp has some of the best diversity in combat and builds mixed with taking and defending keeps makes for some exciting gameplay, but nothing we can do can make Zos care about their game or their customers.
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SkysOutThizeOut✭✭✭✭Rain_Greyraven wrote: »Yes it's that empty
Not enough people want PVP as an end game mechanic.
They should have stuck with just the arena system for PVP.
Actually there's quite a few people that still prefer pvp for end game. The problem is Zos has ignored the performance issues for far too long and has gotten to the point where the lag and performance is so bad it becomes unplayable even at 1-2 bars population.
It's bad enough for experienced well geared players, but for new players it must be the worst experience so it's at the point now where they can't get new players and old ones are just fed up and leaving in droves.
It's unfortunate because pvp has some of the best diversity in combat and builds mixed with taking and defending keeps makes for some exciting gameplay, but nothing we can do can make Zos care about their game or their customers.
He’s right. I know at least 10 people that I PvP’d with regularly who outright left the game over the last year. And an even larger who are now fairweather players that will log on to be disappointed.
What’s worse is, despite the beliefs of others, is that the game is actually the most balanced it’s been since before CWC... in my opinion. That’s an awesome thing. All they need to do now is tweak some things and improve the lag. And we are home...
But I think there were 2 major events that really hurt PvP this year:
1. The Sloadocalpyse, when they dragged their feet on implementing a fix for the set. That made a lot of my friends uninstall.
2. And the perceived lack of care with fixing lag in Cyrodiil. Though I think it’s slightly improved, its ever so incremental, and with new flagrant issues (stuck in combat bug)... it’s hard for us to notice improvement.
@StormChaser3000 pvp is the only reason I play. I think it has the best of every world. I think they really achieved something, minus the ability to support open world on the scale they and we desired. That and maintaining or increasing the pvp base.7 -
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✭All the servers dont have the population they used to but you went to the 7day campaign which doesnt have many people to begin with, typically they are used as a way to get emp quicker0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Rain_Greyraven wrote: »Yes it's that empty
Not enough people want PVP as an end game mechanic.
They should have stuck with just the arena system for PVP.
Actually there's quite a few people that still prefer pvp for end game. The problem is Zos has ignored the performance issues for far too long and has gotten to the point where the lag and performance is so bad it becomes unplayable even at 1-2 bars population.
It's bad enough for experienced well geared players, but for new players it must be the worst experience so it's at the point now where they can't get new players and old ones are just fed up and leaving in droves.
It's unfortunate because pvp has some of the best diversity in combat and builds mixed with taking and defending keeps makes for some exciting gameplay, but nothing we can do can make Zos care about their game or their customers.
This. All of this.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche3 -
SugaComa✭✭✭✭✭StormChaser3000 wrote: »I heard a lot of complaints on forums about bad state of PvP, not enough players participating, etc.
Yesterday I decided to visit Cyrodiil and actually go deep though the map and do some quests. I picked the fist campaign I saw - 7 days one. As a beginner I decided to pick up scouting daily quest and resource capturing.
I captured a couple mines, farms and then realized that.... I haven't seen a single player during all this time. Where is everyone?
I checked the map and noticed that my beloved AD was fighting for one of the keeps. I travelled there so to find out that they we're fighting 4 stealthed nightblades, who eventually wiped the group.
That's it. No more PvP encounters at all. None came to beat my ass when I was capturing resources.
My questions are:
1. Is this a "normal" condition of the Cyrodiil or I chose the wrong day to go there (Christmas)
2. Does the campaign type(duration) affect the instance or the instance is one for all campaigns? If there are different instances, which one is more populated?
3. Do most people run nightblades in PvP these times?
4. Is the only way to get some action is to join a group and go fight some nightblades???
It's Christmas ... Most people are off the Gabe fur the holidays1 -
Hexys✭✭✭✭✭
✭Christmas my friend. Many where caught up with eggnog, carolling ( I tried) , voulnteering, family, friends, and good spirit.
This has nothing to do with christmas. The 30 day cp campaign is a laggy campaign at prime, on PC EU even the 30 day no cp campaign is becoming laggy.
7-day campaigns are dead content
Astrum | Daggerfall Covenan | EU-PC
Noricum | Daggerfall Covenant | EU-PC
Spectral | Ebonheart Pact | EU-PC
DC | AR 50 | Hexys - Magicka Sorcerer (07-08-2016)
AD | AR 50 | Hexposed - Magicka Sorcerer (27-04-2017)
EP | AR 50 | Darth Hexys - Magicka Sorcerer (05-08-2018)
EP | AR 50 | Grand Overload Hexys - Magicka Sorcerer (03-03-2021)
EP | AR 39 | Legendary Hexys - Magicka Sorcerer
EP | AR 43 | Hexyles - Stamina Nightblade
EP | AR 49 | Hexys - Stamina Nightblade (23-02-2022)
EP | AR 35 | Hexesy Shadowblade - Stamina Nightblade
EP | AR 50 | Hexesy - Magicka Warden (31-01-2021)
EP | AR 49 | Hexyra - Magicka Warden (07-03-2021)
EP | AR 34 | Hexesy Czyterski - Magicka Necromancer
2.5k+ Champion Points
Earned over 640.000.000 Alliance Points!
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Tan9oSuccka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭That didn’t stop a Christmas blue zerg in my campaign.
Oh well, most are out of region laggers so probably wasn’t Christmas for them.0 -
StormChaser3000✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well, at least the remained time in dead campaign can be used for advancing towards Master Angler title.
Nightblades, you didn't hear that! xD
And then Vivec awaits.Edited by StormChaser3000 on December 26, 2018 8:08PM0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭While the population seemed to have declined shortly after Murkmire's release, right now is hardly the to judge population as it is down in every game due to the holidays.0
