I don't particularly care about t bagging per se...

I was hoping for a guild that reduced toxic behavior among themselves.

- No cheating
- No exploited game mechanics
- In general being polite to each other and others
- Welcoming new players

Thats the "anti-toxic" guild I want to hear all about.

I’m going to create a guild that fights the toxic behavior of a guild of players who target toxic players.

The guild will quickly become more toxic than those they claim to be toxic.

Karmanorway wrote: »

supaskrub wrote: »

Only a child could think up something so dumb

If you have a better solution against ingame toxicity, pls tell me.. We both know Zos dont care, so reporting it is a waste of time

>implying that tbagging is inherently toxic
>implying that toxicity even needs a solution
>implying that your guild would be skilled enough to find me and kill me

A good name for this guild: The White Knights

Joshlenoir wrote: »

Imagine being so fragile you can't handle basic online trolls or function in a very forgiving PvP environment.
Do you need someone to show you how the ignore function works?

You know how ignorant and rude that sounds? That makes you sound like a jerk.

Edit: some people can’t handle that you know, and your post is making it worse

Karmanorway wrote: »

I want to make a PvP guild which Main purpose is to purify toxic behaviour in PvP.

Example: inexperienced pvper gets killed in cyro, and tbagged. He contacts the guild and puts a bounty on mr tbags head. We find him in cyro, kill him a few times with a tbag or 10, and tells him why we did so, when we are finished killing him.

Example 2: Pve player gets ganked in ic and tbagged, puts a bounty on mr tbags head, We go there and kill him a few times until we get the same amount TV back, with a few tbags ofc, and tell him why we did what we did.

Example3: pvp guy goes to BGs, gets killed from premades, then hes team tells him lots of BS about how bad he is, noob, he should go delete whatever. We get a contact on him and take him out a few times aswell telling him how bad he is(without tbags) and ofc, tell him after why we did so.

What do You think?

lol

I actually like this idea. Often times the best way to deal with a bully is to give them a dose of their own medicine. If I cared more about PvP I'd love to join a guild devoted to justice and karma like this.

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Any such guild would be doing nothing more than putting out witch hunts on people they don't personally know, or even have proof of said misdeeds.

Vigilantism is illegal in the real world for a reason, you'll just end up being a tool for trolls.

Yeah, I'm picturing some guild of griefers or an inividual griefer putting a price on some poor innocent's head. Behold, your single toxic player or guild now has a band of vilgilantes doing large-scale bullying for him/her. This is a horrible idea

Karmanorway wrote: »

supaskrub wrote: »

Only a child could think up something so dumb

If you have a better solution against ingame toxicity, pls tell me.. We both know Zos dont care, so reporting it is a waste of time

Block the toxics and move on, as for teabagging it will always be around in pvp, I don’t do it personally cos I’m old enough to shave and I don’t give a flying *** about having it done to me.

Let’s look at your examples 1 and 2... “Inexperienced player gets killed” lol, wtf do you expect to happen to inexperienced players?.. shall we ask they are given god mode?. As for teabagging it’s here to stay, so inexperienced players just need to suck it up and see it for what it is (immaturity) and be thankful that it’s a minority that do it and not the majority.

I think the OP heart is in the right place, but his idea and implementation of what he wants is simply wrong and won't work. You can't force people to accept your idea no matter how noble it is. the road to hell is paved with the best of intentions.

The community itself has become a lot more toxic the last two years, then again the internet and the world in general has become a lot more adversarial...look no further than American and Western World politics to see it front and center.

Our ancestors were much kinder people than we are today. The internet, social media, smartphones, etc has made people very cold due to the increased frequency of non-face to face interaction...especially text messaging and the like. Did you know studies show people feel more isolated now than they ever have despite all the ease of communication in technology? Did you also know studies showed those who stopped using Facebook/Social Media saw drastic improvements in their depression.

Its becoming harder and harder for our younger generation to have empathy for someone they are typing to on a keyboard. They are not given the same treatment of dignity they would give to a close friend. In reverse our ancestors treated everyone with that same dignity. My grandparents would invite drifters and hitchhikers into their farm home and feed house the guy for a few days because it was the "being a good person" thing to do...good luck find anyone who would do that today.

You can see in this thread that society is losing is empathy for others, the more time you spend on a computer, the less your interactions are in-person, and some of those mannerisms and how you treat people online or via communications methods creeps into the IRL interactions you have thus why modern society has become so cold as of the last 15 years or so.

All of us need to do a better job of being kinder to people, even online. I will include myself in that statement as well.

Again, everyone has to be their own person. Just because someone ganks you in IC for playing the game doesn't give you the right to stalk them and hunt them down with a group of people. thats trying to force ideals on people and that simply doesn't work.

If you want things to change, you have to motivate people to your ideas. You do that by setting good standards, following those standards, and leading by example. When people see you doing good things online for others, such as sending the guy who ganked you a gift, like some potions or something, your making it clear thats its ok that person is just playing the game, and even though he killed you in-game, you want to be friends.

at the end of the day, we can't forget this is just a video game for enjoyment. We should strive to ensure even the people we gank in pvp, steal a resource node from, etc is also able to enjoy the game to. Befriend as many people as possible and always have a mentality of wanting to help, and things will most certainly always turn out great for everyone.

hope everyone has a good weekend!

Take care

Rinaldo

*scratches head*

So let me see if I got this right. Instead of one player behaving badly, you'd end up with an entire guild behaving badly.

You know all that will happen is your bully victim is now going to go get his guild buddies to go after your guild, right?

Or is that your point? To start a war. Hmm.

Karmanorway wrote: »

I want to get my friends back in the game, Friends that found it especially offensive getting tbagged due to RL stuff similar to this.

Your friends got tbagged in real life? And you want to tbag other players to avenge them? O_o