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Youtube Builds - Can We Stop Please?

  • Lab3360
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    Without Alcast and these content providers I believe most of these so called elite dps would be utter garbage.

    Most of them could not form a build if their very life depended on it. But quick to tell someone else Hey youre build is trash because its not on youtube.
  • ATomiX96
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    Tasear wrote: »
    If I have to hear "Why arnt you wearing Ebon and Alkosh" One more time. Im gonna, IM GONNA ... probably do nothing, cause I really couldnt care less.

    That is a different issue. Why is DPS burn the most important way to play? What happened to tactics or rewarding points for doing something different?

    #pinballMachice

    Why bother doing mechanics if you can just skip them, rotations are so simple and way easier to learn than the actual mechanics, thanks to powercreep.
    If you arent completely mechanically handicapped you can pull more than enough dps, even in sub optimal setups, to burn through most mechanics nowadays.
  • Lab3360
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    All of them were dead and guess who was standing? - a trial tank

    Good job bro! The solution to your problem is making build videos in youtube. if you can't beat it join it.

    Dont forget, my build was garbage so ocourse I could not pick them up either.

    ;) back at you
  • Tasear
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    Lab3360 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    In this game you have weaving, animation cancelling, and a few other factors. They in themselves are significant problems that allow people to feel like they're some great player.

    Strip that out and you just have the abilities and positioning. It's been a problem for a long time but it's allowed people who can get good at memorizing particular click patterns to feel like they actually have any real skill and it's become a stickler not in terms of skill or understanding the right ability for the right time (granted there's so few abilities in this game it's laughable and many don't even get used anymore so that's a problem in itself) but simply doing what everyone else does and trying to memorize it. Zenimax should have learned their combat system and fixed it so weaving and animation cancelling wasn't a thing because it was never intended to be originally by their own admission.

    We also get to DPS burn like OP said and we get to a point where we stop using mechanics and such and just expect to walk through them and (maybe it wasn't OP that said that) as a result people get angry or upset or pissy if they have to do mechanics which most of them HAVE NO IDEA how to do.

    People don't even remember what the white flames in Elden Hollow II do anymore.

    I swear I am losing track of this conversation, but that is a good point. Maybe part of issue is mechics can be skipped? Thud then limiting most effective options?

    Its Cheese Trial Groups causing this whole Healer Tank wear sets to buff us.

    No! Buff youreself.

    Oh...
  • Checkmath
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    Lab3360 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Why do people rip on Alcast so much lately? Rip on players who get incorrectly elitist but Alcast has helped a lot of people start out and put a lot of time into it. You want to be the voice of diversity? Put out your own *** build page. He doesn’t claim to do anything but release OVERALL builds that will function the best the can over any dungeon or trial. He never says it’s the only way nor does he say it’s the absolute best in any given situation. Sheesh.

    Alcast getting bad rap because we all know his name. He has my sympathies.

    But yeah there's a lot of talk here that is this point it hard to say direction of this thread.

    So let's sum it up alcast isn't the bad guy. It's other people using poor guy out of context. He activity encourages players and helps them.

    Op just wanted to be just judged by not color of his build but the skill of his character.

    The conversation went astray into elistism, competitist and mechs.


    The direction of thread is
    A) we need more effects options
    B.) We need different ways to judge effectiveness
    C) How do we decide when a build is a burden to a team?


    @Checkmath I would double check original post. Op is simply ranting about be excluded from content and how it's not fair.

    As a class rep the note you might want to make is status of ice staff tanking and perception of community..

    Also @Alcast OP didn't mean any harm or so I think.

    Alcast has good builds.

    My point was the last thing he said

    There is more than one way.

    What Alcast mostly meant with his last sentence is, that builds vary from situation to situation. That is why the elite group change setups between boss fights. There is no BIS build for everything, but there is BIS for a certain situation. Sure it is not the only way, there are multiple options. But some options generally perform worse than others (just mathematics).
    All of them were dead and guess who was standing? - a trial tank

    Good job bro! The solution to your problem is making build videos in youtube. if you can't beat it join it.

    Maybe all died because he did not wear the ebony set :trollface:
    Edited by Checkmath on December 20, 2018 9:50AM
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  • LukosCreyden
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    Yet another fascinating thread. Why are these arguments even happening?

