yodased wrote: »

Irylia wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

All the players would need to be connected for it to work. How are you going to update people in greenshade that the gratwood keep is being attacked.

Cyrodiil is possible because its one connected landmass. When you are in a delve in pvp you are not being tracked by pvp metrics

I can still see which keeps are burst while in ic.

But I can’t communicate with those in cyro.

What’s the difference between zones and ic/cyro

Cyrodiil open world pushes announcements to all players flagged for that campaign no matter what, even in PvE you get certain notifications.

You can't communicate directly with cyrodiil from IC is because IC is a subzone of Cyrodiil. Just like when you are in a delve.

I'm not explaining this correctly, so what happens when you zone into cyro you are entered into a shard of a large zone that is populated by all players logged in. All activity within that zone are reported to every player constantly. When a balista hits the wall at dragonclaw, someone in the AD scroll gate will be updated with that information. When a flag is flipping in Vlast, the people sieging dragonclaw will be updated of that process as well.

What this suggestion would require is connected multiple zones into one large zone. So just like when you are in IC as a subzone, people in cyro are not updated, the people in greenshade would not be updated on whats happening within gratwood.

So what would have to happen is you could separate each overland zone into a pvp instance which is connected to anyone who is queued into that zone, but if you wanted greenshade and gratwood to share information like keeps being attacked, you would have to have them both in the same zone.

Also, what would you do about the hundreds of NPC and guards and mobs in these zones? Are they simply not there? Even if there is no bounty because there is no stealing in pvp, hitting a guard will trigger a non winnable fight.

It's just too complicated of an idea to be shoehorned into this system

Irylia wrote: »

What if instead of cyrodiil we fought in a q’d instance of the overland zones.

To enter cyro you queue and you would do the same to enter a pvp overland zone.

Alliance zones:—————
Ad: reapers March, grahtwood, greenshade, malabol tor, auridon, kenarthis roost. (Home gate - Kenarthi (Where you initially enter upon q'ing pvp))

Ep: stonefalls, eastmarch, rift, Deshaan, shadowfen, bleakrock (Home gate - Bleakrock)

Dc: stormhaven, Alikr, glenumbra, rivenspire, bangkorai, Betnikh (Home gate - betnikh)

Objectives:—————
Towns: have 3 flags each. Once you capture all of the flags the town turns your color. Once you own 3 towns in a zone you can attack and attempt to control a major city.

Major city: 1 per zone and can only be captured while owning 3 surrounding towns. These cities have defensible walls and more fortification, alleys, streets and are larger in scale. Must capture 2 flags to own the city.

Capturing a zone:——————
Each overland zone has 3 towns with flags that need to be captured before you can lay siege to the main city of each zone. I.e. Rawl kha, Mornhould, Wayrest.
Once you control the major city the overland zone turns your alliances color and gives more scoring.

Note: Communication between guilds and pugs would be key. Solo/small-mid and pug groups could play a role in defending a town while a larger guild moves on to the city.

Scoring:—————
Town - 1 point
Major city - 3 points
Enemy Zone - 5 points
Scrolls - 3 points + stat buff
Betnikh/Kenarthi/bleakrock house a factions scroll and can be attacked when 3 overland zones are no longer in the defenders control.

Traveling:——————

1. You can use zone stones (keep recall) to port to any of your alliance owned areas town/major city provided it isn’t under attack.
2. Mount travel to a zones border where you can then enter the next zone via a load screen stormhaven to bangkorai etc.
islands are connected to the closest zone via a “boat port”
Auridon to greenshade.
3. DC can port to Eastmarch + The Rift and wage war on EP and Auridon + Greenshade to wage war on AD
4. AD port to Alikr + Glenumbra to fight DC and Shadowfen + Deshaan to face EP.
5. EP ports to Reapers March + Grahtwood to reach AD and Bangkorai + stormhaven to assault DC

Note: Players (example ad) can still mount travel from shadowfen > deshaan > stonefalls > The rift to fight DC and EP or shake up their assault with a diversion far behind enemy lines while their faction hits shadowfen (example)

What to remove:—————
1. To assist in performance the mobs, dungeon entrances and wandering npc's would be removed.
2. Siege can only be placed in and around the immediate vicinity of a major city.


Why pvp in overland zones?

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1. The terrain is consistently fresh and allows for unique fights all across tamriel from the frigid cold eastmarch hills to alikr's scorching desert.
2. By using the zones we split up the pvp playerbase into potentially 18 different zones with a load time between zones causing less server stress
3. Players are encouraged to spread out because to capture a major city they need to control 3 towns which will be strewn across a zone sometimes requiring you to run around a mountain ridge which means some players will have to stay behind to defend the town while the main force marches onto the city for a zone capture. This in turn will reduce the ball mentality and reduce lag.

Extra:

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1. Roads give a 15% speed boost to those mounted
2. Guilds can claim a major city/town
3. Guilds can claim an overland zone if they accomplish the zone "achievement" Killing x (10,000) enemy players in the zone.

Of course this isn't completely fleshed out and is up for remodeling/ideas but pvp in the overland locations would not only drastically reduce lag and spread players out but enrich our gameplay and allow us to enjoy the beautiful terrain in each zone without a vast area going to waste like in cyrodiil.

I can update this with other ideas/fixes if they get enough interest in the comments.