    If you are unsure or lacking in time, take a build from a trusted source and go from there. All there is to it, really.

    I get that people like to vent their frustrations, but complaining about that one salty person who didn't like your build isn't going to do anything. Just move on and find another group to run with.
    Struggling to find a new class to call home.Please send help.
  • Tasear
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    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    If I have to hear "Why arnt you wearing Ebon and Alkosh" One more time. Im gonna, IM GONNA ... probably do nothing, cause I really couldnt care less.

    That is a different issue. Why is DPS burn the most important way to play? What happened to tactics or rewarding points for doing something different?

    #pinballMachice

    Why bother doing mechanics if you can just skip them, rotations are so simple and way easier to learn than the actual mechanics, thanks to powercreep.
    If you arent completely mechanically handicapped you can pull more than enough dps, even in sub optimal setups, to burn through most mechanics nowadays.

    That's what I said just differently. We need to bring back mechics..but how?
  • Lab3360
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    Checkmath wrote: »
    Lab3360 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Vapirko wrote: »
    Why do people rip on Alcast so much lately? Rip on players who get incorrectly elitist but Alcast has helped a lot of people start out and put a lot of time into it. You want to be the voice of diversity? Put out your own *** build page. He doesn’t claim to do anything but release OVERALL builds that will function the best the can over any dungeon or trial. He never says it’s the only way nor does he say it’s the absolute best in any given situation. Sheesh.

    Alcast getting bad rap because we all know his name. He has my sympathies.

    But yeah there's a lot of talk here that is this point it hard to say direction of this thread.

    So let's sum it up alcast isn't the bad guy. It's other people using poor guy out of context. He activity encourages players and helps them.

    Op just wanted to be just judged by not color of his build but the skill of his character.

    The conversation went astray into elistism, competitist and mechs.


    The direction of thread is
    A) we need more effects options
    B.) We need different ways to judge effectiveness
    C) How do we decide when a build is a burden to a team?


    @Checkmath I would double check original post. Op is simply ranting about be excluded from content and how it's not fair.

    As a class rep the note you might want to make is status of ice staff tanking and perception of community..

    Also @Alcast OP didn't mean any harm or so I think.

    Alcast has good builds.

    My point was the last thing he said

    There is more than one way.

    What Alcast mostly meant with his last sentence is, that builds vary from situation to situation. That is why the elite group change setups between boss fights. There is no BIS build for everything, but there is BIS for a certain situation. Sure it is not the only way, there are multiple options. But some options generally perform worse than others (just mathematics).
    All of them were dead and guess who was standing? - a trial tank

    Good job bro! The solution to your problem is making build videos in youtube. if you can't beat it join it.

    Maybe all died because he did not wear the ebony set :trollface:

    Lol, or maybe they didnt handle the bottom room clearing ceystals and had 17 adds come up top :wink:
  • Gnozo
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    I think OP is just butthurt cause no Progression trial Guild will use him as main tank cause of his Frost tank build wich offers nothing to the group.

    Guess what op, there are better builds out there and sure there are more ways but only one way is the best one. Get used to it or search for another game.
  • Lab3360
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    Yet another fascinating thread. Why are these arguments even happening?

    If you are unsure or lacking in time, take a build from a trusted source and go from there. All there is to it, really.

    I get that people like to vent their frustrations, but complaining about that one salty person who didn't like your build isn't going to do anything. Just move on and find another group to run with.

    I did. But its not that simple when its happening to a lot of other people.
  • Lab3360
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    Gnozo wrote: »
    I think OP is just butthurt cause no Progression trial Guild will use him as main tank cause of his Frost tank build wich offers nothing to the group.

    Guess what op, there are better builds out there and sure there are more ways but only one way is the best one. Get used to it or search for another game.

    I think maybe you cant read or you didnt even take the time to read the thread.

    Also, I dont have to do anything. I pay for the game, and you or no one else are going to tell me how to play.

    Take youre own advice. If you dont like it, you go find another game.
    Edited by Lab3360 on December 20, 2018 9:58AM
  • Gnozo
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    Lab3360 wrote: »
    Gnozo wrote: »
    I think OP is just butthurt cause no Progression trial Guild will use him as main tank cause of his Frost tank build wich offers nothing to the group.

    Guess what op, there are better builds out there and sure there are more ways but only one way is the best one. Get used to it or search for another game.

    I think maybe you cant read or you didnt even take the time to read the thread.

    Also, I dont have to do anything. I pay for the game, and you or no one else are going to tell me how to play.

    If you dont like it, you go find another game.

    Same goes for other players. They are not forced to take you as tank in trial.

    Also you are telling ppl to not use "youtube" builds and think of builds themself and in the same thread you claim that you can do whatever you like. #puglogic
  • Nyladreas
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    Well I'm gunna ask a question here...

    Why do people with unique builds think they're demigods in this game who only act superior and can't be bothered to help?

    I like to explore different possibilities and while I do my own research, I ask people who don't follow mainstream builds what they're using and why and what I could do better.

    But more often than not I meet with an excessively aggressive and narcissistic approach from these players, refusing to give out any details and/or advice on their builds, often resorting to mocking or even bullying if "pushed" by questions. Or worse... They try to lie about their setups and tell you they use a YouTube build (even if you obviously know better) just to make you go away. Why is this?

    Don't be surprised that there's ever-growing hate to be had in the community if this is the way we communicate with each other after asking for help.

    Edited by Nyladreas on December 20, 2018 10:09AM
  • Checkmath
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    Lab3360 wrote: »
    Gnozo wrote: »
    I think OP is just butthurt cause no Progression trial Guild will use him as main tank cause of his Frost tank build wich offers nothing to the group.

    Guess what op, there are better builds out there and sure there are more ways but only one way is the best one. Get used to it or search for another game.

    I think maybe you cant read or you didnt even take the time to read the thread.

    Also, I dont have to do anything. I pay for the game, and you or no one else are going to tell me how to play.

    Take youre own advice. If you dont like it, you go find another game.

    I think there lies your problem. You dont want to wear the meta tank sets and dont want to provide buffs/debuffs, because other people tell you to do so. But in a serious trial guild, a group can expect you to do stuff, and if you dont, then they dont see you fitting the position. Same as in real life, if you dont to what your boss tells you, then he has every right to fire you.

    As said before, decide for yourself what path you want to go and if you choose some serious trial running, then you probably need to adapt and listen to the raid leader, because he is your "boss" in that situation. Surely you can discuss stuff with him (in that part your previous raid lead failed to understand you), but in the end you need to fit the groups expectations. If you dont want to, then dont play vet trials.
  • Lab3360
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    You can all come a attack me persoanlly all you want. The more, the better. I love it. Lol.

    The fact of the matter is, theyre more people out their who are tired of being told they have to run a Youtube Build and If you are a healer or tank, you have to wear a set to help cheese dps numbers

    More and more people are speaking up on this issue sooner than later it will be addressed. People are growing tired cheese.
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Well I'm gunna ask a question here...

    Why do people with unique builds think they're demigods in this game who only act superior and can't be bothered to help?

    I like to explore different possibilities and while I do my own research, I ask people who don't follow mainstream builds what they're using and why and what I could do better.

    But more often than not I meet with an excessively aggressive and narcissistic approach from these players, refusing to give out any details and/or advice, often resorting to mocking or even bullying if "pushed" by questions. Why is this?

    Don't be surprised that there's ever-growing hate to be had in the community if this is the way we communicate with each other.

    Oh. Thats bs. I dont think that at all. But you cant be humble to people who want to berrate you.

    I dont use bis. Dont want to. The hate come from Youtube Build Users.

    I would much rather enjoy ea hithers. Company which i often do because I dont play with people like that guild leader.
    Edited by Lab3360 on December 20, 2018 10:08AM
  • MartiniDaniels
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    You all missing key point of all this - this thread won't happen if ice staff was not so inferior to s&b. When devs introduced ice staff it inspired some people for ice tanking and ice builds.. and when they created and honed those builds, they find that this builds are "garbage".
    There were dozens of threads with simple solutions to this like additional morph to ele or changes to inner rage - but devs don't even discuss it. Pierce armor is so powerful skill so any tank without it is much weaker by default.
  • Lab3360
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    Lab3360 wrote: »
    You can all come a attack me persoanlly all you want. The more, the better. I love it. Lol.

    The fact of the matter is, theyre more people out their who are tired of being told they have to run a Youtube Build and If you are a healer or tank, you have to wear a set to help cheese dps numbers

    More and more people are speaking up on this issue sooner than later it will be addressed. People are growing tired cheese.
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Well I'm gunna ask a question here...

    Why do people with unique builds think they're demigods in this game who only act superior and can't be bothered to help?

    I like to explore different possibilities and while I do my own research, I ask people who don't follow mainstream builds what they're using and why and what I could do better.

    But more often than not I meet with an excessively aggressive and narcissistic approach from these players, refusing to give out any details and/or advice, often resorting to mocking or even bullying if "pushed" by questions. Why is this?

    Don't be surprised that there's ever-growing hate to be had in the community if this is the way we communicate with each other.

    Oh. Thats bs. I dont think that at all. But you cant be humble to people who want to berrate you.

    I dont use bis. Dont want to. The hate come from Youtube Build Users.

    I would much rather enjoy ea hithers. Company which i often do because I dont play with people like that guild leader.

    Furthermore, they are probably aggressive because they have been bullied and humiliated by youtube build users who behave like narcissists.
    Edited by Lab3360 on December 20, 2018 10:12AM
  • DivineFirstYOLO
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    Lab3360 wrote: »

    Could Replace a set with NMG. Problem Solved thats easy.

    Major Breach, Ele Drain

    When you say buff the group, you really want to say "buff dps"

    That right there really fires me up. Like the game is wrapped around dps. If dps want more burn, they should buff themselves. Dps dont get to determine what Tanks and Healer wear.

    Just because these so called competition groups have found ways to cheese a trial does not mean it the responsibility of the tank or healer to buff the group. This is nothing more than cheese.

    You dont see tanks and healers asking dps to taunt a boss, or mitigate damage or heal the group

    Theyre 2 other roles who are just as important.

    Imo these are not competition level groups. These are cheese trial groups with dps who sacrifice 2 other roles

    No thanks bro.

    LMAO, I want to see you clear any of the newer trial HMs with that attitude.

    Actually..nevermind.. you won't find a group that wants to play with you to begin with. #doyoueventeamplay
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  • Lab3360
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    You all missing key point of all this - this thread won't happen if ice staff was not so inferior to s&b. When devs introduced ice staff it inspired some people for ice tanking and ice builds.. and when they created and honed those builds, they find that this builds are "garbage".
    There were dozens of threads with simple solutions to this like additional morph to ele or changes to inner rage - but devs don't even discuss it. Pierce armor is so powerful skill so any tank without it is much weaker by default.

    I will agree the ice staff is less efficient. It is certainly not weaker. The block with and ice staff on a templar or sorc is more efficient due to class and staff passives.
    But, it does not provide major breach and fracture.
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    Lab3360 wrote: »
    This idea that only builds from youtube From Alcast and Asian are the only builds that can work in the game, is an assertion of idiocy.

    I cant believe how infected the community has become by this idea.
    There are sooo many different ways to reach the dps, healing and tanking in this game people.

    We really need to turn this around. I recently had some guy tell me in Cloudrest that my tank build was a trash build and I should off tank. I was on with a Sorc Magika Tank with frost staff. He mocked me while I was off mic as he said "I want to be different and not use a build from youtube" (voiced in sarcastic non masculine voice)

    I was flabbergasted by the sheer stupidity of this guild leader. I then mic'ed up and asked him, "why is this a trash build?"

    He responded, "how are you going to taunt when you get interrupted with staff HA?" I responded, "Um inner fire"

    He then asked, "when you run out of magika?" I said "I dont because my recover is at 1800 and I have tri pots and conversion"

    Then the last thing I said to him was this,

    "Youre an idiot who is incapable of thinking for yourself. You should listen to how stupid you sound when you say that a "Youtube Build" is the only way to get the job done. I feel sorry for youre guild because you hold them back.

    My builds are better than youtube.
    They all wiped from because theyre guild could not execute downstairs correctly.
    Adds everywhere. Guess whonwas still standing.

    I ended it with this, I could pick you up. But Inwont tank for an idiot.

    Then I left.

    Guys, Gals, if you are going to watch youtube, please study "The where" and "The Why" something works. Analyze the build in separate elements. The builds are for illustrative purposesonly.
    Not one Youtube says this is the only way.

    I have seen a lot of builds from people who value theyre builds soo much, they refuse to put the build on youtube. Its okay to think for yourself. Its okay to design youre own build as long as it is effective .

    its because you get lambasted, i put up a healer build on utube and really got lambasted at
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Well I'm gunna ask a question here...

    Why do people with unique builds think they're demigods in this game who only act superior and can't be bothered to help?

    I like to explore different possibilities and while I do my own research, I ask people who don't follow mainstream builds what they're using and why and what I could do better.

    But more often than not I meet with an excessively aggressive and narcissistic approach from these players, refusing to give out any details and/or advice on their builds, often resorting to mocking or even bullying if "pushed" by questions. Or worse... They try to lie about their setups and tell you they use a YouTube build (even if you obviously know better) just to make you go away. Why is this?

    Don't be surprised that there's ever-growing hate to be had in the community if this is the way we communicate with each other after asking for help.

    I think it goes both ways for groups. But honestly this gives me headache...how to you even balance all this. My prayers to divines to Dev team. There's no way everyone could ever be happy.
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    The fact of the matter is, theyre more people out their who are tired of being told they have to run a Youtube Build and If you are a healer or tank, you have to wear a set to help cheese dps numbers

    Imagine to believe that supporting your group is considered to be cheese....
  • Lab3360
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    Lab3360 wrote: »

    Could Replace a set with NMG. Problem Solved thats easy.

    Major Breach, Ele Drain

    When you say buff the group, you really want to say "buff dps"

    That right there really fires me up. Like the game is wrapped around dps. If dps want more burn, they should buff themselves. Dps dont get to determine what Tanks and Healer wear.

    Just because these so called competition groups have found ways to cheese a trial does not mean it the responsibility of the tank or healer to buff the group. This is nothing more than cheese.

    You dont see tanks and healers asking dps to taunt a boss, or mitigate damage or heal the group

    Theyre 2 other roles who are just as important.

    Imo these are not competition level groups. These are cheese trial groups with dps who sacrifice 2 other roles

    No thanks bro.

    LMAO, I want to see you clear any of the newer trial HMs with that attitude.

    Actually..nevermind.. you won't find a group that wants to play with you to begin with. #doyoueventeamplay

    Lol. Jokes on you because I have.
    Again, more ignorance just because you cant do it or have not seen it on youtube.

    Like I said. There are more people out there who are tired of people like you.
  • Gnozo
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    Lab3360 wrote: »
    You can all come a attack me persoanlly all you want. The more, the better. I love it. Lol.

    The fact of the matter is, theyre more people out their who are tired of being told they have to run a Youtube Build and If you are a healer or tank, you have to wear a set to help cheese dps numbers

    More and more people are speaking up on this issue sooner than later it will be addressed. People are growing tired cheese.
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Well I'm gunna ask a question here...

    Why do people with unique builds think they're demigods in this game who only act superior and can't be bothered to help?

    I like to explore different possibilities and while I do my own research, I ask people who don't follow mainstream builds what they're using and why and what I could do better.

    But more often than not I meet with an excessively aggressive and narcissistic approach from these players, refusing to give out any details and/or advice, often resorting to mocking or even bullying if "pushed" by questions. Why is this?

    Don't be surprised that there's ever-growing hate to be had in the community if this is the way we communicate with each other.

    Oh. Thats bs. I dont think that at all. But you cant be humble to people who want to berrate you.

    I dont use bis. Dont want to. The hate come from Youtube Build Users.

    I would much rather enjoy ea hithers. Company which i often do because I dont play with people like that guild leader.

    Zenimax is giving us sets to get the most out of every whole. @Checkmath already told you enough about how Trials Guilds operate in a competetive pve enviorment. Its not cheesing trials or anything, zenimax gives us this to use it. Even advertising "youtube" builds in their news articles from time to time or devs using these sets in eso live Streams cause thats how its supposed to be played on a competetive level. But sure, you say it cheesing a trial so it must be true.

    If you dont want to follow Meta create your own non meta trial Guild and be the leader youself. Then you can tank with your Frost Build without anyone complaining.
  • Nyladreas
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    Lab3360 wrote: »
    You can all come a attack me persoanlly all you want. The more, the better. I love it. Lol.

    The fact of the matter is, theyre more people out their who are tired of being told they have to run a Youtube Build and If you are a healer or tank, you have to wear a set to help cheese dps numbers

    More and more people are speaking up on this issue sooner than later it will be addressed. People are growing tired cheese.
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Well I'm gunna ask a question here...

    Why do people with unique builds think they're demigods in this game who only act superior and can't be bothered to help?

    I like to explore different possibilities and while I do my own research, I ask people who don't follow mainstream builds what they're using and why and what I could do better.

    But more often than not I meet with an excessively aggressive and narcissistic approach from these players, refusing to give out any details and/or advice, often resorting to mocking or even bullying if "pushed" by questions. Why is this?

    Don't be surprised that there's ever-growing hate to be had in the community if this is the way we communicate with each other.

    Oh. Thats bs. I dont think that at all. But you cant be humble to people who want to berrate you.

    I dont use bis. Dont want to. The hate come from Youtube Build Users.

    I would much rather enjoy ea hithers. Company which i often do because I dont play with people like that guild leader.

    Yeah I'm not targeting you or anyone here. Just speaking in general. I've been trying to get a unique great working build for months. The freedom is why I like ESO. I just feel really bad when I get a response like "Gahahaha you bad. Go F urself scrub" after asking what the person has. /shrug
    Edited by Nyladreas on December 20, 2018 10:20AM
  • Lab3360
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    Lab3360 wrote: »
    This idea that only builds from youtube From Alcast and Asian are the only builds that can work in the game, is an assertion of idiocy.

    I cant believe how infected the community has become by this idea.
    There are sooo many different ways to reach the dps, healing and tanking in this game people.

    We really need to turn this around. I recently had some guy tell me in Cloudrest that my tank build was a trash build and I should off tank. I was on with a Sorc Magika Tank with frost staff. He mocked me while I was off mic as he said "I want to be different and not use a build from youtube" (voiced in sarcastic non masculine voice)

    I was flabbergasted by the sheer stupidity of this guild leader. I then mic'ed up and asked him, "why is this a trash build?"

    He responded, "how are you going to taunt when you get interrupted with staff HA?" I responded, "Um inner fire"

    He then asked, "when you run out of magika?" I said "I dont because my recover is at 1800 and I have tri pots and conversion"

    Then the last thing I said to him was this,

    "Youre an idiot who is incapable of thinking for yourself. You should listen to how stupid you sound when you say that a "Youtube Build" is the only way to get the job done. I feel sorry for youre guild because you hold them back.

    My builds are better than youtube.
    They all wiped from because theyre guild could not execute downstairs correctly.
    Adds everywhere. Guess whonwas still standing.

    I ended it with this, I could pick you up. But Inwont tank for an idiot.

    Then I left.

    Guys, Gals, if you are going to watch youtube, please study "The where" and "The Why" something works. Analyze the build in separate elements. The builds are for illustrative purposesonly.
    Not one Youtube says this is the only way.

    I have seen a lot of builds from people who value theyre builds soo much, they refuse to put the build on youtube. Its okay to think for yourself. Its okay to design youre own build as long as it is effective .

    its because you get lambasted, i put up a healer build on utube and really got lambasted at

    Sorry. I could not understand youre post
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    Lab3360 wrote: »
    Lab3360 wrote: »
    This idea that only builds from youtube From Alcast and Asian are the only builds that can work in the game, is an assertion of idiocy.

    I cant believe how infected the community has become by this idea.
    There are sooo many different ways to reach the dps, healing and tanking in this game people.

    We really need to turn this around. I recently had some guy tell me in Cloudrest that my tank build was a trash build and I should off tank. I was on with a Sorc Magika Tank with frost staff. He mocked me while I was off mic as he said "I want to be different and not use a build from youtube" (voiced in sarcastic non masculine voice)

    I was flabbergasted by the sheer stupidity of this guild leader. I then mic'ed up and asked him, "why is this a trash build?"

    He responded, "how are you going to taunt when you get interrupted with staff HA?" I responded, "Um inner fire"

    He then asked, "when you run out of magika?" I said "I dont because my recover is at 1800 and I have tri pots and conversion"

    Then the last thing I said to him was this,

    "Youre an idiot who is incapable of thinking for yourself. You should listen to how stupid you sound when you say that a "Youtube Build" is the only way to get the job done. I feel sorry for youre guild because you hold them back.

    My builds are better than youtube.
    They all wiped from because theyre guild could not execute downstairs correctly.
    Adds everywhere. Guess whonwas still standing.

    I ended it with this, I could pick you up. But Inwont tank for an idiot.

    Then I left.

    Guys, Gals, if you are going to watch youtube, please study "The where" and "The Why" something works. Analyze the build in separate elements. The builds are for illustrative purposesonly.
    Not one Youtube says this is the only way.

    I have seen a lot of builds from people who value theyre builds soo much, they refuse to put the build on youtube. Its okay to think for yourself. Its okay to design youre own build as long as it is effective .

    its because you get lambasted, i put up a healer build on utube and really got lambasted at

    Sorry. I could not understand youre post

    lambasted means go at in an unkind way called idiot etc
    Main character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike
  • Lab3360
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Lab3360 wrote: »
    You can all come a attack me persoanlly all you want. The more, the better. I love it. Lol.

    The fact of the matter is, theyre more people out their who are tired of being told they have to run a Youtube Build and If you are a healer or tank, you have to wear a set to help cheese dps numbers

    More and more people are speaking up on this issue sooner than later it will be addressed. People are growing tired cheese.
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Well I'm gunna ask a question here...

    Why do people with unique builds think they're demigods in this game who only act superior and can't be bothered to help?

    I like to explore different possibilities and while I do my own research, I ask people who don't follow mainstream builds what they're using and why and what I could do better.

    But more often than not I meet with an excessively aggressive and narcissistic approach from these players, refusing to give out any details and/or advice, often resorting to mocking or even bullying if "pushed" by questions. Why is this?

    Don't be surprised that there's ever-growing hate to be had in the community if this is the way we communicate with each other.

    Oh. Thats bs. I dont think that at all. But you cant be humble to people who want to berrate you.

    I dont use bis. Dont want to. The hate come from Youtube Build Users.

    I would much rather enjoy ea hithers. Company which i often do because I dont play with people like that guild leader.

    Yeah I'm not targeting you or anyone here. Just speaking in general. I've been trying to get a unique great working build for months. The freedom is why I like ESO. I just feel really bad when I get a response like "Gahahaha you bad. Go F urself scrub" after asking what the person has. /shrug

    Yeah. I understand. Just know yhey are sheep and scrubs without youtube likely.

    Youre build wont be nerfed like youtube builds are every patch. Plus you understand the hows and whys.

    Youre build will stand the test of time.
    Edited by Lab3360 on December 20, 2018 10:34AM
  • Lab3360
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    Lab3360 wrote: »
    Lab3360 wrote: »
    This idea that only builds from youtube From Alcast and Asian are the only builds that can work in the game, is an assertion of idiocy.

    I cant believe how infected the community has become by this idea.
    There are sooo many different ways to reach the dps, healing and tanking in this game people.

    We really need to turn this around. I recently had some guy tell me in Cloudrest that my tank build was a trash build and I should off tank. I was on with a Sorc Magika Tank with frost staff. He mocked me while I was off mic as he said "I want to be different and not use a build from youtube" (voiced in sarcastic non masculine voice)

    I was flabbergasted by the sheer stupidity of this guild leader. I then mic'ed up and asked him, "why is this a trash build?"

    He responded, "how are you going to taunt when you get interrupted with staff HA?" I responded, "Um inner fire"

    He then asked, "when you run out of magika?" I said "I dont because my recover is at 1800 and I have tri pots and conversion"

    Then the last thing I said to him was this,

    "Youre an idiot who is incapable of thinking for yourself. You should listen to how stupid you sound when you say that a "Youtube Build" is the only way to get the job done. I feel sorry for youre guild because you hold them back.

    My builds are better than youtube.
    They all wiped from because theyre guild could not execute downstairs correctly.
    Adds everywhere. Guess whonwas still standing.

    I ended it with this, I could pick you up. But Inwont tank for an idiot.

    Then I left.

    Guys, Gals, if you are going to watch youtube, please study "The where" and "The Why" something works. Analyze the build in separate elements. The builds are for illustrative purposesonly.
    Not one Youtube says this is the only way.

    I have seen a lot of builds from people who value theyre builds soo much, they refuse to put the build on youtube. Its okay to think for yourself. Its okay to design youre own build as long as it is effective .

    its because you get lambasted, i put up a healer build on utube and really got lambasted at

    Sorry. I could not understand youre post

    Ok
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